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Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 A few months ago I posted the following article: http://jp.physoc.org/cgi/content/full/554/3/595 Its relevance to CR, not immediately obvious because it is hidden under a few layers of chronocentric assumptions which the article tries to gently put aside by establishing a more plausible evolutionary hintergrund to modern ills such as obesity and diabetes than can be accounted for by the role assigned to thrifty genes, was at that time called into question. " The continuum between adiposity and impaired carbohydrate metabolism has led to the belief that the extra energy stored by the body as fat is causative in the development of insulin resistance. " Not so. It seems that it isn't the extra glucose mediated energy which is directly responsible for IR but rather the chronically elevated blood lipids caused by adiposity and lack of exercise. " Obesity results in a chronically elevated blood lipid profile, largely because of the mass action effect of excessive adipose tissues stores. Therefore in obesity, an `unnatural' situation for the hunter–gatherer, the elevated blood lipid profile, akin to the circulatory environment experienced in fasting or carbohydrate restriction, acts to trigger the physiological responses for such conditions (Fig. 2). The `misguided' response is to protect circulating glucose via inhibition of muscle glucose transport whilst accumulating IMTG to ensure a readily available substrate for subsequent contractile activity. " Essentially, drawing from much research, the authors postulate that because " Insulin sensitivity is decreased in response to a short-term (3 day) high fat diet (Bachmann et al. 2001) or calorie restriction (Webber et al. 1994; Gazdag et al. 2000). The latter effect is evident as little as 14 h after the last meal (Horowitz et al. 2001) " it could play a significant part in a very dynamic process whereby glucose is spared in order to insure that the brain's needs are met in periods of caloric/nutrient restriction while plasma lipids provide a very effective energy substrate for the glucose deprived skeletal muscles as well as assist in their recovery following exertion. " The survival advantage of elevated IMTG in prehistoric man may have been to provide muscle with an alternative to muscle glycogen as a readily available substrate to support muscle metabolism at the onset of exercise or cold exposure during early starvation or carbohydrate restriction. The recent finding that 72 h of complete food restriction results in a nearly three-fold increase in IMTG in physically trained men (Stannard et al. 2002) is salient evidence that under such conditions FFAs from adipose tissue may be re-distributed to skeletal muscle for storage in the form of IMTG. " Obviously useful when trying to survive on an empty stomach while looking for food. Not surprising if elevated level of plasma lipids cause type 2 diabetes in a context made up of calorie abundant foods and sedentary lifestyle. BY IMPLICATION it seems that a diet high in carbohydrates, but not over abundant in calories, is the best way to avoid the viscious cycle caused by this glucose sparing effect brought about by the mediation of insulin resistance, WHEN NOT REGURLARLY EXERCISING or otherwise approaching the levels of physical activity of paleolithic humans where extra fat intake would have represented great advantages given the paucity of glucose sources. " The whole-body effects of impaired muscle glucose disposal and insulin resistance during starvation or carbohydrate restriction would be relatively greater in the athlete/hunter–gatherer than in sedentary modern man because of their greater relative muscle mass and thus greater sink for glucose disposal. " > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4563604.stm > > Rodney. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 A few months ago I posted the following article: http://jp.physoc.org/cgi/content/full/554/3/595 Its relevance to CR, not immediately obvious because it is hidden under a few layers of chronocentric assumptions which the article tries to gently put aside by establishing a more plausible evolutionary hintergrund to modern ills such as obesity and diabetes than can be accounted for by the role assigned to thrifty genes, was at that time called into question. " The continuum between adiposity and impaired carbohydrate metabolism has led to the belief that the extra energy stored by the body as fat is causative in the development of insulin resistance. " Not so. It seems that it isn't the extra glucose mediated energy which is directly responsible for IR but rather the chronically elevated blood lipids caused by adiposity and lack of exercise. " Obesity results in a chronically elevated blood lipid profile, largely because of the mass action effect of excessive adipose tissues stores. Therefore in obesity, an `unnatural' situation for the hunter–gatherer, the elevated blood lipid profile, akin to the circulatory environment experienced in fasting or carbohydrate restriction, acts to trigger the physiological responses for such conditions (Fig. 2). The `misguided' response is to protect circulating glucose via inhibition of muscle glucose transport whilst accumulating IMTG to ensure a readily available substrate for subsequent contractile activity. " Essentially, drawing from much research, the authors postulate that because " Insulin sensitivity is decreased in response to a short-term (3 day) high fat diet (Bachmann et al. 2001) or calorie restriction (Webber et al. 1994; Gazdag et al. 2000). The latter effect is evident as little as 14 h after the last meal (Horowitz et al. 2001) " it could play a significant part in a very dynamic process whereby glucose is spared in order to insure that the brain's needs are met in periods of caloric/nutrient restriction while plasma lipids provide a very effective energy substrate for the glucose deprived skeletal muscles as well as assist in their recovery following exertion. " The survival advantage of elevated IMTG in prehistoric man may have been to provide muscle with an alternative to muscle glycogen as a readily available substrate to support muscle metabolism at the onset of exercise or cold exposure during early starvation or carbohydrate restriction. The recent finding that 72 h of complete food restriction results in a nearly three-fold increase in IMTG in physically trained men (Stannard et al. 2002) is salient evidence that under such conditions FFAs from adipose tissue may be re-distributed to skeletal muscle for storage in the form of IMTG. " Obviously useful when trying to survive on an empty stomach while looking for food. Not surprising if elevated level of plasma lipids cause type 2 diabetes in a context made up of calorie abundant foods and sedentary lifestyle. BY IMPLICATION it seems that a diet high in carbohydrates, but not over abundant in calories, is the best way to avoid the viscious cycle caused by this glucose sparing effect brought about by the mediation of insulin resistance, WHEN NOT REGURLARLY EXERCISING or otherwise approaching the levels of physical activity of paleolithic humans where extra fat intake would have represented great advantages given the paucity of glucose sources. " The whole-body effects of impaired muscle glucose disposal and insulin resistance during starvation or carbohydrate restriction would be relatively greater in the athlete/hunter–gatherer than in sedentary modern man because of their greater relative muscle mass and thus greater sink for glucose disposal. " > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4563604.stm > > Rodney. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 Hi all, see this link,it seem´s to me like a good resume of the actual knowledge. Question: if pancreas is not enough insulin production what about obesity and insulin resistance? what is first? http://mp.medscape.com/cgi-bin1/DM/y/hwsJ0Fs5jj0Dzr0HAuL0Eh 1GB gratis, Antivirus y Antispam Correo , el mejor correo web del mundo Abrí tu cuenta aquí Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 Hi all, see this link,it seem´s to me like a good resume of the actual knowledge. Question: if pancreas is not enough insulin production what about obesity and insulin resistance? what is first? http://mp.medscape.com/cgi-bin1/DM/y/hwsJ0Fs5jj0Dzr0HAuL0Eh 1GB gratis, Antivirus y Antispam Correo , el mejor correo web del mundo Abrí tu cuenta aquí Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 >>>if pancreas is not enough insulin production what about obesity and insulin resistance? what is first? In most all cases.... Obesity Insulin resistance, (IR) if you think about it, should cause thinness, not fatness. In type I diabetics, (no insulin) which could be thought of as the epitomy of IR, they are thin, not fat. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 >>>if pancreas is not enough insulin production what about obesity and insulin resistance? what is first? In most all cases.... Obesity Insulin resistance, (IR) if you think about it, should cause thinness, not fatness. In type I diabetics, (no insulin) which could be thought of as the epitomy of IR, they are thin, not fat. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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