Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 I think wieners can be made of any animal meat. I've wondered why I haven't seen any of soybeans. Regards. [ ] Survival and CR Hi All,In the cold war years, I had fears of food shortages and would imagine what mighthappen regarding my hoarding and protecting food supplies to carry me over theperiod of food shortages that a nuclear holocaust might cause. When people arethrown into conditions of severe food restriction, such as in plane crashes inremote environments without adequate food supplies, the same scenario may apply andmovies of such events are a personal favorite. Until I left St. 's, I hadstored things like flower, rice and vitamins in the freezer, just in case such ascenario occurred.The pdf-available below paper may represent such a story. How would we survive afood emergency? Food variety may be good to avoid something like the theorizedoverdose of vitamins from eating dog livers of the vegetarian in the below paper. Me, I would eat any food in periods of necessity. Even beef would I eat.Carrington- D.Mawson and Mertz: a re-evaluation of their ill-fated mapping journey during the1911-1914 Australasian Antarctic Expedition.Med J Aust. 2005 Dec 5;183(11/12):638-641. PMID: 16336159 During the Australasian Antarctic Expedition of 1911-1914, Mawson and twocompanions, Belgrave Ninnis and Xavier Mertz, undertook an ill-fated mappingjourney. Ninnis died when he fell down a crevasse, together with the sledge carryingmost of their food supplies, and later Mertz became ill and died. Only Mawsonreturned. In 1969, Cleland and Southcott proposed that Mertz died of vitamin Atoxicity and Mawson suffered from the effects of hypervitaminosis A because, withlittle food left, they were forced to eat their surviving dogs, including the liver.This hypothesis was supported by Shearman in 1978. After re-evaluating thishypothesis, I propose that Mawson and Mertz suffered from the effects of severe fooddeprivation, not from hypervitaminosis A, and that Mertz died as he was unable totolerate the change from his usual vegetarian diet to a diet of mainly dog meat. Ialso suggest that Mertz's condition was aggravated by the psychological stress ofbeing forced to eat the dogs he had cared for for 18 months.Al Pater, PhD; email: old542000@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 I think wieners can be made of any animal meat. I've wondered why I haven't seen any of soybeans. Regards. [ ] Survival and CR Hi All,In the cold war years, I had fears of food shortages and would imagine what mighthappen regarding my hoarding and protecting food supplies to carry me over theperiod of food shortages that a nuclear holocaust might cause. When people arethrown into conditions of severe food restriction, such as in plane crashes inremote environments without adequate food supplies, the same scenario may apply andmovies of such events are a personal favorite. Until I left St. 's, I hadstored things like flower, rice and vitamins in the freezer, just in case such ascenario occurred.The pdf-available below paper may represent such a story. How would we survive afood emergency? Food variety may be good to avoid something like the theorizedoverdose of vitamins from eating dog livers of the vegetarian in the below paper. Me, I would eat any food in periods of necessity. Even beef would I eat.Carrington- D.Mawson and Mertz: a re-evaluation of their ill-fated mapping journey during the1911-1914 Australasian Antarctic Expedition.Med J Aust. 2005 Dec 5;183(11/12):638-641. PMID: 16336159 During the Australasian Antarctic Expedition of 1911-1914, Mawson and twocompanions, Belgrave Ninnis and Xavier Mertz, undertook an ill-fated mappingjourney. Ninnis died when he fell down a crevasse, together with the sledge carryingmost of their food supplies, and later Mertz became ill and died. Only Mawsonreturned. In 1969, Cleland and Southcott proposed that Mertz died of vitamin Atoxicity and Mawson suffered from the effects of hypervitaminosis A because, withlittle food left, they were forced to eat their surviving dogs, including the liver.This hypothesis was supported by Shearman in 1978. After re-evaluating thishypothesis, I propose that Mawson and Mertz suffered from the effects of severe fooddeprivation, not from hypervitaminosis A, and that Mertz died as he was unable totolerate the change from his usual vegetarian diet to a diet of mainly dog meat. Ialso suggest that Mertz's condition was aggravated by the psychological stress ofbeing forced to eat the dogs he had cared for for 18 months.Al Pater, PhD; email: old542000@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 --- In , " jwwright " <jwwright@e...> wrote: > > I think wieners can be made of any animal meat. > I've wondered why I haven't seen any of soybeans. They definitely exist! They're over by the tofu section of most grocery stores (often by the produce). - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 --- In , " jwwright " <jwwright@e...> wrote: > > I think wieners can be made of any animal meat. > I've wondered why I haven't seen any of soybeans. They definitely exist! They're over by the tofu section of most grocery stores (often by the produce). - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Thanks, I will definitely try them. They should keep better also. I have this theory that wieners will lose you weight - notice you can't buy a double meat Mac with 8 oz of wieners. Fish is good because people can't buy (or want) a 32 oz cattlemen's special of fish. Regards. [ ] Re: Survival and CR >> I think wieners can be made of any animal meat.> I've wondered why I haven't seen any of soybeans.They definitely exist! They're over by the tofusection of most grocery stores (often by the produce).- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Thanks, I will definitely try them. They should keep better also. I have this theory that wieners will lose you weight - notice you can't buy a double meat Mac with 8 oz of wieners. Fish is good because people can't buy (or want) a 32 oz cattlemen's special of fish. Regards. [ ] Re: Survival and CR >> I think wieners can be made of any animal meat.> I've wondered why I haven't seen any of soybeans.They definitely exist! They're over by the tofusection of most grocery stores (often by the produce).- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Hi JW. Here's a brand that I've seen at some grocery stores... almost always, they can be found at Whole Foods or health food stores. http://www.lightlife.com/pups.html jwwright wrote: I think wieners can be made of any animal meat. I've wondered why I haven't seen any of soybeans. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Hi JW. Here's a brand that I've seen at some grocery stores... almost always, they can be found at Whole Foods or health food stores. http://www.lightlife.com/pups.html jwwright wrote: I think wieners can be made of any animal meat. I've wondered why I haven't seen any of soybeans. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 I've tried several brands (5) of veggie wieners and all taste pretty good. My first impression was: "Why not make them taste better?". Maybe a little celery, onion, garlic flavor, even spicy. They have more protein (9 - 11gms) than meat wieners (5 gms) per standard size wiener. [ ] Re: Survival and CR >> I think wieners can be made of any animal meat.> I've wondered why I haven't seen any of soybeans.They definitely exist! They're over by the tofusection of most grocery stores (often by the produce).- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 I've tried several brands (5) of veggie wieners and all taste pretty good. My first impression was: "Why not make them taste better?". Maybe a little celery, onion, garlic flavor, even spicy. They have more protein (9 - 11gms) than meat wieners (5 gms) per standard size wiener. [ ] Re: Survival and CR >> I think wieners can be made of any animal meat.> I've wondered why I haven't seen any of soybeans.They definitely exist! They're over by the tofusection of most grocery stores (often by the produce).- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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