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[Guest guest]

My daughter is also 5 and she also happens to have Down syndrome.... so we

are at similar times in our lives with our little girls educational

times.... happens to be in a regular ed classroom with a full time

aide..... which she did not get until late november .. and that was after a

dragged out IEP process.... she gets OT and speech... and is pulled out for

reading supports..... the rest of her time is in with her typical peers...

Vickie's greatest delay also appeared to be speech which made knowing what

she understood difficult at times.... of all the teachers that has

contact with, the only one I am not that 100% cool with is the speech

therapist and I think that is more just personality.... nothing to do with

her skills.... but Vickie has progressed greatly since september... in all

areas.... her speech especially.... I am pretty sure it was more to do with

the constant exposure to typical peers then the speech therapy per se (1

hour a week).... she is also doing some beginning reading (words like see,

dora, girl, is, ball etc.).... counting into the 20's.... starting to

independantly try to write letters... (though you should see them

sometimes..LOL)... She is still not potty trained but is making progress...

I had to fight for the placement in the regular ed classroom... I told them

I would not accept anything else unless we tried it with all appropriate

supports and aides first.... when they told me that she needed to be in

lifeskills I told them that the lifeskills that Vickie needed with reading,

writing, and arithmatics.... not feeding yourself, not learning to use the

potty yourself (that will come in time), not the other things typically seen

in a lifeskills class... I think I annoyed the special ed teacher because

she does work on academics... but it is so mixed with other things like

their field trip to sit on santa's lap and buy something at the mall... that

I was just not as comfortable with..... I will admit that as gets

older... she may need more individual supports and maybe at that point a

more segreated environment will be appropriate but then again maybe not.....

I will cross that bridge when I get there....

saying all that and putting it aside, I agree with .... each and

everyone of our children are individuals... with different needs...

different skills and different learning styles... follow your heart... the

teacher you did not like... was she a reg ed teacher... or in a special

classroom for general delays?? did they tell you that Amelia could be

placed in a regular ed classroom that she would have gone to if she did not

have Down syndrome?? did they offer and aide to see if that would make her

sucessfull?? It is not to late to change her placement if you feel it is

best... it may be harder since she is already in a segrated class... but not

impossible.... but if this teacher is helping Amelia and you are happy with

her progress, maybe next year is an option for a different placement....

research everything and then make your decision.... education is a

process... constantly evolving.... placement is not static ....

take care

Re: (no subject)

> My daughter Amelia, 5 with ds, is in a self contained class that does

> " specials " with the typical kids. Specials are recess, library, lunch-non

> academic. Her special ed teacher is so warm and kind and great with the

> kids. I can't say enough about how much confidence I have in this

> teacher's ability to educate-special ed or typical. Seh is quite simply a

> wonderful teacher. The class has one other child with DS. Two with

> autism. Three I don't know why they are in theres. She started out in

> our neighborhood school in a kindergarten class for general delays with a

> teacher that I could not tolerate. That teacher said Amelia needed to be

> in a class for MR kids. That teacher flat out wasn't any good. Old

> fashioned and rigid. She was afraid to tell me that Amelia is retarded.

> Really danced around the subject but finally gave me the definition of the

> word retarded-like I don't know-to segue into the fact that Amelia needed

> " more then she could get in the regular class. " I feel that

> Amelia is mildly retarded-but her speech, while quite recently

> progressing, is very delayed. She is as obstinate as a mule oftentimes.

> Is the fact that she doesn't speak well and won't cooperate making her

> seem more retarded then she is? I think so. My dilemma is the special ed

> teacher is more progressive and just a better teacher then the regular

> teacher that Amelia would get if I took her out of special ed. So I keep

> her in special ed wondering if I am doing her a disservice? A few weeks

> ago someone in this group had an adult daughter with ds and he seemed to

> be suggesting that the added help that they get in special ed translates

> into better performance with regard to reading and math skills. He also

> said that they don't care to hang out with their typical peers as much as

> they get older and I have already seen this with Amelia. She is in a

> before and after school program (all typical kids) that she has attended

> since the age of two (initially as a preschool setting) and

> she could care less about the other kids. She always plays on her own and

> this even with the other kids trying to get her to play with them. Even

> after three years some of the more persistent kids will try to get her to

> play with them. Not interested. The only exception to her lack of

> interest in her typical peers is a friendship she has with two children

> who are serious behavior problems (by typical preschool standards.) These

> two kids have behaviors I'd just as soon do without. Amelia will play with

> them for a limited time if they pursue it, but doesn't appear phased if

> they don't. Amelia's four year old brother is her best buddy and she'd be

> content to hang with no one but him. So after this ridiculously long

> message I am wondering what to do. Is a self contained class bad for a

> child with Down Syndrome? I just don't know what to do. Story of my

> life, especially since I had kids.

