Re: Herring got centenarian (Dutch longevity)

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Yes, it's true, the herring is fresh and tasty, and sold on many street corners like hot dog stands in New York. (Usually served with onions and pickles) If you were wondering,I happen to be an expat now living in Holland, and was also puzzled about how the natives live to be so old, and look so much younger compared their American or Canadian cousins of the same age, (sun damage skin aside).. Here's some of my observations on living & working with the Dutch (roughly over age 35, see note below):: 1) Generally speaking of course; They are VERY frugal (not only with money), but on thier breakfast & lunch, by that I mean: *Breakfast: yogurt,muesli, and maybe coffee (that's it) *Lunch: 2 slices of bread, 1 slice of cheese, (sometimes 2 sandwiches) snacks: apple, banana, or orange * snacking is usually a rarity with dutch over 50.

* Dinner: Potatoes, some form of boiled veges, meat * Dessert- (if any) 1 and only 1 small cookie I was told by a friend (40's) that these modest eating habits come back from WW2 when food supplies was somewhat limited, and only potatoes and other vegetables easily available. ***** Dutch < 35: The diet habits are changing fast! Now, mostly all becoming fat! This is no surprise since the work cafeterias I've encountered are ONLY FRIED FOODS, a small selection of fruit, and of course bread & cheese. They seem very lazy and do not know how to cook, (other than deep fat- frying everything), nor do they care about the flavor of food that they scarf down in a matter of minutes. I should also note that they smoke like hell, and the demographics are currently changing rapidly to a more middle eastern descent. They don't work as much as Americans or Canadians = less stress..

(but the work weeks are increasing) They don't stress out easily but have difficult, egocentric personalities, and are VERY independant into old age. However, I don't expect to see the number of centenarians increasing in this country (without intervention). best regards, D.H. Al Pater <old542000@...> wrote: Hi All, See: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9127135/ reporting that: World's oldest person dies aged 115 Dutch woman swore by a daily helping of herring for a healthy life Al Pater, PhD; email: old542000@... __________________________________

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Yes, it's true, the herring is fresh and tasty, and sold on many street corners like hot dog stands in New York. (Usually served with onions and pickles) If you were wondering,I happen to be an expat now living in Holland, and was also puzzled about how the natives live to be so old, and look so much younger compared their American or Canadian cousins of the same age, (sun damage skin aside).. Here's some of my observations on living & working with the Dutch (roughly over age 35, see note below):: 1) Generally speaking of course; They are VERY frugal (not only with money), but on thier breakfast & lunch, by that I mean: *Breakfast: yogurt,muesli, and maybe coffee (that's it) *Lunch: 2 slices of bread, 1 slice of cheese, (sometimes 2 sandwiches) snacks: apple, banana, or orange * snacking is usually a rarity with dutch over 50.

* Dinner: Potatoes, some form of boiled veges, meat * Dessert- (if any) 1 and only 1 small cookie I was told by a friend (40's) that these modest eating habits come back from WW2 when food supplies was somewhat limited, and only potatoes and other vegetables easily available. ***** Dutch < 35: The diet habits are changing fast! Now, mostly all becoming fat! This is no surprise since the work cafeterias I've encountered are ONLY FRIED FOODS, a small selection of fruit, and of course bread & cheese. They seem very lazy and do not know how to cook, (other than deep fat- frying everything), nor do they care about the flavor of food that they scarf down in a matter of minutes. I should also note that they smoke like hell, and the demographics are currently changing rapidly to a more middle eastern descent. They don't work as much as Americans or Canadians = less stress..

(but the work weeks are increasing) They don't stress out easily but have difficult, egocentric personalities, and are VERY independant into old age. However, I don't expect to see the number of centenarians increasing in this country (without intervention). best regards, D.H. Al Pater <old542000@...> wrote: Hi All, See: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9127135/ reporting that: World's oldest person dies aged 115 Dutch woman swore by a daily helping of herring for a healthy life Al Pater, PhD; email: old542000@... __________________________________

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Thanks, DH,

Notice though that even with supposedly 69,000 centis in the U.S. (2000), we don't hear about their deaths very often - just the oldest. I conclude the number must be getting so large that it's no longer newsworthy.

When the herring is sold "fresh" is it highly salted?

Regards.

Re: [ ] Herring got centenarian (Dutch longevity)

