RE: Storm the U.S. Supreme Court!

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I currently have a medical malpractice case underway involving my St. Jude Medical ICD. I got it in April, 2005. The only information I was given about the ICD was a booklet published by St. Jude Medical. It said if I got a shock I might feel a small thump in the chest or perhaps nothing. Well, in July, 2005 I was bicycle riding when my heart went into an arrhythmia and I got the bejesus shocked out of me. I fell over, fractured my skull, sustained a Traumatic Brain Injury, and was in a coma for about a month. I was unable to go back to my job and went on Social Security Disability. My lawyer said that an EP that went over my medical records concluded that my ICD did not deliver an inappropriate shock. But from the legal research I have done, the doctors who implanted the ICD and the hospital where it was done should have given me a list of precautions and

restrictions on activities. Heck, the doctors that implanted my ICD did not even register it with St. Jude Medical. So if there had been a problem with my ICD I never would have been notified. Plus the doctors said it was OK to resume driving just 2 weeks after being discharged from the hospital. From what I have since read I should not have been driving for 6-12 months after first getting my ICD. Has anyone else in the group had such troubles with their ICD or their EPs? Recovering from a brain injury is a very slow process and I want compensation. Joe Jon Duffey <duffey@...> wrote: I am just about ready to stroke out over the abominable ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court... protecting cardiac device makers from legal action. Let me make the point as succinctly as I can. I am really pissed legal opponents - those who supposedly were speaking on our behalf - never raised the issue (below in Blue) to the High (as in what the hell are they smoking?) Court. THIS will open the flood gates to every other manufacturer on the planet (in China as well as the u.S.) to get off the hook for foisting life threatening products on the public... just to pad profits. Next... expect BigPharma to take all those judgments against them to the "Lords of the Bench, Arbitrators Serving USA,

Inc." for exoneration and release from the penalties they still refuse to pay. Auto and truck makers will be next. Then household appliance makers.The ONLY thing for us to celebrate in this travesty is the money all those scheister lawyers robbed from complainants (the real victims of faulty stents, grafts, catheters, pacemakers, and yes... the item that most affects people on this forum... ICD's) will have to give back their bounty from unfair profiteering from a myriad of class action suits.Here is why this ruling is such a fecal laden insult to the American people: 8 of the 9 justices (Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg was the sole voice of dissent) said, "patients can't sue over products cleared for sale under the most intensive federal review process (by the F.D.A.)" And that argument is so morally and ethically corrupt because: Those who do the decision making at the Food and Drug Administration (and every other government department/agency) are NOT professionals looking after the best interest of the people of this country. They are POLITICAL APPOINTEES... who, in turn, put people in key positions who reflect the (pro-corporate profitability) policies of the current resident of the White House. So who fill those key positions? Former top corporate executives on leave of absence from the companies the FDA and other agencies regulate! This used to be against the law. Not now... as scoundrels who routinely complete their mission to get a specific product approved... then go back to work for their old company...

usually getting at least twice their original pay as a reward. These [expletives] force through approval of things like (the now proven dangerous) rBGH, Bovine Growth Hormone, to get them on the market... bypassing the formerly rigorous testing procedures and all the other steps that once protected the public. There is a reason this is not allowed in Europe. So... today, "government protections" are a [expletive] farce! No, they are more than that... jeopardizing public health and safety is not a joke. It is a crime! And now, thanks to the Highest Court in our country... killing and maiming people for profits is no longer illegal or punishable - it is condoned. If it happens, it's the fault of the FDA or agen! cy that cleared the product for sale... but

you can't sue them. The Supreme Court Justices have yet to enter the modern age and do not have e-mail addresses, but you can write to them at: Justice (or Chief Justice) (Justice's Full Name)Supreme Court of the United StatesOne First Street N.E.Washington, DC 20543 PLEASE... don't go to bed tonight until you have sent angry messages to (with one exception) each of these people on the throne who put corporate profits above the human life. G. , Jr., Chief Justice s, Associate JusticeAntonin Scalia, Associate

