Re: Try cold showers for long life

[Guest guest]

It's nice to see a picture of him.

I note that although he's not overweight, I note that he's also not rail thin either.

What worries me is that all these studies talk about not " stressing " out if you want to live long. Well I'm a worrier and a person who gets stressed during stressful events (isn't one born that way?). OTOH, so was my mom and she lived to almost 98, with 97 1/2 of those years in vigorous condition (in spite of losing her family in the Holocaust and losing a son, my brother, when she was 95). Genetics probably plays a big role.

on 11/19/2005 11:28 AM, Jeff Novick at jnovick@... wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/11/15/living.well/index.html?section=cnn_health

100-year-old: Try cold showers for long life

By White

CNN

Wednesday, November 16, 2005; Posted: 1:58 p.m. EST (18:58 GMT)

Ed Rondthaler, 100, a longtime Croton commmunity activist, rests at Senasqua Park on the Hudson River.

(CNN) -- Still vigorous at 100 years of age, Rondthaler writes a weekly column for his local newspaper, walks a half-mile every morning and drives himself on errands around his hometown of Croton-on-Hudson, New York.

[Guest guest]

It's nice to see a picture of him.

I note that although he's not overweight, I note that he's also not rail thin either.

What worries me is that all these studies talk about not " stressing " out if you want to live long. Well I'm a worrier and a person who gets stressed during stressful events (isn't one born that way?). OTOH, so was my mom and she lived to almost 98, with 97 1/2 of those years in vigorous condition (in spite of losing her family in the Holocaust and losing a son, my brother, when she was 95). Genetics probably plays a big role.

on 11/19/2005 11:28 AM, Jeff Novick at jnovick@... wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/11/15/living.well/index.html?section=cnn_health

100-year-old: Try cold showers for long life

By White

CNN

Wednesday, November 16, 2005; Posted: 1:58 p.m. EST (18:58 GMT)

Ed Rondthaler, 100, a longtime Croton commmunity activist, rests at Senasqua Park on the Hudson River.

(CNN) -- Still vigorous at 100 years of age, Rondthaler writes a weekly column for his local newspaper, walks a half-mile every morning and drives himself on errands around his hometown of Croton-on-Hudson, New York.

[Guest guest]

So being a worrier is worrying you, too?

That and the fact optimists live longer, bug the heck outta me, also!

Maybe we should both relax and enjoy the present, so that, no matter how long we live, we enjoy whatever there is of it. Barring an afterlife, that's all there is. Perhaps quality of life may outweigh quantity, if all one does with one's extra time is worry? I worry about this also ;}!

Breath deeply, smile, and enjoy the moment. So far, no one's gotten outta this world alive...although we probably all hope to be among the first to do so!

Take none of the above seriously, please!

On 11/19/05, Francesca Skelton <fskelton@...> wrote:

It's nice to see a picture of him. I note that although he's not overweight, I note that he's also not rail thin either.

What worries me is that all these studies talk about not " stressing " out if you want to live long. Well I'm a worrier and a person who gets stressed during stressful events (isn't one born that way?). OTOH, so was my mom and she lived to almost 98, with 97 1/2 of those years in vigorous condition (in spite of losing her family in the Holocaust and losing a son, my brother, when she was 95). Genetics probably plays a big role.

on 11/19/2005 11:28 AM, Jeff Novick at jnovick@... wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/11/15/living.well/index.html?section=cnn_health

100-year-old: Try cold showers for long lifeBy White CNN Wednesday, November 16, 2005; Posted: 1:58 p.m. EST (18:58 GMT) Ed Rondthaler, 100, a longtime Croton commmunity activist, rests at Senasqua Park on the Hudson River.

(CNN) -- Still vigorous at 100 years of age, Rondthaler writes a weekly column for his local newspaper, walks a half-mile every morning and drives himself on errands around his hometown of Croton-on-Hudson, New York.

[Guest guest]

So being a worrier is worrying you, too?

That and the fact optimists live longer, bug the heck outta me, also!

Maybe we should both relax and enjoy the present, so that, no matter how long we live, we enjoy whatever there is of it. Barring an afterlife, that's all there is. Perhaps quality of life may outweigh quantity, if all one does with one's extra time is worry? I worry about this also ;}!

Breath deeply, smile, and enjoy the moment. So far, no one's gotten outta this world alive...although we probably all hope to be among the first to do so!

Take none of the above seriously, please!

On 11/19/05, Francesca Skelton <fskelton@...> wrote:

It's nice to see a picture of him. I note that although he's not overweight, I note that he's also not rail thin either.