Yes, it's true, the herring is fresh and tasty, and sold on many street corners like hot dog stands in New York. (Usually served with onions and pickles)If you were wondering,I happen to be an expat now living in Holland, and was also puzzled about how the natives live to be so old, and look so much younger compared their American or Canadian cousins of the same age, (sun damage skin aside).. Here's some of my observations on living & working with the Dutch (roughly over age 35, see note below):: 1) Generally speaking of course; They are VERY frugal (not only with money), but on thier breakfast & lunch, by that I mean: *Breakfast: yogurt,muesli, and maybe coffee (that's it) *Lunch: 2 slices of bread, 1 slice of cheese, (sometimes 2 sandwiches) snacks: apple, banana, or orange * snacking is usually a rarity with dutch over 50. * Dinner: Potatoes, some form of boiled veges, meat * Dessert- (if any) 1 and only 1 small cookieI was told by a friend (40's) that these modest eating habits come back from WW2 when food supplies was somewhat limited, and only potatoes and other vegetables easily available. ***** Dutch < 35: The diet habits are changing fast! Now, mostly all becoming fat! This is no surprise since the work cafeterias I've encountered are ONLY FRIED FOODS, a small selection of fruit, and of course bread & cheese.They seem very lazy and do not know how to cook, (other than deep fat- frying everything), nor do they care about the flavor of food that they scarf down in a matter of minutes. I should also note that they smoke like hell, and the demographics are currently changing rapidly to a more middle eastern descent.They don't work as much as Americans or Canadians = less stress.. (but the work weeks are increasing) They don't stress out easily but have difficult, egocentric personalities, and are VERY independant into old age. However, I don't expect to see the number of centenarians increasing in this country (without intervention).best regards,D.H.Al Pater <old542000@...> wrote:

Hi All,See:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9127135/reporting that:World's oldest person dies aged 115Dutch woman swore by a daily helping of herring for a healthy lifeAl Pater, PhD; email: old542000@...

[Guest guest]

Thanks, DH,

Notice though that even with supposedly 69,000 centis in the U.S. (2000), we don't hear about their deaths very often - just the oldest. I conclude the number must be getting so large that it's no longer newsworthy.

When the herring is sold "fresh" is it highly salted?

Regards.

Re: [ ] Herring got centenarian (Dutch longevity)

Yes, it's true, the herring is fresh and tasty, and sold on many street corners like hot dog stands in New York. (Usually served with onions and pickles)If you were wondering,I happen to be an expat now living in Holland, and was also puzzled about how the natives live to be so old, and look so much younger compared their American or Canadian cousins of the same age, (sun damage skin aside).. Here's some of my observations on living & working with the Dutch (roughly over age 35, see note below):: 1) Generally speaking of course; They are VERY frugal (not only with money), but on thier breakfast & lunch, by that I mean: *Breakfast: yogurt,muesli, and maybe coffee (that's it) *Lunch: 2 slices of bread, 1 slice of cheese, (sometimes 2 sandwiches) snacks: apple, banana, or orange * snacking is usually a rarity with dutch over 50. * Dinner: Potatoes, some form of boiled veges, meat * Dessert- (if any) 1 and only 1 small cookieI was told by a friend (40's) that these modest eating habits come back from WW2 when food supplies was somewhat limited, and only potatoes and other vegetables easily available. ***** Dutch < 35: The diet habits are changing fast! Now, mostly all becoming fat! This is no surprise since the work cafeterias I've encountered are ONLY FRIED FOODS, a small selection of fruit, and of course bread & cheese.They seem very lazy and do not know how to cook, (other than deep fat- frying everything), nor do they care about the flavor of food that they scarf down in a matter of minutes. I should also note that they smoke like hell, and the demographics are currently changing rapidly to a more middle eastern descent.They don't work as much as Americans or Canadians = less stress.. (but the work weeks are increasing) They don't stress out easily but have difficult, egocentric personalities, and are VERY independant into old age. However, I don't expect to see the number of centenarians increasing in this country (without intervention).best regards,D.H.Al Pater <old542000@...> wrote:

Hi All,See:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9127135/reporting that:World's oldest person dies aged 115Dutch woman swore by a daily helping of herring for a healthy lifeAl Pater, PhD; email: old542000@...

[Guest guest]

yes jwwright -I didn't realize that I think it *is*

in fact salted (in liquid)after being cleaned and

de-headed.It's traditionally being eated 'polar bear'

style. They grab it by the tail, tilt their head back,

& dangle over their mouth and drop it in. - or can be

served in slices on a paper plate with a toothpick (as

the fork), or in a sort of hot dog bun. Labeled 'niewe

haring' which is New Herring within days/hours from

the sea.. You can get new, young, old, pickled, and

frozen..

probably more info then you wanted, but.

best regards,

more on their eating

--- jwwright <jwwright@...> wrote:

> Thanks, DH,

> Notice though that even with supposedly 69,000

> centis in the U.S. (2000), we don't hear about their

> deaths very often - just the oldest. I conclude the

> number must be getting so large that it's no longer

> newsworthy.

>

> When the herring is sold " fresh " is it highly

> salted?

>

> Regards.

>

> Re: [ ] Herring got

> centenarian (Dutch longevity)

>

>

> Yes, it's true, the herring is fresh and tasty,

> and sold on many street corners like hot dog stands

> in New York. (Usually served with onions and

> pickles)

> If you were wondering,I happen to be an expat now

> living in Holland, and was also puzzled about how

> the natives live to be so old, and look so much

> younger compared their American or Canadian cousins

> of the same age, (sun damage skin aside)..