>

> Ann mother to Amelia (ds 5) and Jake.

>

> Loree5@... wrote:

> What a week. I just found out that Micah has sleep apnea and has to

> have

> tonsils and adenoids removed. Not something I am looking forward to.

> Then we

> went today for our sub-committee meeting to discuss Micah's placement

> for

> next year. They are trying to talk me into putting him into the self

> contained

> classroom half a day next year and I am adamantley opposed. He has done

> well in the regular classroom there is just not enough support so of

> course they

> want the self contained and I want more support in the classroom. I was

> told they didn't do that in this district. I said " Not my problem, he

> has

> proven to be able to do well in the regular educational environment so

> you provide

> what he needs or find an inclusion kindergarten in a neighboring

> district.

> So of course the meeting was tabled and we will take it up at a full

> committee meeting. You will love this though, his OT who I have been

> after to work

> on his writing skills keeps saying he is not ready. Despite the fact

> that we

> are working on it at home and beginning to have some success because I

> MAKE

> him do his work. Her report was that he can make horizontal lines now

> and

> circle's. I said " Well he has been doing that since before he started

> school. "

> SO the chairperson says " Well see he hasn't made any improvement " I said

> " Really??!! " And let it hang in the air. Everyone knew what I meant,

> someone is not doing their job. You should have seen the looks on

> everyone's face

> when it registered. I am so frustrated because I am going to have to

> fight

> this district every year. but I will not give up. I am so tired of them

> getting

> away with not following the law. I woke up with a nasty head cold this

> morning and feel like you know what so I am very cranky to say the least.

> Thanks

> for listening guys, I just needed to vent!!

>

> Loree Mom to Micah, hear me roar!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ann,

Each of us struggles with this decision.... a lot. My daughter,

, is fully included in 2nd grade with a 1:1 aide, pulled for

speech (2x per week), OT (1x per week), APE (1x per week) and to

resource for math each day for 30 minutes. We feel this is the best

form of " inclusion " for her, yet some folks have had luck with " push-in "

services such that the child never has to leave the regular ed

classroom. That sounded really great to me, and we did some in

kindergarten, but because does so much better 1:1 for things

like speech and OT, we " gave in " and let them pull her for those,

starting in 1st grade. This year, since she struggled so much with

math, we allowed them to pull her to the resource room for math. Again,

I felt like " here we go, chipping away at inclusion.... what will they

do next? " Yet, has done really well this year. Her behavior

is much better than last year (much less stubborn.... maybe she's just

maturing or maybe she's just not as frustrated and unable to express

it?), she's learning more in all subjects, and although she doens't have

school friends that she plays with much outside school, she has many

friends at school that she plays jumprope with, plays ball with, etc.

She always has someone to each lunch with, and the typical kids treat

her very well. Most importantly, she likes being with the typical kids,

and I think this will help her survive better in the " typical " world

later on.

This is what we wanted for her, and I hope that we continue to feel that

this is an approprate placement for her. But I also look at things " a

year at a time " . She is very verbal, and may very well tell is in

middle school that she perfers to spend time with kids more like herself

(currently, her " best " friend is another little girl with DS her same

age)..... who knows. There may be a horrible teacher that we can't work

with..... one year at a time.

I feel confident that this is working so well for because (1)

I have made it clear (from our first transition to the school district

at age 3) that we expect full inclusion, WITH APPROPRIATE SUPPORTS, and

that we won't disuss other placements at this time; and (2) that the

school part of the team is fully on board for including .....

they have never suggested otherwise except to inform me of all my

options when we transitioned to kinder :-) We have had teachers that

have really taken personal pride in teaching , and share their

joy when she succeeds (and try to mask their frustration when she's

being a little stinker!). In fact, when entered kinder, the

RSP (real dud, no longer at our school, thankfully) suggested that Mrs.

H. would be the best placement for because she was very

structured. However, she did mention (thankfully) that Mrs. W really

wanted to have in her class. I told them..... put her in Mrs.

