Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 In a message dated 8/3/2005 4:27:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, RSYOSH writes: Usually school busses are exempt under state law (re: seat belts & booster seats). But definitely push for a seat (or at least a seat blet) installed for him in the regular bus. had a seat belt installed for her on the regular bus in Kindergarten. It was great for 2 reasons - kept her stabilized so she didn't slide off the seat due to poor muscle tone, AND kept her from standing on the seat to wave out the window (!). - Becky There are seat belts on the bus already and I already suggested that I would put him on and belt him in. I also requested a seat buddy from the neighborhood and seating right behind the bus driver. They are still worried about his being so small, he is only 28 pounds, but I will continue the good fight. loree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 In a message dated 8/3/2005 5:46:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, leslie-kerrigan@... writes: If transportation won't put a car seat on, I'd buy an extra (cheap) one and send it back and forth each day...... I suggested that (also said i would provide one) They said they didn't know if the bus company would allow it.. The special ed busses have them but I want him on a " big " bus and that is the problem. loree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 In a message dated 8/3/2005 5:46:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, leslie-kerrigan@... writes: If transportation won't put a car seat on, I'd buy an extra (cheap) one and send it back and forth each day...... I suggested that (also said i would provide one) They said they didn't know if the bus company would allow it.. The special ed busses have them but I want him on a " big " bus and that is the problem. loree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 That's ultimately what i want, and I agree with you eith the HS bus. Here, even the junior high bus gets out of control, but I will deal with that issue when the time comes. One year at a time is enough for any mother to take lol!! Loree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 That's ultimately what i want, and I agree with you eith the HS bus. Here, even the junior high bus gets out of control, but I will deal with that issue when the time comes. One year at a time is enough for any mother to take lol!! Loree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 You may want to look to his rights under ADA from the Department of Justice _http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/cguide.htm#anchor62335_ (http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/cguide.htm#anchor62335) - Becky The ADA prohibits discrimination on the basis of disability in employment, State and local government, public accommodations, commercial facilities, transportation, and telecommunications. It also applies to the United States Congress.To be protected by the ADA, one must have a disability or have a relationship or association with an individual with a disability. An individual with a disability is defined by the ADA as a person who has a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities, a person who has a history or record of such an impairment, or a person who is perceived by others as having such an impairment. The ADA does not specifically name all of the impairments that are covered. In a message dated 8/3/2005 5:59:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, Loree5@... writes: In a message dated 8/3/2005 5:46:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, leslie-kerrigan@... writes: If transportation won't put a car seat on, I'd buy an extra (cheap) one and send it back and forth each day...... I suggested that (also said i would provide one) They said they didn't know if the bus company would allow it.. The special ed busses have them but I want him on a " big " bus and that is the problem. loree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 You may want to look to his rights under ADA from the Department of Justice _http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/cguide.htm#anchor62335_ (http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/cguide.htm#anchor62335) - Becky The ADA prohibits discrimination on the basis of disability in employment, State and local government, public accommodations, commercial facilities, transportation, and telecommunications. It also applies to the United States Congress.To be protected by the ADA, one must have a disability or have a relationship or association with an individual with a disability. An individual with a disability is defined by the ADA as a person who has a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities, a person who has a history or record of such an impairment, or a person who is perceived by others as having such an impairment. The ADA does not specifically name all of the impairments that are covered. In a message dated 8/3/2005 5:59:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, Loree5@... writes: In a message dated 8/3/2005 5:46:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, leslie-kerrigan@... writes: If transportation won't put a car seat on, I'd buy an extra (cheap) one and send it back and forth each day...... I suggested that (also said i would provide one) They said they didn't know if the bus company would allow it.. The special ed busses have them but I want him on a " big " bus and that is the problem. loree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Usually school busses are exempt under state law (re: seat belts & booster seats). But definitely push for a seat (or at least a seat blet) installed for him in the regular bus. had a seat belt installed for her on the regular bus in Kindergarten. It was great for 2 reasons - kept her stabilized so she didn't slide off the seat due to poor muscle tone, AND kept her from standing on the seat to wave out the window (!). - Becky (no subject) WHooHoo I just came from Micah's CSE meeting and we got everything we wanted. He will be going to a regular kindy for a half day in Sept. to work up to a full day after Christmas. He will be getting a push in teacher consult, an aide, all his therapies right after his 3 hour day. They initially said it would be a problem but then said the elementary school should be able to work it out. We will meet as a team before school starts in less then a month. The only problem I may have is that I want him on the regular bus and they said they didn't think they could do that because he is so tiny it is a safety issue. I said he is not the first little one to go to kindy. They are going to talk to bus company about putting a car seat on the big bus. They tried to say that they couldn't put him on if it was against the law. My argument will be, if they come back that they can't do it, is that New York's new law is that every child under 7 is to be restrained in a car seat, so what are they doing for all the 5,6 and 7 year olds. I know the bus doesn't seem like a big issue but the kids around here all know and love Micah and I think he is just as safe on the big bus, why rock the boat. Anyway I am one happy camper. Oh and he will be going back to kindy next year. This is almost like a dress rehearsal for the elementary school because they don't have a kindy inclusion class, so now they will. This year we can work the kinks out so next year should be smooth sailing...I can dream can't I lol!!! Loree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Usually school busses are exempt under state law (re: seat belts & booster seats). But definitely push for a seat (or at least a seat blet) installed for him in the regular bus. had a seat belt installed for her on the regular bus in Kindergarten. It was great for 2 reasons - kept her stabilized so she didn't slide off the seat due to poor muscle tone, AND kept her from standing on the seat to wave out the window (!). - Becky (no subject) WHooHoo I just came from Micah's CSE meeting and we got everything we wanted. He will be going to a regular kindy for a half day in Sept. to work up to a full day after Christmas. He will be getting a push in teacher consult, an aide, all his therapies right after his 3 hour day. They initially said it would be a problem but then said the elementary school should be able to work it out. We will meet as a team before school starts in less then a month. The only problem I may have is that I want him on the regular bus and they said they didn't think they could do that because he is so tiny it is a safety issue. I said he is not the first little one to go to kindy. They are going to talk to bus company about putting a car seat on the big bus. They tried to say that they couldn't put him on if it was against the law. My argument will be, if they come back that they can't do it, is that New York's new law is that every child under 7 is to be restrained in a car seat, so what are they doing for all the 5,6 and 7 year olds. I know the bus doesn't seem like a big issue but the kids around here all know and love Micah and I think he is just as safe on the big bus, why rock the boat. Anyway I am one happy camper. Oh and he will be going back to kindy next year. This is almost like a dress rehearsal for the elementary school because they don't have a kindy inclusion class, so now they will. This year we can work the kinks out so next year should be smooth sailing...I can dream can't I lol!!! Loree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 In a message dated 8/3/2005 7:39:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, RSYOSH writes: You may want to look to his rights under ADA from the Department of Justice _http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/cguide.htm#anchor62335_ (http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/cguide.htm#anchor62335) Becky, you are the best!! What would I do (or any of us) without you. Loree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 In a message dated 8/3/2005 7:39:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, RSYOSH writes: You may want to look to his rights under ADA from the Department of Justice _http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/cguide.htm#anchor62335_ (http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/cguide.htm#anchor62335) Becky, you are the best!! What would I do (or any of us) without you. Loree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 In a message dated 8/3/2005 7:39:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, RSYOSH writes: You may want to look to his rights under ADA from the Department of Justice _http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/cguide.htm#anchor62335_ (http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/cguide.htm#anchor62335) Becky, you are the best!! What would I do (or any of us) without you. Loree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Sounds like you had a great transition meeting! Good for you!!!!!! That's pretty much what we asked for for in kindergarten, but didn't get the therapies after the 1/2 day kinder.... however, OT and PE were done as push in, so she was only pulled for speech. We didn't have a bus issue in kindergarten because we are only a mile from school (aka " walkers " ) However, last year (and this year too) we have been