Re: Re: Enzymes improve bioavailability of proteins and carbs

[Guest guest]

Dean Pomeroy, active on the CRSOC list went through such testing a few

years back to make sense of intake and absorption.

You might do a search through their archives if you really want to dig

into that s..... stuff. I consider it waste.

Merry December.. only a couple more days till something

JR

Rodney wrote:

> Hi Katrina:

>

> A couple of additional points on this issue:

>

> First, perhaps stool testing could determine what nutrients we are

> not absorbing. But I have never heard of such tests.

>

> Second, my guess is that people who throughout their lives are able

> to, and do, eat as much as they want without putting on weight, are

> those who do have an intestinal absorption issue. Now if it is just

> fat or carbohydrate calories they are failing to absorb then likely

> there is no problem. But if protein or other nutrients are part of

> it then presumably they will suffer the problems associated with

> nutrient deficiencies.

>

> While the above makes sense to me, I am not aware of cases where it

> has been shown that people who were eating plenty of, say, vitamin C,

> still suffer from scurvy. Or those consuming plenty of vitamin D but

> still have rickets. So perhaps I am out-to-lunch about this?

>

> The absorption issue, as far as I can see, just never seems to be

> discussed. Is this because it never happens? Or because it is an

> under-recognized phenomenon?

>

> Rodney.

>

>

>>>

> http://www.nationalenzymecompany.com/data_files/TNO_Research_Web.pdf

>>> This study supposedly shows that enzymes improve the

> bioavailability

>>> of carbs and proteins. I wonder what effect this will have on

>> CRON?

>>> If we absorb more of what we eat, will that make us age more

>> quickly,

>>> or will we simply remain more healthy during those years and thus

>>> elongate our life even further?

>>>

>>> I've been on fairly high-dose enzymes for a few weeks now, and I

> go

>> to

>>> the bathroom about a quarter of the number of times that I used

> to

>> go.

>>> I also produce less waste with each visit. Sorry once again if

>> this

>>> is too much info, but this seems like a very important topic.

>>>

>>> Yes, I'm aware that I am probably challenged in the alimentary

>>> absorption arena, but the above study implies similar effects

> even

>> in

>>> ideal conditions. However, it was done under artificial

> conditions,

>>> so take the data with a pinch of salt. I only mention the study

>>> because my anecdotal experience backs it up. I " feel " like I am

>>> absorbing and utilitising my food more.

>>>

>>> Katrina.

>>>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dean Pomeroy, active on the CRSOC list went through such testing a few

years back to make sense of intake and absorption.

You might do a search through their archives if you really want to dig

into that s..... stuff. I consider it waste.

Merry December.. only a couple more days till something

JR

Rodney wrote:

> Hi Katrina:

>

> A couple of additional points on this issue:

>

> First, perhaps stool testing could determine what nutrients we are

> not absorbing. But I have never heard of such tests.

>

> Second, my guess is that people who throughout their lives are able

> to, and do, eat as much as they want without putting on weight, are

> those who do have an intestinal absorption issue. Now if it is just

> fat or carbohydrate calories they are failing to absorb then likely

> there is no problem. But if protein or other nutrients are part of

> it then presumably they will suffer the problems associated with

> nutrient deficiencies.

>

> While the above makes sense to me, I am not aware of cases where it

> has been shown that people who were eating plenty of, say, vitamin C,

> still suffer from scurvy. Or those consuming plenty of vitamin D but

> still have rickets. So perhaps I am out-to-lunch about this?

>

> The absorption issue, as far as I can see, just never seems to be

> discussed. Is this because it never happens? Or because it is an

> under-recognized phenomenon?

>

> Rodney.

>

>

>>>

> http://www.nationalenzymecompany.com/data_files/TNO_Research_Web.pdf

>>> This study supposedly shows that enzymes improve the

> bioavailability

>>> of carbs and proteins. I wonder what effect this will have on

>> CRON?

>>> If we absorb more of what we eat, will that make us age more

>> quickly,

>>> or will we simply remain more healthy during those years and thus

>>> elongate our life even further?

>>>

>>> I've been on fairly high-dose enzymes for a few weeks now, and I

> go

>> to

>>> the bathroom about a quarter of the number of times that I used

> to

>> go.

>>> I also produce less waste with each visit. Sorry once again if

>> this

>>> is too much info, but this seems like a very important topic.

>>>

>>> Yes, I'm aware that I am probably challenged in the alimentary

>>> absorption arena, but the above study implies similar effects

> even

>> in

>>> ideal conditions. However, it was done under artificial

> conditions,

>>> so take the data with a pinch of salt. I only mention the study

>>> because my anecdotal experience backs it up. I " feel " like I am

>>> absorbing and utilitising my food more.

>>>

>>> Katrina.

>>>

>

>

>

>

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>

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>

[Guest guest]

That's a lot of perhaps. We have only associations.

I'll do enzymes when it is shown they do not harm the body's ability to "screen" out what we don't need.

Regards.

[ ] Re: Enzymes improve bioavailability of proteins and carbs

> While the above makes sense to me, I am not aware of cases where it > has been shown that people who were eating plenty of, say, vitamin C, > still suffer from scurvy. Or those consuming plenty of vitamin D but > still have rickets. So perhaps I am out-to-lunch about this?Hi Rodney,Perhaps those are extreme cases of nutrient deficiency. Perhapsmilder cases lead to mid-late-life cancer, heart problems, etc.? Allof us have read studies showing that if we eat more 'X' then we getless cancer or heart attacks.K.

[Guest guest]

That's a lot of perhaps. We have only associations.

I'll do enzymes when it is shown they do not harm the body's ability to "screen" out what we don't need.

Regards.

[ ] Re: Enzymes improve bioavailability of proteins and carbs

> While the above makes sense to me, I am not aware of cases where it > has been shown that people who were eating plenty of, say, vitamin C, > still suffer from scurvy. Or those consuming plenty of vitamin D but > still have rickets. So perhaps I am out-to-lunch about this?Hi Rodney,Perhaps those are extreme cases of nutrient deficiency. Perhapsmilder cases lead to mid-late-life cancer, heart problems, etc.? Allof us have read studies showing that if we eat more 'X' then we getless cancer or heart attacks.K.