W's class, and was so glad! Having a teacher that is willing to put in

a little extra for a child is such a blessing.

You sound like you'd like a better chance for inclusion, but with an

awful teacher, are not sure where to go. Is there any other

kindergarten class Amelia can be in? At another school nearby? What

sort of supports did the previous teacher get? Did Amelia have an

aide? Was she getting speech, and did the SLP assist the classroom

teacher with ways to help Amelia communicate with the teacher and

classmates (sign lauguage, PECS?) Self-contained classroom as a

different as typical classrooms, and it sounds like you have a great

one. If you are happy with the environment and that Amelia is learning,

and if this is where you'd like her to be, then by all means, don't beat

yourself up..... all our kids are different, our school opportunites are

different, and families are different..... there is no " best " placement

for a child with DS. However, if you don't feel that she was given a

good chance for inclusion, or some other type of placement, and you want

to try and get her there, then read up, know your rights, get help from

someone who has successfully done what you'd like, and then start the

process..... there is lots of help around here!

Good luck,

, mom to (10), (8 DS), and (6)

Ann Masch wrote:

>My daughter Amelia, 5 with ds, is in a self contained class that does

" specials " with the typical kids. Specials are recess, library, lunch-non

academic. Her special ed teacher is so warm and kind and great with the kids. I

can't say enough about how much confidence I have in this teacher's ability to

educate-special ed or typical. Seh is quite simply a wonderful teacher. The

class has one other child with DS. Two with autism. Three I don't know why

they are in theres. She started out in our neighborhood school in a

kindergarten class for general delays with a teacher that I could not tolerate.

That teacher said Amelia needed to be in a class for MR kids. That teacher flat

out wasn't any good. Old fashioned and rigid. She was afraid to tell me that

Amelia is retarded. Really danced around the subject but finally gave me the

definition of the word retarded-like I don't know-to segue into the fact that

Amelia needed " more then she could get in the regular class. " I feel that

> Amelia is mildly retarded-but her speech, while quite recently progressing, is

very delayed. She is as obstinate as a mule oftentimes. Is the fact that she

doesn't speak well and won't cooperate making her seem more retarded then she

is? I think so. My dilemma is the special ed teacher is more progressive and

just a better teacher then the regular teacher that Amelia would get if I took

her out of special ed. So I keep her in special ed wondering if I am doing her

a disservice? A few weeks ago someone in this group had an adult daughter with

ds and he seemed to be suggesting that the added help that they get in special

ed translates into better performance with regard to reading and math skills.

He also said that they don't care to hang out with their typical peers as much

as they get older and I have already seen this with Amelia. She is in a before

and after school program (all typical kids) that she has attended since the age

of two (initially as a preschool setting) and

> she could care less about the other kids. She always plays on her own and

this even with the other kids trying to get her to play with them. Even after

three years some of the more persistent kids will try to get her to play with

them. Not interested. The only exception to her lack of interest in her

typical peers is a friendship she has with two children who are serious behavior

problems (by typical preschool standards.) These two kids have behaviors I'd

just as soon do without. Amelia will play with them for a limited time if they

pursue it, but doesn't appear phased if they don't. Amelia's four year old

brother is her best buddy and she'd be content to hang with no one but him. So

after this ridiculously long message I am wondering what to do. Is a self

contained class bad for a child with Down Syndrome? I just don't know what to

do. Story of my life, especially since I had kids.

>

> Ann mother to Amelia (ds 5) and Jake.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

To add to 's email, we were told school systems have big insurance

against losing due processes, so in the end (up to a certain dollar amount),

the school systems are covered by their insurance. Our school district paid

$255,000 to lose to us in our due process, but I don't know if they actually

paid a dime or not. I can only hope their premium went up as a result of

that foolishness. I feel incredulous when I think back to how little we

were actually asking for. Our daughter was in K and 1st grade when we went

through the dp and I still remember one day in one of our many,many IEP

meetings I actually asked the dir of spec ed if she would just try to

include our daughter for " two weeks, " and if didn't work, then we'd agree to

a change. Ha! We sure wouldn't now. 's in 4th grade and still fully

included and doing well.

Eleanor

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of

Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:51 AM

; Loree5@...

Subject: Re: (no subject)

Loree,

I just read a really interesting article on the positive side of inclusion.