relocated to a different campus while they tear down and rebuild our home school. rides the bus with her sisters (seatless, as she's now about 55 lbs) and it's been great. The social aspect of riding with all the kids has been wonderful for ... in fact, the bus passes arrived today, and she was soooooooo excited..... " Mom, let me see my new bus pass! Oh, and it has my picture on it! " Good thing she doesn't know it means school starts in 3 weeks, LOL. Our district had car seats and booster seats on the preschool sped busses (though they wouldn't write it in the IEP because they couldn't guarentee it, in case there was a change in busses and the sub bus didn't have a car seat). One time they showed up without a car seat, and I just grabbed 's from our car, wrote her name on the side with a Sharpie, and put her on the bus. Driver said she couldn't use her own personal car seat, and I told him that was his problem, showing up without one, and he needed to take her to school The was pretty much the last time the bus showed up seatless. I also informed the teachers that if there wasn't a seat on the bus coming home that they were not to put her on it, just call and I'd come get her. That never happened. Then the district went to some sort of 5 point harnass/restraint belt on the sped busses, and took away all the car sears. Fortunately, was about 40 pouonds at this point, so it worked OK.... she didn't slip out, but she did fall asleep on the way home, and was in quite a heap amongst the straps, LOL. If transportation won't put a car seat on, I'd buy an extra (cheap) one and send it back and forth each day...... someone will most likely be meeting him at the bus and putting him back on, so they can carry the seat. Maybe if the school gets tired of carrying a car seat back and forth, they will put some pressure on transportation to provide one. Glad things went well for you guys. , mom to (9), Elizabetrh (7 DS), and (5) Loree5@... wrote: >WHooHoo I just came from Micah's CSE meeting and we got everything we >wanted. He will be going to a regular kindy for a half day in Sept. to work up to >a full day after Christmas. He will be getting a push in teacher consult, >an aide, all his therapies right after his 3 hour day. They initially said >it would be a problem but then said the elementary school should be able to >work it out. We will meet as a team before school starts in less then a month. > The only problem I may have is that I want him on the regular bus and they >said they didn't think they could do that because he is so tiny it is a >safety issue. I said he is not the first little one to go to kindy. They are >going to talk to bus company about putting a car seat on the big bus. They >tried to say that they couldn't put him on if it was against the law. My >argument will be, if they come back that they can't do it, is that New York's new >law is that every child under 7 is to be restrained in a car seat, so what are >they doing for all the 5,6 and 7 year olds. I know the bus doesn't seem >like a big issue but the kids around here all know and love Micah and I think he >is just as safe on the big bus, why rock the boat. Anyway I am one happy >camper. Oh and he will be going back to kindy next year. This is almost like >a dress rehearsal for the elementary school because they don't have a kindy >inclusion class, so now they will. This year we can work the kinks out so >next year should be smooth sailing...I can dream can't I lol!!! > >Loree > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Sounds like you had a great transition meeting! Good for you!!!!!! That's pretty much what we asked for for in kindergarten, but didn't get the therapies after the 1/2 day kinder.... however, OT and PE were done as push in, so she was only pulled for speech. We didn't have a bus issue in kindergarten because we are only a mile from school (aka " walkers " ) However, last year (and this year too) we have been relocated to a different campus while they tear down and rebuild our home school. rides the bus with her sisters (seatless, as she's now about 55 lbs) and it's been great. The social aspect of riding with all the kids has been wonderful for ... in fact, the bus passes arrived today, and she was soooooooo excited..... " Mom, let me see my new bus pass! Oh, and it has my picture on it! " Good thing she doesn't know it means school starts in 3 weeks, LOL. Our district had car seats and booster seats on the preschool sped busses (though they wouldn't write it in the IEP because they couldn't guarentee it, in case there was a change in busses and the sub bus didn't have a car seat). One time they showed up without a car seat, and I just grabbed 's from our car, wrote her name on the side with a Sharpie, and put her on the bus. Driver said she couldn't use her own personal car seat, and I told him that was his problem, showing up without one, and he needed to take her to school The was pretty much the last time the bus showed up seatless. I also informed the teachers that if there wasn't a seat on the bus coming home that they were not to put her on it, just call and I'd come get her. That never happened. Then the district went to some sort of 5 point harnass/restraint belt on the sped busses, and took away all the car sears. Fortunately, was about 40 pouonds at this point, so it worked OK.... she didn't slip out, but she did fall asleep on the way home, and was in quite a heap amongst the straps, LOL. If transportation won't put a car seat on, I'd buy an extra (cheap) one and send it back and forth each day...... someone will most likely be meeting him at the bus and putting him back on, so they can carry the seat. Maybe if the school