Re: CR and Muscle Mass

[Guest guest]

Hi CB:

Pretty much everyone transitioning from a conventional weight to a CR

weight loses lean body mass as well as fat, simply because the body

recognizes it no longer needs the strength to cart so much weight

around.

The easiest way to put on muscle would almost certainly be to eat a

lot more. You will add a lot of weight most of which will likely be

muscle and bone, with some additional fat also.

Tony here has a formula from which you can estimate approximately how

much will be fat and how much lean body mass.

Presumably training with weights would also help accumulate muscle

and bone.

Are you sure you want to do this? Why do think you need more

muscle? It may simply be that you are eating too few calories, and

also, incidentally, because of that, running deficiencies in some

important nutrients. Have you entered everything you eat for a month

into nutritional analysis software to see if you have deficiencies?

If you haven't I urge you to do so before you do anything else.

Rodney.

--- In , " cockybrit " <cockybrit@h...>

wrote:

> Hello - I am new and have a few questions.

>

> Has anyone had any success with CR and maintaining muscle mass, or

> more specifically putting on muscle mass.

>

> I am very lean - 6'1 155lbs and I want to put on about 15 lbs of

> muscle.

>

> Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.

>

> CB

[Guest guest]

Hi CB:

Pretty much everyone transitioning from a conventional weight to a CR

weight loses lean body mass as well as fat, simply because the body

recognizes it no longer needs the strength to cart so much weight

around.

The easiest way to put on muscle would almost certainly be to eat a

lot more. You will add a lot of weight most of which will likely be

muscle and bone, with some additional fat also.

Tony here has a formula from which you can estimate approximately how

much will be fat and how much lean body mass.

Presumably training with weights would also help accumulate muscle

and bone.

Are you sure you want to do this? Why do think you need more

muscle? It may simply be that you are eating too few calories, and

also, incidentally, because of that, running deficiencies in some

important nutrients. Have you entered everything you eat for a month

into nutritional analysis software to see if you have deficiencies?

If you haven't I urge you to do so before you do anything else.

Rodney.

--- In , " cockybrit " <cockybrit@h...>

wrote:

> Hello - I am new and have a few questions.

>

> Has anyone had any success with CR and maintaining muscle mass, or

> more specifically putting on muscle mass.

>

> I am very lean - 6'1 155lbs and I want to put on about 15 lbs of

> muscle.

>

> Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.

>

> CB

[Guest guest]

--Also, per an article that Al posted recently to the main CR list, you'd probably be better off with alternate-day fasting/alternate-day ad lib eating, which has similar or superior effects to straight restriction without the necessarily associated weight loss (i.e., maybe you could gain some lean mass) but with the same fat percentage losses, etc.

Maco [ ] Re: CR and Muscle Mass Hi CB:Pretty much everyone transitioning from a conventional weight to a CR weight loses lean body mass as well as fat, simply because the body recognizes it no longer needs the strength to cart so much weight around.The easiest way to put on muscle would almost certainly be to eat a lot more. You will add a lot of weight most of which will likely be muscle and bone, with some additional fat also.Tony here has a formula from which you can estimate approximately how much will be fat and how much lean body mass.Presumably training with weights would also help accumulate muscle and bone.Are you sure you want to do this? Why do think you need more muscle? It may simply be that you are eating too few calories, and also, incidentally, because of that, running deficiencies in some important nutrients. Have you entered everything you eat for a month into nutritional analysis software to see if you have deficiencies? If you haven't I urge you to do so before you do anything else. Rodney.> Hello - I am new and have a few questions.> > Has anyone had any success with CR and maintaining muscle mass, or > more specifically putting on muscle mass.> > I am very lean - 6'1 155lbs and I want to put on about 15 lbs of > muscle.> > Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.> > CB

[Guest guest]

--Also, per an article that Al posted recently to the main CR list, you'd probably be better off with alternate-day fasting/alternate-day ad lib eating, which has similar or superior effects to straight restriction without the necessarily associated weight loss (i.e., maybe you could gain some lean mass) but with the same fat percentage losses, etc.

