Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 You mean like this? http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2005-10-23-bare-minimum-diet_x.htm Maco [ ] USA Print Edition There are several articles in today's print edition of USA TODAY about longevity in general and Calorie restriction. A whole series of articles is planned for this week on Longevity. Positive Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 You mean like this? http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2005-10-23-bare-minimum-diet_x.htm Maco [ ] USA Print Edition There are several articles in today's print edition of USA TODAY about longevity in general and Calorie restriction. A whole series of articles is planned for this week on Longevity. Positive Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Online also: http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2005-10-23-bare-minimum-diet_x.htm On 10/24/05, Dennis De Jarnette <positivedennis@...> wrote: There are several articles in today's print edition of USA TODAY aboutlongevity in general and Calorie restriction. A whole series of articles is planned for this week on Longevity.Positive Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Online also: http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2005-10-23-bare-minimum-diet_x.htm On 10/24/05, Dennis De Jarnette <positivedennis@...> wrote: There are several articles in today's print edition of USA TODAY aboutlongevity in general and Calorie restriction. A whole series of articles is planned for this week on Longevity.Positive Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 I have a feeling any math model that can be constructed is not going to allow for all the variables, like eg, CR may work better for someone whose parents lived to 75yo as opposed to 95yo. It may work better for men who live 10 yrs short of women. It may appear to work better for those whose families had CVD, diabetes, because it reduces mortality. But the mainest thing is, it's not that hard to do, and the opposite is an unproved paradigm, ie, that plump is healthy, that it's "proper" for us to get heavier as we age. Regards. [ ] USA Print Edition There are several articles in today's print edition of USA TODAY about longevity in general and Calorie restriction. A whole series of articles is planned for this week on Longevity.Positive Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 I have a feeling any math model that can be constructed is not going to allow for all the variables, like eg, CR may work better for someone whose parents lived to 75yo as opposed to 95yo. It may work better for men who live 10 yrs short of women. It may appear to work better for those whose families had CVD, diabetes, because it reduces mortality. But the mainest thing is, it's not that hard to do, and the opposite is an unproved paradigm, ie, that plump is healthy, that it's "proper" for us to get heavier as we age. Regards. [ ] USA Print Edition There are several articles in today's print edition of USA TODAY about longevity in general and Calorie restriction. A whole series of articles is planned for this week on Longevity.Positive Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 jwwright wrote: I have a feeling any math model that can be constructed is not going to allow for all the variables, like eg, CR may work better for someone whose parents lived to 75yo as opposed to 95yo. It may work better for men who live 10 yrs short of women. It may appear to work better for those whose families had CVD, diabetes, because it reduces mortality. But the mainest thing is, it's not that hard to do, and the opposite is an unproved paradigm, ie, that plump is healthy, that it's "proper" for us to get heavier as we age. Regards. While the article poo-poed (I just love that word) CR. It is interesting to me that it hyped mini CR ( which for the average american would result in being quite thin). Also the article said that the diet would not extend life beyond 120. (This is a classic straw man argument) It also stated that the life extension would only be 5 years, as if that was terrible. ly If I thought I could get an extra 5 years (i'm 50) and improve my health in the meanwhile I would do it, I wonder what I am waiting for! Positive Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 jwwright wrote: I have a feeling any math model that can be constructed is not going to allow for all the variables, like eg, CR may work better for someone whose parents lived to 75yo as opposed to 95yo. It may work better for men who live 10 yrs short of women. It may appear to work better for those whose families had CVD, diabetes, because it reduces mortality. But the mainest thing is, it's not that hard to do, and the opposite is an unproved paradigm, ie, that plump is healthy, that it's "proper" for us to get heavier as we age. Regards. While the article poo-poed (I just love that word) CR. It is interesting to me that it hyped mini CR ( which for the average american would result in being quite thin). Also the article said that the diet would not extend life beyond 120. (This is a classic straw man argument) It also stated that the life extension would only be 5 years, as if that was terrible. ly If I thought I could get an extra 5 years (i'm 50) and improve my health in the meanwhile I would do it, I wonder what I am waiting for! Positive Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 It was a singularly shallowly researched and uninformative article, imo--a fine and upstanding example of typical USA Today "journalism." You had the one-mouse freak show and then the fair-and-balanced naysayer with nothing beyond his "model" to back up his claim, despite [unmentioned] CR/longevity corroboration from every species up into the primates. "Uninformed and Uninformative" . . . maybe that can be their "All the News That's Fit to Print." Maco Re: [ ] USA Print Edition I have a feeling any math model that can be constructed is not going to allow for all the variables, like eg, CR may work better for someone whose parents lived to 75yo as opposed to 95yo. It may work better for men who live 10 yrs short of women. It may appear to work better for those whose families had CVD, diabetes, because it reduces mortality. But the mainest thing is, it's not that hard to do, and the opposite is an unproved paradigm, ie, that plump is healthy, that it's "proper" for us to get heavier as we age. Regards. [ ] USA Print Edition There are several articles in today's print edition of USA TODAY about longevity in general and Calorie restriction. A whole series of articles is planned for this week on Longevity.Positive Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 It was a singularly shallowly researched and uninformative article, imo--a fine and upstanding example of typical USA Today "journalism." You had the one-mouse freak show and then the fair-and-balanced naysayer with nothing beyond his "model" to back up his claim, despite [unmentioned] CR/longevity corroboration from every species up into the primates. "Uninformed and Uninformative" . . . maybe that can be their "All the News That's Fit to Print." Maco Re: [ ] USA Print Edition I have a feeling any math model that can be constructed is not going to allow for all the variables, like eg, CR may work better for someone whose parents lived to 75yo as opposed to 95yo. It may work better for men who live 10 yrs short of women. It may appear to work better for those whose families had CVD, diabetes, because it reduces mortality. But the mainest thing is, it's not that hard to do, and the opposite is an unproved paradigm, ie, that plump is healthy, that it's "proper" for us to get heavier as we age. Regards. [ ] USA Print Edition There are several articles in today's print edition of USA TODAY about longevity in general and Calorie restriction. A whole series of articles is planned for this week on Longevity.Positive Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Hi Folks: Gosh am I impressed. Here is Mr. (Dr.? I doubt it) Phelan, who says he has a nice little mathematical formula that will predict, given just details of your diet, how long you will live. Pretty original; worth fame in his profession I would think; perhaps a Nobel prize. IF IT WORKS. So, Mr. Phelan what EVIDENCE do you have that it works? For a start it will take fifty or more years for you to get empirical evidence to demonstrate that it works. So how many years have you been working on it so far? Given some persuasive evidence I am prepared to change my mind. My guess is that his other faculty members are gonna be laughing behind his back about this. Rodney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Hi Folks: Gosh am I impressed. Here is Mr. (Dr.? I doubt it) Phelan, who says he has a nice little mathematical formula that will predict, given just details of your diet, how long you will live. Pretty original; worth fame in his profession I would think; perhaps a Nobel prize. IF IT WORKS. So, Mr. Phelan what EVIDENCE do you have that it works? For a start it will take fifty or more years for you to get empirical evidence to demonstrate that it works. So how many years have you been working on it so far? Given some persuasive evidence I am prepared to change my mind. My guess is that his other faculty members are gonna be laughing behind his back about this. Rodney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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