gets tired of carrying a car seat back and forth, they will put some pressure on transportation to provide one. Glad things went well for you guys. , mom to (9), Elizabetrh (7 DS), and (5) Loree5@... wrote: >WHooHoo I just came from Micah's CSE meeting and we got everything we >wanted. He will be going to a regular kindy for a half day in Sept. to work up to >a full day after Christmas. He will be getting a push in teacher consult, >an aide, all his therapies right after his 3 hour day. They initially said >it would be a problem but then said the elementary school should be able to >work it out. We will meet as a team before school starts in less then a month. > The only problem I may have is that I want him on the regular bus and they >said they didn't think they could do that because he is so tiny it is a >safety issue. I said he is not the first little one to go to kindy. They are >going to talk to bus company about putting a car seat on the big bus. They >tried to say that they couldn't put him on if it was against the law. My >argument will be, if they come back that they can't do it, is that New York's new >law is that every child under 7 is to be restrained in a car seat, so what are >they doing for all the 5,6 and 7 year olds. I know the bus doesn't seem >like a big issue but the kids around here all know and love Micah and I think he >is just as safe on the big bus, why rock the boat. Anyway I am one happy >camper. Oh and he will be going back to kindy next year. This is almost like >a dress rehearsal for the elementary school because they don't have a kindy >inclusion class, so now they will. This year we can work the kinks out so >next year should be smooth sailing...I can dream can't I lol!!! > >Loree > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Maverick rode in a regular, full sized school bus when he was 3 yrs old. We had a carseat that we provided and sent with him each day. When he went to the inclusive preschool, the bus was set up to transport typical, wheelchair,and other sp needs. The seats had special 5 point harnesses hooked up to him. I was nervous about that since at that time he was getting out of his regular carseat, but I examined them and they were very secure. In elementary he didn't ride a bus, we live right across the street (don't you think the school just LOVED that? I was a drop in mom BIGTIME!). In Jr. High we had it written in his IEP that he would ride the regular ed bus. Now we are heading to HS and I am wondering if it might not be safer for him to ride the sp ed bus. He knows most of the kids and I won't have to worry about him being picked on by the other kids. The busses here are out of control. The kids are just so wild. My 16 yr old rides that bus and the stories are frightening just for HIM riding, but then with Maverick.. yikes! I did keep him in a car seat in our car until he was about 8 due to low muscle tone. I just felt safer knowing that he was more retrained. I would write it into my IEP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Maverick rode in a regular, full sized school bus when he was 3 yrs old. We had a carseat that we provided and sent with him each day. When he went to the inclusive preschool, the bus was set up to transport typical, wheelchair,and other sp needs. The seats had special 5 point harnesses hooked up to him. I was nervous about that since at that time he was getting out of his regular carseat, but I examined them and they were very secure. In elementary he didn't ride a bus, we live right across the street (don't you think the school just LOVED that? I was a drop in mom BIGTIME!). In Jr. High we had it written in his IEP that he would ride the regular ed bus. Now we are heading to HS and I am wondering if it might not be safer for him to ride the sp ed bus. He knows most of the kids and I won't have to worry about him being picked on by the other kids. The busses here are out of control. The kids are just so wild. My 16 yr old rides that bus and the stories are frightening just for HIM riding, but then with Maverick.. yikes! I did keep him in a car seat in our car until he was about 8 due to low muscle tone. I just felt safer knowing that he was more retrained. I would write it into my IEP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 I was VERY fortunate in Jr. High to have a friend who was the bus driver and knew Maverick very well. She had control over all of the kids and often told me that Mav was the best behaved. When the transportation found out that we wanted Mav on a reg ed bus they called and said that they needed to place a Sp needs child on her bus. She said fine and THEN they informed her that the mother was difficult to deal with. She asked who it was and when they told her it was me she just laughed and told them that I wasn't difficult to deal with, I just wanted what was best for my child and I wasn't afraid to go after it. Some kids on the bus would go to school and tell his aide that he was in trouble on the bus and she would send me a not or call me and tell me that he had had a problem on the bus. I would ask the driver about it and she would tell me what really happened. We had to have more talks with that aide about not listening to the kids. She's our past now also. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 I was VERY fortunate in Jr. High to have a friend who was the bus driver and knew Maverick very well. She had control over all of the kids and often told me that Mav was the best behaved. When the transportation found out that we wanted Mav on a reg ed bus they called and said that they needed to place a Sp needs child on her bus. She said fine and THEN they informed her that the mother was difficult to deal with. She asked who it was and when they told her it was me she just laughed and told them that I wasn't difficult to deal with, I just wanted what was best for my child and I wasn't afraid to go after it. Some kids on the bus would go to school and tell his aide that he was in trouble on the bus and she would send me a not or call me and tell me that he had had a problem on the bus. I would ask the driver about it and she would tell me what really happened. We had to have more talks with that aide about not listening to the kids. She's our past now also. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 Jessie, I don't think that you who have the " higher functioning " kids intend to make us feel that our children are lacking. It's just human nature. It's actually like with parents are kids with NDA children. You always feel like your child is lacking if he doesn't do what little ny next door is. I know that Maverick has his weaknesses, esp in the academic area. And speech. But I have learned to look at his strengths. He is VERY athletic. He is very loving. He is ery social. BUT, if you compared him to some of the kids on this list.. (LOL and I DO) he is not where I would like him to be academically. And I feel bad about that. I would like him to be more able to function on his own. But he won't. That's just Mav. And I love him. With all of his flaws. And he loves me. With all of my flaws. M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 Jessie, I don't think that you who have the " higher functioning " kids intend to make us feel that our children are lacking. It's just human nature. It's actually like with parents are kids with NDA children. You always feel like your child is lacking if he doesn't do what little ny next door is. I know that Maverick has his weaknesses, esp in the academic area. And speech. But I have learned to look at his strengths. He is VERY athletic. He is very loving. He is ery social. BUT, if you compared him to some of the kids on this list.. (LOL and I DO) he is not where I would like him to be academically. And I feel bad about that. I would like him to be more able to function on his own. But he won't. That's just Mav. And I love him. With all of his flaws. And he loves me. With all of my flaws. M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 In a message dated 8/25/2005 2:13:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Michdock@... writes: That's just Mav. And I love him. With all of his flaws. And he loves me. With all of my flaws. How great is that!! And how true!! Loree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 In a message dated 8/25/2005 2:13:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Michdock@... writes: That's just Mav. And I love him. With all of his flaws. And he loves me. With all of my flaws. How great is that!! And how true!! Loree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 You know I looked at the kids at the suaree and did make some comment on how each of them is different from each other- each with their own set of strengths and challenges. Like is not athletic at all- she cant climb, ride a bike, swim, etc. I remember when she was about 5 or 6 we used to go to a park with another little girl her age also with DS. Well the other girl was climbing to the top of the monkey bars and was fearless on all the equipment. couldnt do any of it. I remember then feeling bad for amanda and wishing she could do something fun at the playground. but here we are about 10 years later and amanda still cant climb, but she can speak and read and use computers and has the guts to sing in a church choir every sunday with sometimes 200 people present. She also can have fun at the playground by swinging on the swings sometimes for hours. We have to look at each of our kids- know where they have been and how far they have come- sometimes with more challenges than others, but always with a sense of perserverance way beyond other people. Think about all that some of our kids have been through medically and how they pull through and manage their lives in remarkable ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 You know I looked at the kids at the suaree and did make some comment on how each of them is different from each other- each with their own set of strengths and challenges. Like is not athletic at all- she cant climb, ride a bike, swim, etc. I remember when she was about 5 or 6 we used to go to a park with another little girl her age also with DS. Well the other girl was climbing to the top of the monkey bars and was fearless on all the equipment. couldnt do any of it. I remember then feeling bad for amanda and wishing she could do something fun at the playground. but here we are about 10 years later and amanda still cant climb, but she can speak and read and use computers and has the guts to sing in a church choir every sunday with sometimes 200 people present. She also can have fun at the playground by swinging on the swings sometimes for hours. We have to look at each of our kids- know where they have been and how far they have come- sometimes with more challenges than others, but always with a sense of perserverance way beyond other people. Think about all that some of our kids have been through medically and how they pull through and manage their lives in remarkable ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 What New York accent??? LOL I know isnt it great to meet people and then read their posts in their accents? I like and Sharon's accents a lot and cant read their posts without a little southern drawl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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