Justice M. Kennedy, Associate Justice Hackett Souter, Associate JusticeClarence , Associate Justice Breyer, Associate Justice Alito, Jr., Associate Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Associate Justice (the only justice who voted with a hint of sanity on this issue) I urge you to let her know we appreciate her being the ONLY voice of reason at SCOTUS.OK... I'm finished. Going to go take another xanax and go

for a walk before the storm arrives. Sorry... one final thought/dose of reality:If you sit on your fanny... and not use your time and energy to prevent the election of politicians who take their orders from company board rooms and will appoint judges to American courts that always subjugate human health and safety to profits... candidates who will protect you and me will NEVER get elected. Get involved... or accept travesties like this that will not just take the joy out of life - but put your life (and those of everyone you love and know) in jeopardy.Thanks and try to stay well....ZapDuff(or as one dear friend told called me the other day: Duffender of Living Things)

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yep due t the recall and the extended wait time before shock i passed out and sustained a concustion !!! and still have truoble wit my short trem memery !!! and my ep said it wouldent have happened if the device wasnt set for a longer wait time due to recall !!! also fractred my eblow as well ! they never warned me that bye increase wait time i could or would pass out !!! they said the increase wait time would be a safety feature ! hm stacie shocking life for shocking people!Joe <joeb2@...> wrote: I currently have a medical malpractice case underway involving my St. Jude Medical ICD. I got it in April, 2005. The only information I was given about the ICD was a booklet published by St. Jude Medical. It said if I got a shock I might feel a small thump in the chest or perhaps nothing. Well, in July, 2005 I was bicycle riding when my heart went into an arrhythmia and I got the bejesus shocked out of me. I fell over, fractured my skull, sustained a Traumatic Brain Injury, and was in a coma for about a month. I was unable to go back to my job and went on Social Security Disability. My lawyer said that an EP that went over my medical records concluded that my ICD did not deliver an inappropriate shock. But from the legal research I have done, the doctors who implanted the ICD and the hospital where it was done should have given me a list of

precautions and restrictions on activities. Heck, the doctors that implanted my ICD did not even register it with St. Jude Medical. So if there had been a problem with my ICD I never would have been notified. Plus the doctors said it was OK to resume driving just 2 weeks after being discharged from the hospital. From what I have since read I should not have been driving for 6-12 months after first getting my ICD. Has anyone else in the group had such troubles with their ICD or their EPs? Recovering from a brain injury is a very slow process and I want compensation. Joe Jon Duffey <duffeyduff (DOT) net> wrote: I am just about ready to stroke out over the abominable ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court... protecting

cardiac device makers from legal action. Let me make the point as succinctly as I can. I am really pissed legal opponents - those who supposedly were speaking on our behalf - never raised the issue (below in Blue) to the High (as in what the hell are they smoking?) Court. THIS will open the flood gates to every other manufacturer on the planet (in China as well as the u.S.) to get off the hook for foisting life threatening products on the public... just to pad profits. Next... expect BigPharma to take all those judgments against them to the "Lords of the Bench, Arbitrators Serving USA, Inc." for exoneration and release from the penalties they still refuse to pay. Auto and truck makers will be next. Then household appliance makers.The ONLY thing for us to celebrate in this travesty is the money all those scheister lawyers robbed from complainants (the real

victims of faulty stents, grafts, catheters, pacemakers, and yes... the item that most affects people on this forum... ICD's) will have to give back their bounty from unfair profiteering from a myriad of class action suits.Here is why this ruling is such a fecal laden insult to the American people: 8 of the 9 justices (Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg was the sole voice of dissent) said, "patients can't sue over products cleared for sale under the most intensive federal review process (by the F.D.A.)" And that argument is so morally and ethically corrupt because: Those who do the decision making at the Food and Drug Administration (and every other government

