Re: Re: Starch, Monounsaturated Fats and Prostate Cancer

[Guest guest]

Fruit in general has a low to medium glycemic index,

but more importantly they have a very low glycemic

load.

It is explained well here:

http://www.mendosa.com/gilists.htm

It also has a list of fruits and their associated GI

and GL.

The one thing I do not think is too good is to drink

fruit juices.

Eat up,

C

--- Rodney <perspect1111@...> wrote:

> Hi Christian:

>

>

> Not many people here recommend avoiding fruits

> generally. Nor have I

> seen any data relating to the fructose content of

> various fruits as a

> way of deciding which fruits are preferable.

> Although I have come to

> the conclusion that berries are probably far

> preferable to the fruits

> one comes across most frequently in grocery stores.

>

> Do you see where I am coming from?

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http://calorierestrictionexperiment.blogspot.com/

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[Guest guest]

At 04:41 PM 4/19/2006, you wrote:

>Contrary to its name, HFCS is not high?in fructose. At

>the time HFCS was developed, the only sweetener in all

>other corn syrups was glucose; none contained

>fructose. So the name " high " fructose corn syrup, in

>comparative terms, makes sense and is entirely

>appropriate. But when compared to table sugar

>(sucrose), HFCS is not at all " high " in fructose. In

>fact, HFCS is nearly identical in composition to table

>sugar (sucrose), which is composed of 50 percent

>fructose and 50 percent glucose.

Sucrose is a molecule that is composed of a bonded fructose and

glucose. HFCS is similar to a product called " invert sugar " . If you

chemically process sucrose, you can break the molecule in half, so you

get a solution of 50% fructose and 50% glucose. It's called " invert "

because the optical rotation of invert sugar is in the opposite direction

of sucrose. (Optical rotation is an observable consequence of the

chirality, or handedness, of the molecule.) Invert sugar is sweeter than

the sucrose it was made from because fructose is sweeter than sucrose by

weight.

Agave nectar is a natural product that has a similar composition

to HFCS.

I doubt that HFCS is any more toxic than any other sugar. I think

it's dangerous because it's cheap. It's not hard to drink 800 calories of

coke a day.

[Guest guest]

At 04:41 PM 4/19/2006, you wrote:

>Contrary to its name, HFCS is not high?in fructose. At

>the time HFCS was developed, the only sweetener in all

>other corn syrups was glucose; none contained

>fructose. So the name " high " fructose corn syrup, in

>comparative terms, makes sense and is entirely

>appropriate. But when compared to table sugar

>(sucrose), HFCS is not at all " high " in fructose. In

>fact, HFCS is nearly identical in composition to table

>sugar (sucrose), which is composed of 50 percent

>fructose and 50 percent glucose.

Sucrose is a molecule that is composed of a bonded fructose and

glucose. HFCS is similar to a product called " invert sugar " . If you

chemically process sucrose, you can break the molecule in half, so you

get a solution of 50% fructose and 50% glucose. It's called " invert "

because the optical rotation of invert sugar is in the opposite direction

of sucrose. (Optical rotation is an observable consequence of the

chirality, or handedness, of the molecule.) Invert sugar is sweeter than

the sucrose it was made from because fructose is sweeter than sucrose by

weight.

Agave nectar is a natural product that has a similar composition

to HFCS.

I doubt that HFCS is any more toxic than any other sugar. I think

it's dangerous because it's cheap. It's not hard to drink 800 calories of

coke a day.

[Guest guest]

Trying to find a way to specifically define these things.

When I eat sugar, I'm eating sucrose.

Sugar is digested into fructose and glucose.

This is an important difference, because everyone might not have the same enzymes.

HFCS is already "digested", right? So when I eat it. I'm eating fructose and glucose, both of which can be absorbed without digestion. Maybe even in the mouth.

So what happens to sucrose if it's not digested? Probably goes into fecal waste? That's important - some people can eat a lot of sucrose and not get fat. And that would vary glucose testing, and makes glycemic index imperfect.

It's these little misunderstandings that makes it hard to understand the body's systems.

They use corn syrup in old people formulas due to possible lack of digestive enzymes.

We used to use corn syrup, the old kind, in baby formula.

With those facts in mind is there anything we can glean from the association with PCa?

Billions of people (in Asia) eat rice and they have the lowest levels of PCa.

But they also might not eat as much sugar or HFCS?

Regards.

Re: [ ] Re: Starch, Monounsaturated Fats and Prostate Cancer

Sucrose is a molecule that is composed of a bonded fructose and glucose. HFCS is similar to a product called "invert sugar". If you chemically process sucrose, you can break the molecule in half, so you get a solution of 50% fructose and 50% glucose. It's called "invert" because the optical rotation of invert sugar is in the opposite direction of sucrose. (Optical rotation is an observable consequence of the chirality, or handedness, of the molecule.) Invert sugar is sweeter than the sucrose it was made from because fructose is sweeter than sucrose by weight. Agave nectar is a natural product that has a similar composition to HFCS. I doubt that HFCS is any more toxic than any other sugar. I think it's dangerous because it's cheap. It's not hard to drink 800 calories of coke a day.

[Guest guest]

Trying to find a way to specifically define these things.

When I eat sugar, I'm eating sucrose.

Sugar is digested into fructose and glucose.

This is an important difference, because everyone might not have the same enzymes.

HFCS is already "digested", right? So when I eat it. I'm eating fructose and glucose, both of which can be absorbed without digestion. Maybe even in the mouth.

So what happens to sucrose if it's not digested? Probably goes into fecal waste? That's important - some people can eat a lot of sucrose and not get fat. And that would vary glucose testing, and makes glycemic index imperfect.

It's these little misunderstandings that makes it hard to understand the body's systems.

They use corn syrup in old people formulas due to possible lack of digestive enzymes.

We used to use corn syrup, the old kind, in baby formula.

With those facts in mind is there anything we can glean from the association with PCa?

Billions of people (in Asia) eat rice and they have the lowest levels of PCa.

But they also might not eat as much sugar or HFCS?

Regards.

Re: [ ] Re: Starch, Monounsaturated Fats and Prostate Cancer

Sucrose is a molecule that is composed of a bonded fructose and glucose. HFCS is similar to a product called "invert sugar". If you chemically process sucrose, you can break the molecule in half, so you get a solution of 50% fructose and 50% glucose. It's called "invert" because the optical rotation of invert sugar is in the opposite direction of sucrose. (Optical rotation is an observable consequence of the chirality, or handedness, of the molecule.) Invert sugar is sweeter than the sucrose it was made from because fructose is sweeter than sucrose by weight. Agave nectar is a natural product that has a similar composition to HFCS. I doubt that HFCS is any more toxic than any other sugar. I think it's dangerous because it's cheap. It's not hard to drink 800 calories of coke a day.