Guest guest Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Let me pick a little bit. Recall that BMI is a math expression based on the old insurance table. So BMI is related to weight and height. So your waist/height and the other are just variations using the same basic data. Does the BMI table say that some people have less aging? I think not. It says they're a greater risk to the insurance company, meaning higher mortality. And Rodney is just trying to find out if certain parameters are peculiar to CRONies. Regards. [ ] Central Adiposity Measures It seems that the official U.S. guidelines for determining obesity andrisk of CVD are BMI and Waist Circumference.http://www.guidelines.gov/summary/pdf.aspx?doc_id=4118 & stat=1 & string=Persons with a BMI between 25 and 29.9 are overweight and those with aBMI of >30 are obese. There are 3 classes of obesity: class I (BMI30-34.9), class II (BMI 35-39.9), and class III (BMI 40 and above). Men with waist circumferences >102 cm (>40 inches) and women withwaist circumferences >88 cm (>35 inches) are at increased risk forcardiovascular disease. The waist circumference thresholds are notreliable for patients with a BMI >35.Some of the problems in finding good metrics are discussed in PMID:15672103 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Let me pick a little bit. Recall that BMI is a math expression based on the old insurance table. So BMI is related to weight and height. So your waist/height and the other are just variations using the same basic data. Does the BMI table say that some people have less aging? I think not. It says they're a greater risk to the insurance company, meaning higher mortality. And Rodney is just trying to find out if certain parameters are peculiar to CRONies. Regards. [ ] Central Adiposity Measures It seems that the official U.S. guidelines for determining obesity andrisk of CVD are BMI and Waist Circumference.http://www.guidelines.gov/summary/pdf.aspx?doc_id=4118 & stat=1 & string=Persons with a BMI between 25 and 29.9 are overweight and those with aBMI of >30 are obese. There are 3 classes of obesity: class I (BMI30-34.9), class II (BMI 35-39.9), and class III (BMI 40 and above). Men with waist circumferences >102 cm (>40 inches) and women withwaist circumferences >88 cm (>35 inches) are at increased risk forcardiovascular disease. The waist circumference thresholds are notreliable for patients with a BMI >35.Some of the problems in finding good metrics are discussed in PMID:15672103 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 BMI is weight over height*height. Basically it's a very rough calculation of weight/body surface area. (Akin to the old physics joke, " Let's assume a spherical cow... " ) Thus I would expect BMI to be slightly more accurate than just weight/height(or waist/hip), but Jeff's correct- we should be considering all factors because of the limitations of each factor. Diane > > Let me pick a little bit. Recall that BMI is a math expression based on the old insurance table. So BMI is related to weight and height. > So your waist/height and the other are just variations using the same basic data. > > Does the BMI table say that some people have less aging? I think not. > It says they're a greater risk to the insurance company, meaning higher mortality. > > And Rodney is just trying to find out if certain parameters are peculiar to CRONies. > > Regards. > > > [ ] Central Adiposity Measures > > > It seems that the official U.S. guidelines for determining obesity and > risk of CVD are BMI and Waist Circumference. > > http://www.guidelines.gov/summary/pdf.aspx?doc_id=4118 & stat=1 & string= > > Persons with a BMI between 25 and 29.9 are overweight and those with a > BMI of >30 are obese. There are 3 classes of obesity: class I (BMI > 30-34.9), class II (BMI 35-39.9), and class III (BMI 40 and above). > > Men with waist circumferences >102 cm (>40 inches) and women with > waist circumferences >88 cm (>35 inches) are at increased risk for > cardiovascular disease. The waist circumference thresholds are not > reliable for patients with a BMI >35. > > > Some of the problems in finding good metrics are discussed in PMID: > 15672103 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 BMI is weight over height*height. Basically it's a very rough calculation of weight/body surface area. (Akin to the old physics joke, " Let's assume a spherical cow... " ) Thus I would expect BMI to be slightly more accurate than just weight/height(or waist/hip), but Jeff's correct- we should be considering all factors because of the limitations of each factor. Diane > > Let me pick a little bit. Recall that BMI is a math expression based on the old insurance table. So BMI is related to weight and height. > So your waist/height and the other are just variations using the same basic data. > > Does the BMI table say that some people have less aging? I think not. > It says they're a greater risk to the insurance company, meaning higher mortality. > > And Rodney is just trying to find out if certain parameters are peculiar to CRONies. > > Regards. > > > [ ] Central Adiposity Measures > > > It seems that the official U.S. guidelines for determining obesity and > risk of CVD are BMI and Waist Circumference. > > http://www.guidelines.gov/summary/pdf.aspx?doc_id=4118 & stat=1 & string= > > Persons with a BMI between 25 and 29.9 are overweight and those with a > BMI of >30 are obese. There are 3 classes of obesity: class I (BMI > 30-34.9), class II (BMI 35-39.9), and class III (BMI 40 and above). > > Men with waist circumferences >102 cm (>40 inches) and women with > waist circumferences >88 cm (>35 inches) are at increased risk for > cardiovascular disease. The waist circumference thresholds are not > reliable for patients with a BMI >35. > > > Some of the problems in finding good metrics are discussed in PMID: > 15672103 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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