What worries me is that all these studies talk about not " stressing " out if you want to live long. Well I'm a worrier and a person who gets stressed during stressful events (isn't one born that way?). OTOH, so was my mom and she lived to almost 98, with 97 1/2 of those years in vigorous condition (in spite of losing her family in the Holocaust and losing a son, my brother, when she was 95). Genetics probably plays a big role.

on 11/19/2005 11:28 AM, Jeff Novick at jnovick@... wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/11/15/living.well/index.html?section=cnn_health

100-year-old: Try cold showers for long lifeBy White CNN Wednesday, November 16, 2005; Posted: 1:58 p.m. EST (18:58 GMT) Ed Rondthaler, 100, a longtime Croton commmunity activist, rests at Senasqua Park on the Hudson River.

(CNN) -- Still vigorous at 100 years of age, Rondthaler writes a weekly column for his local newspaper, walks a half-mile every morning and drives himself on errands around his hometown of Croton-on-Hudson, New York.

[Guest guest]

I just ran across this in the BP group (a credible source) in comparing home versus work BP:"By that I mean that if work BP is higher than the home we dont know if people are healthier if we treat the work BP or not. Would be a very long and expensive trial."

So I have a feeling that stress and BP are related at work. However, I measured mine at work and home for years and never saw a correlation. But then I'm not a person who "accepts" stress. I worked in a stress environment so long, I guess I became immune - as in just another stress event.

There was another thing, I noticed, after a week or month of long hours, the event occurred and there was a post event "let-down" like the drug had run out. Thence followed 2-3 days of not being able to do anything. So the stress may create/secrete a hormone that ages us, (or maybe not), but then we recover with rest.

Perhaps, over 20 yrs, the hormone adds fat to slow us down, and we just connect the "good living" eats to dying younger. This sorta agrees with my opinion that exciting the adrenalin in a race, whatever, is not necessary and doesn't extend life.

I like the idea don't do today what I can put off till tomorrow. Those leaves I "need" to rake have been falling for millions of years when I wasn't here.

Regards.

Re: [ ] Try cold showers for long life

It's nice to see a picture of him. I note that although he's not overweight, I note that he's also not rail thin either. What worries me is that all these studies talk about not "stressing " out if you want to live long. Well I'm a worrier and a person who gets stressed during stressful events (isn't one born that way?). OTOH, so was my mom and she lived to almost 98, with 97 1/2 of those years in vigorous condition (in spite of losing her family in the Holocaust and losing a son, my brother, when she was 95). Genetics probably plays a big role.on 11/19/2005 11:28 AM, Jeff Novick at jnovick@... wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/11/15/living.well/index.html?section=cnn_health100-year-old: Try cold showers for long lifeBy White CNN Wednesday, November 16, 2005; Posted: 1:58 p.m. EST (18:58 GMT) Ed Rondthaler, 100, a longtime Croton commmunity activist, rests at Senasqua Park on the Hudson River.(CNN) -- Still vigorous at 100 years of age, Rondthaler writes a weekly column for his local newspaper, walks a half-mile every morning and drives himself on errands around his hometown of Croton-on-Hudson, New York.

[Guest guest]

I just ran across this in the BP group (a credible source) in comparing home versus work BP:"By that I mean that if work BP is higher than the home we dont know if people are healthier if we treat the work BP or not. Would be a very long and expensive trial."

So I have a feeling that stress and BP are related at work. However, I measured mine at work and home for years and never saw a correlation. But then I'm not a person who "accepts" stress. I worked in a stress environment so long, I guess I became immune - as in just another stress event.

There was another thing, I noticed, after a week or month of long hours, the event occurred and there was a post event "let-down" like the drug had run out. Thence followed 2-3 days of not being able to do anything. So the stress may create/secrete a hormone that ages us, (or maybe not), but then we recover with rest.

Perhaps, over 20 yrs, the hormone adds fat to slow us down, and we just connect the "good living" eats to dying younger. This sorta agrees with my opinion that exciting the adrenalin in a race, whatever, is not necessary and doesn't extend life.

I like the idea don't do today what I can put off till tomorrow. Those leaves I "need" to rake have been falling for millions of years when I wasn't here.

Regards.

Re: [ ] Try cold showers for long life

It's nice to see a picture of him. I note that although he's not overweight, I note that he's also not rail thin either. What worries me is that all these studies talk about not "stressing " out if you want to live long. Well I'm a worrier and a person who gets stressed during stressful events (isn't one born that way?). OTOH, so was my mom and she lived to almost 98, with 97 1/2 of those years in vigorous condition (in spite of losing her family in the Holocaust and losing a son, my brother, when she was 95). Genetics probably plays a big role.on 11/19/2005 11:28 AM, Jeff Novick at jnovick@... wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/11/15/living.well/index.html?section=cnn_health100-year-old: Try cold showers for long lifeBy White CNN Wednesday, November 16, 2005; Posted: 1:58 p.m. EST (18:58 GMT) Ed Rondthaler, 100, a longtime Croton commmunity activist, rests at Senasqua Park on the Hudson River.(CNN) -- Still vigorous at 100 years of age, Rondthaler writes a weekly column for his local newspaper, walks a half-mile every morning and drives himself on errands around his hometown of Croton-on-Hudson, New York.