In it, it told of several families who had filed suits to have their child

educated even at a boarding school across country. The parents were

winning the majority of these cases and it was costing the school ditsricts

in the hundreds of thousands after they got done with the battles.

And if they had just done the proper job of including them in their home

school in the first place.. Think how much money they would have saved. LOL

" Attitudes are Contageous. Is YOURS worth catching? "

[Guest guest]

Interestingly, our school district spent a lot of time being intimidating

and nasty and sneaky and conniving and then, 3 days before our due process

they said, let's Sit down and talk, and they ended up giving us everything

that we asked for. Now granted, we didn't ask for a lot, now that I look

back, I wish I had asked for a lot more. Not a lot of fluff, but a lot more

supports that would have made it easier along the road for all involved.

It's not the easy way to go, very emotionally draining, but the school

districts are so used to being able to intimidate parents, it was nice to be

able to get what Maverick was legally entitled to.

" Attitudes are Contageous. Is YOURS worth catching? "

[Guest guest]

When had her surgery, the worst time for her was about a week after

surgery. She developed a cough, and wouldn't eat or drink. The doctor said it

was the surgical site " scabbing " over somewhat, and perfectly natural, gave her

a steroid concoction to drink, and she was fine.

Is he eating, drinking? If he isn't even swallowing saliva, it might be worth a

call to the doctor Monday.

Sharon H.

Mom to , (14, DS) and , (10)

South Carolina

(no subject)

Micah had his tonsils and sdenoids along with tubes taken out and reinserted

on Monday. He still is in quite a bit of pain and will actually hold his

spit in his mouth and not talk. Is this still normal for 6 days after

surgery?

I don't know whethter to send him back to school on Monday or not.

Loree

[Guest guest]

Loree:

I'm not sure about the first time Nick had the surgery to put tubes in as

the doctor didn't mention fluid, just how difficult it was to get the tubes in

(had to use the smallest tubes, and alligator and then drop the tubes in and

adjust their position with the alligator). The second time he had the

surgery, the ENT came out 5 minutes later (which surprised me given the first

surgery lasting almost an hour) and told me that tubes weren't necessary as

there

was no fluid in the ears. In fact, he decided Nick had collapsible ear

canals, which I agree totally with as I have seen the kid close off his ear

canals

at will! So, can't say if 'the mask blew the fluid out' or not as the ENT

didn't mention that possibility but will mention the possibility of

collapsible ear canals.

Cari

[Guest guest]

Loree, been wondering about you and Micah. How is he? We go the 26th. I

hated hearing he was hurting.praying hes doing well now.

(no subject)

Hi everyone, just a quick question. When Micah had his tubes taken out

and

re-done again two weeks ago, I was once again told that he had no fluid

in

his drums when they got in there. She said she thought the gas mask

blew the

fluid out. Has anyone ever heard of this?. The first time I didn't

think to

much about it, but now I wonder if he had fluid in there to begin with.

Thanks in advance for any info anyone has. Oh and a Happy mothers day

to all

you hard working, fun loving moms out there

Loree

[Guest guest]

For anyone that is interested. The film " the teachings of Jon " that is

airing on public television is also for sale. I just ordered it because

they are

not airing the show in my area of New York. At least they haven't aired

it

or posted it to be shown yet. Just thought others might be interested.

It's me again. I just found out it will be airing on July 16th at 12:00

noon. I can't wait that long to see it anyway lol!

Loree

[Guest guest]

For anyone that is interested. The film " the teachings of Jon " that is

airing on public television is also for sale. I just ordered it because

they are

not airing the show in my area of New York. At least they haven't aired

it

or posted it to be shown yet. Just thought others might be interested.

It's me again. I just found out it will be airing on July 16th at 12:00

noon. I can't wait that long to see it anyway lol!

Loree

[Guest guest]

Hi

I agree there is a lot of stupidity out there, especially among people who

believe that Down syndrome is a disease and not a disorder, something you can

catch or pass on. I went round and round with a guy at my church last fall

until he finally gave up and decided it wasn't worth fighting about at church.

Anyway, our Kristi has been the healthiest of our three with Down syndrome.

Rarely sees the doctor, in fact the local pediatrician didn't even know her the

last time I brought her in and thought and I had adopted a new child!

