Re: Re: Incidence of High Blood Pressure

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For example, Rodney, I can measure mine and several others at varying ages and pretty well guess who has it and does not have the gene or whatever.

My wife will be 111/67 age 68, while mine treated for 15yrs, will be 135/85. She's more overweight than I and can eat anything she wants most of the time. I found another HTNer in our Turkey day dinner, not a relative. A smoker/drinker has lost 35#, 65yo, been HTNsive for a while just ignored it. Now he's low sodium, low fat, and walks, etc. Takes a medication.

Of the other maybe 20 there, my oldest son registered 135/87, a 145#, smoker/drinker, eats whatever he wants. He's HTNsive even though he hasn't been diagnosed at >140/90 yet, age 48. His 46 yo bro, weightlifter at 215#, registered 111/76. Notice the 76. He might very well be HTNsive in 10 yrs, and he watches it.

The problem as I see it, is that the diagnosis early on, say at 120/76, might get people on the right track of diet and exercise, and possibly delay reaching the official treatable level of 140/90.

Losing weight does not cure HTN, but gives it a lower "set point" - requires less medication.

Regards.

[ ] Re: Incidence of High Blood Pressure

Hi folks:This is an even more remarkable statistic than apparent superficially. What proportion of the population these days still has unmedicated normal blood pressure at age 60? I don't know the answer. But if it is 50% then only 10% of the other 50% - i.e. only 5% of the population - does not end up with hypertension. So what are the distinguishing characteristics of that 5%?Anyone know? I sure hope someone has studied this. And I sure hope it is the CRers!Rodney.>> Hi folks:> > The following is from the NHLBI Health Information Center:> > " "Study investigators recently reported the lifetime risk of > hypertension to be approximately 90 percent for men and women who > were nonhypertensive at 55 or 65 years and survived to age 80-85. > Even after adjusting for competing mortality, the remaining lifetime > risks of hypertension were 86-90 percent in women and 81-83 percent > in men". > > The above quote was taken from page 8 in the PDF file of the Seventh > Report of the Joint National Committee on Prevention, Detection, > Evaluation, and Treatment of High Blood Pressure (JNC 7) on our web > page at:> > http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/hypertension/jnc7full.htm. > > That information was derived from the Framingham Heart Study. For > additional information from this study, you may view our web page at:> > http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/about/framingham/index.html. "> > I wonder if the same will apply to people on CRON at age 85?> > Perhaps JW's BP is simply a function of age?> > Rodney.>

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For example, Rodney, I can measure mine and several others at varying ages and pretty well guess who has it and does not have the gene or whatever.

My wife will be 111/67 age 68, while mine treated for 15yrs, will be 135/85. She's more overweight than I and can eat anything she wants most of the time. I found another HTNer in our Turkey day dinner, not a relative. A smoker/drinker has lost 35#, 65yo, been HTNsive for a while just ignored it. Now he's low sodium, low fat, and walks, etc. Takes a medication.

Of the other maybe 20 there, my oldest son registered 135/87, a 145#, smoker/drinker, eats whatever he wants. He's HTNsive even though he hasn't been diagnosed at >140/90 yet, age 48. His 46 yo bro, weightlifter at 215#, registered 111/76. Notice the 76. He might very well be HTNsive in 10 yrs, and he watches it.

The problem as I see it, is that the diagnosis early on, say at 120/76, might get people on the right track of diet and exercise, and possibly delay reaching the official treatable level of 140/90.

Losing weight does not cure HTN, but gives it a lower "set point" - requires less medication.

Regards.

[ ] Re: Incidence of High Blood Pressure

Hi folks:This is an even more remarkable statistic than apparent superficially. What proportion of the population these days still has unmedicated normal blood pressure at age 60? I don't know the answer. But if it is 50% then only 10% of the other 50% - i.e. only 5% of the population - does not end up with hypertension. So what are the distinguishing characteristics of that 5%?Anyone know? I sure hope someone has studied this. And I sure hope it is the CRers!Rodney.>> Hi folks:> > The following is from the NHLBI Health Information Center:> > " "Study investigators recently reported the lifetime risk of > hypertension to be approximately 90 percent for men and women who > were nonhypertensive at 55 or 65 years and survived to age 80-85. > Even after adjusting for competing mortality, the remaining lifetime > risks of hypertension were 86-90 percent in women and 81-83 percent > in men". > > The above quote was taken from page 8 in the PDF file of the Seventh > Report of the Joint National Committee on Prevention, Detection, > Evaluation, and Treatment of High Blood Pressure (JNC 7) on our web > page at:> > http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/hypertension/jnc7full.htm. > > That information was derived from the Framingham Heart Study. For > additional information from this study, you may view our web page at:> > http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/about/framingham/index.html. "> > I wonder if the same will apply to people on CRON at age 85?> > Perhaps JW's BP is simply a function of age?> > Rodney.>