department/agency) are NOT professionals looking after the best interest of the people of this country. They are POLITICAL APPOINTEES... who, in turn, put people in key positions who reflect the (pro-corporate profitability) policies of the current resident of the White House. So who fill those key positions? Former top corporate executives on leave of absence from the companies the FDA and other agencies regulate! This used to be against the law. Not now... as scoundrels who routinely complete their mission to get a specific product approved... then go back to work for their old company... usually getting at least twice their original pay as a reward. These [expletives] force through approval of things like (the now proven dangerous) rBGH, Bovine Growth Hormone, to get them on the market... bypassing the formerly rigorous testing procedures and all the other steps that once

protected the public. There is a reason this is not allowed in Europe. So... today, "government protections" are a [expletive] farce! No, they are more than that... jeopardizing public health and safety is not a joke. It is a crime! And now, thanks to the Highest Court in our country... killing and maiming people for profits is no longer illegal or punishable - it is condoned. If it happens, it's the fault of the FDA or agen! cy that cleared the product for sale... but you can't sue them. The Supreme Court Justices have yet to enter the modern age and do not have e-mail addresses, but you can write to them at: Justice (or

Chief Justice) (Justice's Full Name)Supreme Court of the United StatesOne First Street N.E.Washington, DC 20543 PLEASE... don't go to bed tonight until you have sent angry messages to (with one exception) each of these people on the throne who put corporate profits above the human life. G. , Jr., Chief Justice s, Associate JusticeAntonin Scalia, Associate Justice M. Kennedy, Associate Justice Hackett Souter, Associate JusticeClarence , Associate Justice Breyer, Associate Justice Alito, Jr., Associate Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Associate Justice (the only justice who voted with a hint of sanity on this issue) I urge you to let her know we appreciate her being the ONLY voice of reason at SCOTUS.OK... I'm finished. Going to go take another xanax and go for a walk before the storm arrives. Sorry... one final thought/dose of reality:If you sit on your fanny... and not use your time and energy to prevent the election of politicians who take their orders from company board rooms and will appoint judges to American courts that

always subjugate human health and safety to profits... candidates who will protect you and me will NEVER get elected. Get involved... or accept travesties like this that will not just take the joy out of life - but put your life (and those of everyone you love and know) in jeopardy.Thanks and try to stay well....ZapDuff(or as one dear friend told called me the other day: Duffender of Living Things)

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The driving guidelines depend on why the

ICD was implanted. If it was implanted for primary prevention (people at risk

of SCD with no history of arrhythmia) then driving after 2 weeks is acceptable.

I think I was allowed to drive 4-5 days after implant. If it is implanted for

secondary prevention (people with history of arrhythmia or post cardiac arrest)

then you are not supposed to drive for 6 months.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Joe

Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008

12:25 PM

Subject: Re: Storm the U.S. Supreme

Court!

I currently have a medical malpractice case underway involving my St.

Jude Medical ICD. I got it in April, 2005. The only information I

was given about the ICD was a booklet published by St. Jude Medical. It

said if I got a shock I might feel a small thump in the chest or perhaps

nothing.

Well, in July, 2005 I was bicycle riding when my heart went into an

arrhythmia and I got the bejesus shocked out of me. I fell over,

fractured my skull, sustained a Traumatic Brain Injury, and was in a coma for

about a month. I was unable to go back to my job and went on Social

Security Disability.

My lawyer said that an EP that went over my medical records concluded

that my ICD did not deliver an inappropriate shock. But from the legal

research I have done, the doctors who implanted the ICD and the hospital where

it was done should have given me a list of precautions and restrictions on

activities. Heck, the doctors that implanted my ICD did not even register

it with St. Jude Medical. So if there had been a problem with my ICD I

never would have been notified. Plus the doctors said it was OK to resume

driving just 2 weeks after being discharged from the hospital. From what

I have since read I should not have been driving for 6-12 months after first

getting my ICD.