Kristi will be 16 on Friday. She is starting to have a few problems and sees

the same behavior specialist that and see.

is fairly healthy, a little trouble with his sugar and thyroid and he

has been plagued by croup since he was a baby. Some pretty scary nights with

that croup even after he got older. He still gets in when there is a change in

the weather, etc. He will be 17 on Easter Sunday.

has at least 13 different diagnoses at last count and sees about 8

different clinics at Childrens Hospital in KC. His most recent, the ulcer,

seems to be healing ok. He had heart surgery at 15 months and sailed through

that VSD repair, with only a heart murmur today. But he has arthritis,

psorasis, Tourettes, sleep apnea, chronic blocked tear duct and a host of other

problems. Still he is very active and never complains. He will be 15 on Feb.

9.

has Cri du chat syndrome, which is a disorder of the fifth chromosone,

much different than Down syndrome. has lots of behavior and neurological

diagnoses and takes five kinds of medications. He is severely delayed and goes

to state school.

is also our most advanced child. He reads well, writes well, has an

unbelievable imagination and loves history, the Bible, and science. has

a fantastic memory. All three of our kids with Down syndrome are actively

involved in school, church, and the community and participate in the county

fair, 4H, scouting, music lessons, Special Olympics, church and high school

choir, and othe projects which are a full time job in themselves!

Dad to , Kristi, and (Down syndrome) and (Cri du chat)

Husband to C. in Mo.

Uncle Daddy to and in California (Both Down syndrome and two

talented, brilliant personable little girls)

Sister in Law to in California

JB66111@... wrote:

Have you noticed that older individuals with DS are usually pretty

healthy? You know why? Because if they had been born with heart problems and

other things that are treated now, they wouldn't have survived. We were lucky

when was born 42 years ago, well in many ways, but he was full term,

weighed 8 and half pounds and was very healthy. Never had pneumonia, even

colds, good tonsils and even no heart abnormalities or those kind of problems.

They didn't believe that these kids would survive surgeries, and of course some

of these treatments had not been developed then. If they had we wouldn't

have been told about them. They never even thought of doing it.

In fact, only 5 or 6 years ago had a ventral hernia and the

first surgeon we saw said that " these people " did not heal well enough to have

surgery. Never saw that guy again, wouldn't have let him touch with a

10 foot pole. He also scared R. by telling him he would have to quit eating.

He was heavier at that time partly because of the hernia. We took him to

another surgeon, who did the surgery very successfully. He found a huge ball

of fat that had oozed out of the hernia opening over many years, possibly si

nce birth. No wonder he looked pregnant. He has lost of lot of weight since

then and feels much better. What a difference in attitude between doctors.

Incidentallly, had surgery on both hips, as they were

dislocated. It was a big long ordeal but he handled it well (better than I did)

and

healed just fine. It did leave him unable to walk but the pain was

relieved. I told that first surgeon that but he didn't want to hear it.

Now has been walking with his walker up and down the hall here many

times a day and evening to keep his legs functional. He has done this

himself, sometimes I tell him to stop awhile.. His legs are uneven in length and

he

doesn't have a functional walk without the walker or crutches, but he healed

beautifully from the surgery, in spite of what that stupid doctor said.

There is still a lot of stupidity out there, so be careful. Jessie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/4/2007 11:43:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, Loree5 writes:

Okay guys this is so totally off any topic about Down Syndrome but I know

you guys can help. My son was invited to a Bar Mitzvah and he is suppoise to

go to a very fancy restaurant after the service. He is 11 years old. How do

they work this. Will he sit with his friends and Bar Mitzvah boy or what??

He is so young to let go alone. I kind of worry about him. Is this the way

it is worked. Is this kind of like a wedding or a party?? Whast is the best

gift? Money?? (Everyone loves money especially 13 year old boys ;lol!!)

Thanks for your input gyuys this is Caleb's first Bar Mitzvah and his mom is a

t a loss.

Loree

[Guest guest]

Loree,

Bar Mitzvah is a little like a wedding. I would not worry about your son

being in a fancy restaurant, there will be several other boys and parent

there to help keep order. He will sit with the other boys there, most

likely.

About a gift, money is an appropriate gift, savings bonds were the big thing

when I was young because they matured when you turned 19 or 20 and needed

the money the most. (I cashed mine in to pay for the first semester of

junior college.) I don't know if you can still get them? Pen and pencil

sets are a common gift item for this, too! Your son will have a good time.

Hope this helps!

Barb - Mom to , and Sam w/ds, wife to Mark

[Guest guest]

I am paying $10.00 for one child...is that Crazy???????????