> Here's some of my observations on living &

> working with the Dutch (roughly over age 35, see

> note below)::

> 1) Generally speaking of course; They are VERY

> frugal (not only with money), but on thier breakfast

> & lunch, by that I mean:

> *Breakfast: yogurt,muesli, and maybe coffee

> (that's it)

> *Lunch: 2 slices of bread, 1 slice of cheese,

> (sometimes 2 sandwiches)

> snacks: apple, banana, or orange * snacking

> is usually a rarity with dutch over 50.

> * Dinner: Potatoes, some form of boiled

> veges, meat

> * Dessert- (if any) 1 and only 1 small cookie

> I was told by a friend (40's) that these modest

> eating habits come back from WW2 when food supplies

> was somewhat limited, and only potatoes and other

> vegetables easily available.

>

> ***** Dutch < 35: The diet habits are changing

> fast! Now, mostly all becoming fat! This is no

> surprise since the work cafeterias I've encountered

> are ONLY FRIED FOODS, a small selection of fruit,

> and of course bread & cheese.

> They seem very lazy and do not know how to cook,

> (other than deep fat- frying everything), nor do

> they care about the flavor of food that they scarf

> down in a matter of minutes.

> I should also note that they smoke like hell,

> and the demographics are currently changing rapidly

> to a more middle eastern descent.

> They don't work as much as Americans or Canadians

> = less stress.. (but the work weeks are increasing)

>

> They don't stress out easily but have difficult,

> egocentric personalities, and are VERY independant

> into old age. However, I don't expect to see the

> number of centenarians increasing in this country

> (without intervention).

>

> best regards,

> D.H.

>

>

>

>

> Al Pater <old542000@...> wrote:

> Hi All,

>

> See:

>

> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9127135/

>

> reporting that:

>

> World's oldest person dies aged 115

>

> Dutch woman swore by a daily helping of herring

> for a healthy life

>

> Al Pater, PhD; email: old542000@...

>

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[Guest guest]

yes jwwright -I didn't realize that I think it *is*

in fact salted (in liquid)after being cleaned and

de-headed.It's traditionally being eated 'polar bear'

style. They grab it by the tail, tilt their head back,

& dangle over their mouth and drop it in. - or can be

served in slices on a paper plate with a toothpick (as

the fork), or in a sort of hot dog bun. Labeled 'niewe

haring' which is New Herring within days/hours from

the sea.. You can get new, young, old, pickled, and

frozen..

probably more info then you wanted, but.

best regards,

more on their eating

--- jwwright <jwwright@...> wrote:

> Thanks, DH,

> Notice though that even with supposedly 69,000

> centis in the U.S. (2000), we don't hear about their

> deaths very often - just the oldest. I conclude the

> number must be getting so large that it's no longer

> newsworthy.

>

> When the herring is sold " fresh " is it highly

> salted?

>

> Regards.

>

> Re: [ ] Herring got

> centenarian (Dutch longevity)

>

>

> Yes, it's true, the herring is fresh and tasty,

> and sold on many street corners like hot dog stands

> in New York. (Usually served with onions and

> pickles)

> If you were wondering,I happen to be an expat now

> living in Holland, and was also puzzled about how

> the natives live to be so old, and look so much

> younger compared their American or Canadian cousins

> of the same age, (sun damage skin aside)..

> Here's some of my observations on living &

> working with the Dutch (roughly over age 35, see

> note below)::

> 1) Generally speaking of course; They are VERY

> frugal (not only with money), but on thier breakfast

> & lunch, by that I mean:

> *Breakfast: yogurt,muesli, and maybe coffee

> (that's it)

> *Lunch: 2 slices of bread, 1 slice of cheese,

> (sometimes 2 sandwiches)

> snacks: apple, banana, or orange * snacking

> is usually a rarity with dutch over 50.

> * Dinner: Potatoes, some form of boiled

> veges, meat

> * Dessert- (if any) 1 and only 1 small cookie

> I was told by a friend (40's) that these modest

> eating habits come back from WW2 when food supplies

> was somewhat limited, and only potatoes and other

> vegetables easily available.

>

> ***** Dutch < 35: The diet habits are changing

> fast! Now, mostly all becoming fat! This is no

> surprise since the work cafeterias I've encountered

> are ONLY FRIED FOODS, a small selection of fruit,

> and of course bread & cheese.

> They seem very lazy and do not know how to cook,

> (other than deep fat- frying everything), nor do

> they care about the flavor of food that they scarf

> down in a matter of minutes.

> I should also note that they smoke like hell,

> and the demographics are currently changing rapidly

> to a more middle eastern descent.

> They don't work as much as Americans or Canadians

> = less stress.. (but the work weeks are increasing)

>

> They don't stress out easily but have difficult,

> egocentric personalities, and are VERY independant

> into old age. However, I don't expect to see the

> number of centenarians increasing in this country

> (without intervention).

>

> best regards,

> D.H.

>

>

>

>

> Al Pater <old542000@...> wrote:

> Hi All,

>

> See:

>

> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9127135/

>

> reporting that:

>

> World's oldest person dies aged 115

>

> Dutch woman swore by a daily helping of herring

> for a healthy life

>

> Al Pater, PhD; email: old542000@...

>

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