Has anyone else in the group had such troubles with their ICD or their

EPs? Recovering from a brain injury is a very slow process and I want

compensation.

Joe

Jon Duffey

<duffeyduff (DOT) net> wrote:

I am just about ready to stroke out over the abominable

ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court... protecting cardiac device maker Inc. "

for exoneration and release from the penalties they still refuse to pay. Auto

and truck makers will be next. Then household appliance makers.

The ONLY thing for us to celebrate in this travesty is the money all those

scheister lawyers robbed from complainants (the real victims of faulty stents, grafts,

catheters, pacemakers, and yes... the item that most affects people on this

forum... ICD's) will have to give back their bounty from unfair profiteering

from a myriad of class action suits.

Here is why this ruling is such a fecal laden

insult to the American people: 8 of the 9 justices (Justice

Ruth Bader Ginsberg was the sole voice of dissent) said, " patients can't sue over products cleared for sale under the

most intensive federal review process (by the F.D.A.It is a crime!

And now, thanks to the Highest Court in our country... killing

and maiming people for profits is no longer illegal or punishable - it is

condoned. If it happens, it's the fault of the FDA or agen! cy that

cleared the product for sale... but you can't sue them.

The Supreme Court Justices have yet to enter

the modern age and do not have e-mail addresses, but you can write to them at:

Justice (or Chief Justice) (Justice's Full Name)

Supreme Court of the United

States

One First Street N.E.

Washington, DC 20543

PLEASE... don't go to bed tonight until you

have sent angry messages to (with one exception) each of these people on the

throne who put corporate profits above the human life.

G. , Jr., Chief Justice

s, Associate Justice

Antonin Scalia, Associat Justice

M. Kennedy, Associate Justice

Hackett Souter, Associate Justice

Clarence , Associate Justice

Breyer, Associate Justice

Alito, Jr., Associate Justice

Ruth

Bader Ginsburg, Associate Justice (the only justice who voted

with a hint of sanity on this issue) I urge you to let her know we

appreciate her being the ONLY voice of reason at SCOTUS.

OK... I'm

finished. Going to go for a walk before the storm arrives. Sorry...

one final thought/dose of reality:

If you sit on your fanny... and not use your time and energy to prevent the

election of politicians who take their orders from company board rooms and will

appoint judges to American courts that always subjugate human health and safety

to profits... candidates who will protect you and me will NEVER get elected.

Get involved... or accept travesties like this that will not just take the joy

out of life - but put your life (and those of everyone you love and know) in

jeopardy.

Thanks and try to stay well....

ZapDuff

(or as one dear friend told called me the other day: Duffender of Living

Things)

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I think I would fall into the secondary prevention category. I was working out in the gym when I suffered a cardiac arrest. Fortunately they had a Automatic External Defibrillator on hand and people that knew how to use it. It gave me a shock and saved my life. Then at the hospital the EP did an EP Study on my heart and concluded that I needed an ICD. I got the ICD and two weeks after being discharged he said it was OK to start driving again. This same schnuck failed to register my ICD with St. Jude Medical. Joe Baker <laurarn@...> wrote: The driving guidelines depend on why the ICD was implanted. If it was implanted for primary prevention (people at risk of SCD with no history of arrhythmia) then driving after 2 weeks is acceptable. I think I was allowed to drive 4-5 days after implant. If it is implanted for secondary prevention (people with history of arrhythmia or post cardiac arrest) then you are not supposed to drive for 6 months. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of JoeSent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 12:25 PM Subject: Re: Storm

the U.S. Supreme Court! I currently have a medical malpractice case underway involving my St. Jude Medical ICD. I got it in April, 2005. The only information I was given about the ICD was a booklet published by St. Jude Medical. It said if I got a shock I might feel a small thump in the chest or perhaps nothing. Well, in July, 2005 I was bicycle riding when my heart went into