Maco [ ] Re: CR and Muscle Mass Hi CB:Pretty much everyone transitioning from a conventional weight to a CR weight loses lean body mass as well as fat, simply because the body recognizes it no longer needs the strength to cart so much weight around.The easiest way to put on muscle would almost certainly be to eat a lot more. You will add a lot of weight most of which will likely be muscle and bone, with some additional fat also.Tony here has a formula from which you can estimate approximately how much will be fat and how much lean body mass.Presumably training with weights would also help accumulate muscle and bone.Are you sure you want to do this? Why do think you need more muscle? It may simply be that you are eating too few calories, and also, incidentally, because of that, running deficiencies in some important nutrients. Have you entered everything you eat for a month into nutritional analysis software to see if you have deficiencies? If you haven't I urge you to do so before you do anything else. Rodney.> Hello - I am new and have a few questions.> > Has anyone had any success with CR and maintaining muscle mass, or > more specifically putting on muscle mass.> > I am very lean - 6'1 155lbs and I want to put on about 15 lbs of > muscle.> > Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.> > CB

[Guest guest]

CB,

Very difficult to gain muscle while losing weight but it's not

impossible. 15lbs gain on a 155lb frame thjough is stretching it a

bit. I don't think that is possible unless you are genetically gifted

mesomorph.

In any event gain of muscle IS possible all the while losing fat

tissue. Vigorous heavy resistance training with careful attention to

recovery is necessary to shift the balance in your favor. Too much

exercise and you will not get results, as with too little.

Do you have experience with resistance training? Twice per week with 3

or 4 days off (recovery) between is probably a good start. The body

will sense the additional physical demand and adapt accordingly. A

good rough way to gauge if you are gaining muscle is that you should

be getting stronger on the exercises. Not necessarily each and every

workout but at least every couple of weeks or so.

By strength I refer to additional weight added or # of reps. Machines

(Nautilus is one classic example) is a good way to start. A good

muscle building protocol is pick a resistance on each exercise that

you can get only 8 or 9 reps before reaching momentary muscular

failure. Stick with that level of resistance till you can get 12 reps

then add snall increment of weight. You will be continually

progressing safely this way. And again STRENGTH is your best gauge of

muscle mass addition. If you are not getting stronger slowly over time

chances are you are not adding muscle either.

Once again, 15 lbs on 155 is a stretch but 5+ is not out of the

question (even while doing CRON).

Does this help?

> Hello - I am new and have a few questions.

>

> Has anyone had any success with CR and maintaining muscle mass, or

> more specifically putting on muscle mass.

>

> I am very lean - 6'1 155lbs and I want to put on about 15 lbs of

> muscle.

>

> Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.

>

> CB

[Guest guest]

CB,

Very difficult to gain muscle while losing weight but it's not

impossible. 15lbs gain on a 155lb frame thjough is stretching it a

bit. I don't think that is possible unless you are genetically gifted

mesomorph.

In any event gain of muscle IS possible all the while losing fat

tissue. Vigorous heavy resistance training with careful attention to

recovery is necessary to shift the balance in your favor. Too much

exercise and you will not get results, as with too little.

Do you have experience with resistance training? Twice per week with 3

or 4 days off (recovery) between is probably a good start. The body

will sense the additional physical demand and adapt accordingly. A

good rough way to gauge if you are gaining muscle is that you should

be getting stronger on the exercises. Not necessarily each and every

workout but at least every couple of weeks or so.

By strength I refer to additional weight added or # of reps. Machines

(Nautilus is one classic example) is a good way to start. A good

muscle building protocol is pick a resistance on each exercise that

you can get only 8 or 9 reps before reaching momentary muscular

failure. Stick with that level of resistance till you can get 12 reps

then add snall increment of weight. You will be continually

progressing safely this way. And again STRENGTH is your best gauge of

muscle mass addition. If you are not getting stronger slowly over time

chances are you are not adding muscle either.

Once again, 15 lbs on 155 is a stretch but 5+ is not out of the

question (even while doing CRON).

Does this help?

> Hello - I am new and have a few questions.

>

> Has anyone had any success with CR and maintaining muscle mass, or

> more specifically putting on muscle mass.

>

> I am very lean - 6'1 155lbs and I want to put on about 15 lbs of

> muscle.

>

> Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.

>

> CB