Guest guest Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Hi folks: So, in brief: of course all these papers will need confirmation before we can come to confident conclusions, and that will take years. So just in case I have not made this entirely clear already, I am NOT making the above-mentioned changes to my diet because I am completely convinced they will be beneficial. It is conceivable that when we know a lot more we may come to realize Met restriction is harmful. Humans are not rats, for a start. I am making the changes because it is beginning to look like they may confer appreciable benefits and do not seem likely to result in harm. But we will not know for sure for a long time. Speaking for myself, and perhaps for some others here too, if the Met story turns out to be correct then there is a new perspective to be had. Previously I had been impressed with the CVD biomarker results in CRON humans, and the data for cancer deaths in CRON rats, and the insulin data as regards diabetes susceptibility, and also the overall life expectancy improvements apparent from the pursuit of CR in the animal experiments. But now, if we can avoid those issues, and it looks like many of us probably can, there is an entirely new 'Met- factor' which, it seems, may determine our **aging rate**. Some people look old at the age of 50. Others look youngish at age 70. Perhaps Met is a (the?) critical factor determining for each of us our aging rate and therefore potential maximum lifespan? So it seems we need to: A) AVOID CVD. AVOID CANCER. C) AVOID DIABETES. D) IMPROVE OUR IMMUNE RESPONSE E) ........................................ , AND ........ F) SLOW DOWN OUR AGING RATE (Met-factor?) That is a new perspective for me. Of course it may be wrong! As so many pieces of nutritional advice have turned out to be over the past century. One final perspective. It seems from the above that something that has for a VERY long time been considered a vital nutrient, Met, may be shortening people's lives. Among all the various essential nutrients we know about, for which there are published RDAs, many/most of us try to maximize our intake of these nutrients within our restricted daily allocation of calories. But are there other nutrients, in addition to Met, higher amounts of which are unhelpful? Is there reason to be confident that those we currently know about (Cr, Ca, Fe, Se, for example) are the only ones? Fifty years from now we will probably know. Here is a final thought. There is a very good reason to consume some animal foods because vitamin B12 is only available, as far as I know, in animal products (or supplements). But animal products also tend to contain relatively hefty amounts of Met. So, logically, for those who wish to satisfy their B12 requirement from an animal product of some kind, comparing foods by their ratios of Met/B12 would make a lot of sense. A high ratio indicates a lot of Met compared with B12, which would not be optimal, while a low ratio would be beneficial - the B12 requirement could be satisfied while consuming the smallest amount of Met. Consider three foods, beef liver, chicken breast and egg whites. Calculating the ratio as mg of Met to mcg of B12 here are the numbers: Beef liver: 9·2; chicken breast 1,598; egg white 4,845 (sic!). Food for thought? For additional information on Met Wikipedia is one source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methionine ======================= For anyone who has read this far, thank you! Correction of material errors in the above will be especially welcome. Rodney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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