an arrhythmia and I got the bejesus shocked out of me. I fell over, fractured my skull, sustained a Traumatic Brain Injury, and was in a coma for about a month. I was unable to go back to my job and went on Social Security Disability. My lawyer said that an EP that went over my medical records concluded that my ICD did not deliver an inappropriate shock. But from the legal research I have done, the doctors who implanted the ICD and the hospital where it was done should have given me a list of precautions and restrictions on activities. Heck, the doctors that implanted my ICD did not even register it with St. Jude Medical. So if there had been a problem with my ICD I never would have been

notified. Plus the doctors said it was OK to resume driving just 2 weeks after being discharged from the hospital. From what I have since read I should not have been driving for 6-12 months after first getting my ICD. Has anyone else in the group had such troubles with their ICD or their EPs? Recovering from a brain injury is a very slow process and I want compensation. Joe Jon Duffey <duffeyduff (DOT) net> wrote: I am just about ready to stroke out over the abominable ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court... protecting cardiac device maker Inc." for exoneration and release from the penalties they still refuse to pay. Auto and truck makers will be next. Then household appliance makers.The ONLY thing for us to celebrate in this travesty is the money all those scheister lawyers robbed from complainants (the real victims of faulty stents, grafts, catheters, pacemakers, and yes... the item that most affects people on this forum... ICD's) will have to give back their bounty from unfair profiteering from a myriad of class action suits.Here is why this ruling is such a fecal laden insult to the American people: 8 of the 9 justices (Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg was the sole voice of dissent) said, "patients can't sue over products cleared for sale under the most intensive federal review process (by the F.D.A.It is a

crime! And now, thanks to the Highest Court in our country... killing and maiming people for profits is no longer illegal or punishable - it is condoned. If it happens, it's the fault of the FDA or agen! cy that cleared the product for sale... but you can't sue them. The Supreme Court Justices have yet to enter the modern age and do not have e-mail addresses, but you can write to them at: Justice (or Chief Justice) (Justice's Full

Name)Supreme Court of the United StatesOne First Street N.E.Washington, DC 20543 PLEASE... don't go to bed tonight until you have sent angry messages to (with one exception) each of these people on the throne who put corporate profits above the human life. G. , Jr., Chief Justice s, Associate JusticeAntonin Scalia, Associat Justice M. Kennedy, Associate Justice Hackett Souter, Associate JusticeClarence , Associate Justice Breyer, Associate Justice Alito, Jr., Associate Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Associate Justice (the only justice who voted with a hint of sanity on this issue) I urge you to let her know we appreciate her being the ONLY voice of reason at SCOTUS.OK... I'm finished. Going to go for a walk before the storm arrives. Sorry... one final thought/dose of reality:If you sit on your

fanny... and not use your time and energy to prevent the election of politicians who take their orders from company board rooms and will appoint judges to American courts that always subjugate human health and safety to profits... candidates who will protect you and me will NEVER get elected. Get involved... or accept travesties like this that will not just take the joy out of life - but put your life (and those of everyone you love and know) in jeopardy.Thanks and try to stay well....ZapDuff(or as one dear friend told called me the other day: Duffender of Living Things) __________ NOD32 2898 (20080223) Information

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Apologies for being so late on this one.

it is my understanding that this law is not a blanket amnesty for the medical providers in all instances. what it does do--if I am correct in this understanding--is remove liability for design errors that were approved by the gummint. Quality control within the parameters of what was approved) of those devices is still the responsibility of the manufacturer, and civil (and perhaps criminal) lawsuits by those affected. IMO that is probably a wise move on the part of the lawmakers because it places the burden of approval of the device's design on the government and the responsibility to make it according to those standards on the manufacturer.

However, I may be wrong in how I see the law as being written. I'm a husband. Being wrong is my natural state of being.

From California where the Sureme court is where diana Ross got her divorce.

Mahanaze

Storm the U.S. Supreme Court!

I am just about ready to stroke out over the abominable ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court... protecting cardiac device makers from legal action. . . .