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[Guest guest]

Kristi,

We live in Illinois

--

Sue mom to Kate 18 and Karrie 12 w/ds and mild autism

---- ekraft7@... wrote:

> Sue,

>

> Which state did you say you lived? Kristi

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

there are none that I am aware of. This is another reason why I want to start a

residential/respite care/day program here.

--

Sue mom to Kate 18 and Karrie 12 w/ds and mild autism

---- ekraft7@... wrote:

> Sue,

>

> So do you have developmental centers or community based programs that your

> daughter qualifies for?

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

's respite is funded by the state for 8.00 per hour. I supplement

that to bring it to $15/hour. I need someone who will stay with us for a

long time. His provider went through a week of training through our local

MH/MR agency.

Cari - we are also getting someone from town to come and help us with

. Can you tell me more about your experience?

Tim recently took to play golf (er..ride the cart). I'd love for

to take an interest in some sport.

--

cindysue@...

(no subject)

> ,

>

> I don't feel it is. I only pay $15.00 for 3 but, if only two stay home

> or

> one I still pay the same. I try and make it worth her while. She does a

> fantastic job and it's worth the peace of mind. All three of my boys are

> so

> different so depending on what is going on who stays or who goes. Coty

> works a

> lot so we don't need care for him quite often. Kristi

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Barb Fleming is who we have been dealing with up to this point.? She is supposed

to come back sometime in July (if their grant gets renewed).? She recommended I

read Children the Challenge and Parenting with Love and Logic.? (Not sure I

agree with all the points the books make but I can say I can see the

reasoning/logic behind their suggestions, not sure if they will totally work

with Nick though.)

I think right now the biggest issue Barb is trying to deal with is upping my

confidence level (Nick's behaviors have really taken a toll on my confidence).?

When Nick was little I could physically move him if need be, I can't now.?

Unfortunately, too many well-meaning people over the years have basically gotten

Nick to the point where he doesn't always listen to me (why should he when they

tell him it's okay and now I can't physically remove him from those

situations).? Add in the two little ones and I get over-whelmed quite easily.?

I'm torn between dealing with Nick and keeping the two little ones in line.?

Thankfully, they are getting to the point where I can tell them to stay put, go

to the car or what not so I can deal with Nick.? Unfortunately, even though he

is half my weight he is getting too strong for me to deal with physically and I

have to hope and pray he decides to do what I ask.? Often if I can only get him

removed from a situation I can get him calmed down enough to redirect;

unfortunately, when others try to reason with him (in I'm assuming an effort to

help) his behaviors escalate.? Barb's theory is he is a) getting attention (not

good attention, but attention) and he is escaping an undesireable situation.

A lot of what she is suggesting I know in my head, my problem is implementing in

the heat of the moment.? Of course, everytime she has come he's been on some of

his better behavior.

Cari

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's respite is funded by the state for 8.00 per hour. I supplement

that to bring it to $15/hour. I need someone who will stay with us for a

long time. His provider went through a week of training through our local

MH/MR agency.

Cari - we are also getting someone from town to come and help us with

. Can you tell me more about your experience?

Tim recently took to play golf (er..ride the cart). I'd love for

to take an interest in some sport.

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cindysue@...

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> ,

>

> I don't feel it is. I only pay $15.00 for 3 but, if only two stay home

> or

> one I still pay the same. I try and make it worth her while. She does a

> fantastic job and it's worth the peace of mind. All three of my boys are

> so

> different so depending on what is going on who stays or who goes. Coty

> works a

> lot so we don't need care for him quite often. Kristi

>

>

>

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Mmmm…….. Wow that sounds totally refreshing!!! Thanks!

[Guest guest]

What is the difference between Sage and Clary Sage? How do they

>work?? Thanks,

Clary (salvia sclarea) is primarily used for 'female problems'....some

authorities say that it is a 'hormone balancer'...altho others say that's

not possible. Whether it is or not, it's been really useful for things

like pms, menopausal symptom, etc. Dalmatian Sage (salvia

officianalis) is strongly antibacterial, but is not a safe EO to use on a

regular or routine basis.

>P.S. Can anyone send me some good site with information on Essential

>Oils, like how they are used, warnings for them, ETC. Thanks in

>advance.

two noncommercial sites well worth checking out are aromaweb, at

www.aromaweb.com and Graham's " guide to aromatherapy " at

http://www.fragrant.demon.co.uk/index.html

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