Guest guest Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Hi everyone, I was looking up sodium nitrates for an article to post, and I came across that they actually say that Sodium Nitrate can help people with heart problems! I was like in shock! How could this be, I even heard that eating too much of it caused cancer. You know all those salty foods we love, like hot dogs, salami, Lox, pepperoni, bacon, ham, deli meats, sausage, beef jerky..ect.. I stay away from all the above, I have made beef jerky in my food dehydrator with soy sauce and balasmic vinegar, the family really liked it, so you dont need this ingredient, just the food industry is cheap! Here's some info as to the subject that I posted: http://www.newstarget.com/001693.html By Mike New research published in the British Medical Journal is revealing a game plan that can be used to fight the health-destroying efforts of the food industry. Lessons learned from the fight with Big Tobacco can be applied to fighting the food industry. These results indicate there's a great deal of similarity between the food companies that market unhealthful foods and Big Tobacco. Both industries rely in misinformation, burying negative data, and confusing the public with conflicting evidence. And just as Big Tobacco has long insisted that nicotine is not addictive and there is nothing unhealthful about smoking cigarettes, the food industry and soft drink companies continue to insist there is no such thing as an unhealthy food. They say that any food, no matter what ingredients are in it, can be part of a healthful diet. They also tend to blame lack of exercise, rather than their foods, for causing obesity. The position of the U.S. food industry is, of course, nothing short of outlandish. To suggest that there's no such thing as an unhealthy food strains the credibility of logic and common sense. Clearly, there are some foods that promote obesity, diabetes, cancer, and other chronic diseases. At the same time, there are other foods that even prevent those diseases. Essentially, this can be understood by looking at the ingredients that are in the foods. It is the ingredients themselves that give the healthful or health-destroying characteristics to food and beverage products. For example, any food made with high-fructose corn syrup is likely to promote diabetes or obesity. Likewise, any food made with refined white flour will also promote diabetes and obesity. In a similar way, foods made with ingredients that cause cancer, such as sodium nitrite or saccharin, will of course result in cancer if a person consumes them in large enough quantities and with enough frequency. Many of these ingredients, are, in effect, slow-acting poisons, and it appears to be the position of the food and beverage industry that poisons really aren't poisonous. Apparently, in their view, you could put any ingredient into a food or beverage, and it would have absolutely no effect on a person's health. In other words, the food industry is trying to destroy the cause-effect relationship between the foods and beverages a person consumes and the level of health they subsequently exhibit. Accordingly, these industries would like to rewrite the rules of cause and effect in the universe, and overturn the laws of physics and biochemistry. Perhaps executives from these food and beverage companies should also join the Flat Earth Society in order remain consistent with their worldviews. The real story in all of this is that foods and beverages do have a dramatic and obvious health effect on the human body. Every cell in your body is built from ingredients that you put in your mouth. If you consume ingredients that promote health, you will in time become a healthier person. If you choose, on the other hand, to consume ingredients that destroy your health, you will, of course, experience that outcome as well, and you will end up being diagnosed with various chronic diseases such as cancer, diabetes, osteoporosis, mental depression, or heart disease. It's also interesting to note in all of this that there are actually very few ingredients that need to be targeted and outlawed from the U.S. food supply in order to protect the health of consumers. Those ingredients include refined white flour, refined sugars, high- fructose corn syrup, hydrogenated oils, sodium nitrate, homogenized milkfats, aspartame, MSG, and artificial food colors. If these ingredients were made illegal tomorrow, and were emptied out of the food chain in a matter of weeks or months, we would see an immediate drop in chronic disease and obesity across the United States. Healthcare costs would plummet, quality of life would skyrocket, and people would be healthier, happier and even experience better moods and mental health. I believe that one day these ingredients will be banned from the human food supply, and there may in fact be massive lawsuits against food manufacturers someday for choosing to use these ingredients even while an enormous amount of evidence clearly shows the detrimental health effects of such ingredients. But once again, the food and beverage industries insist that there is no such thing as a harmful food, and therefore there is no such thing as a harmful ingredient, either. From their point of view, you could insert lead, mercury, cadmium, and arsenic into any food product and eat it without consequence. There's no such thing as lead poisoning, the food industry seems to be saying. There's no such thing as mercury poisoning either, and in their minds, there's no such thing as obesity caused by foods, soft drinks, or food ingredients. Getting back to the main point here, what we can learn from the war with Big Tobacco is that the food industry will continue to produce scientists that refute scientific reality in their effort to spread disinformation about the relationship between foods and disease. At the same time, we have good science as our ally. We can conduct studies that show and prove these nutritional relationships. We can publicize those studies and help make legislators and the public aware of the true cause of obesity and chronic disease in this country and around the world. We can counter their bad, distorted science with good science that shows foods and beverages really do play a role in the health outcome of individuals. So where are we going with all of this? Let's say we've been able to produce outstanding scientific evidence showing that the food ingredients I've named in this article actually do promote obesity and chronic disease. What do we do with that information as an advanced society? How do we protect the public from ingredients that promote disease? There are several recommendations on the table right now. They include taxing junk foods, which would of course make those foods and beverages more expensive. Other ideas include banning the sale of soft drinks and junk foods in our nation's public schools, which I think is not only a good idea, but just plain common sense. We shouldn't be dosing our children with harmful food ingredients in order to raise a few dollars for public school funding. Instead, we should be funding public schools at higher levels in the first place so they don't need to turn to vending machine gimmicks in order to buy textbooks for students. Other ideas include banning the marketing and promotion of so-called junk foods. That would be easy to implement by outlawing all radio, television and print advertising for these foods. And finally, the most extreme but perhaps most effective measure would be outlawing these ingredients through action at the FDA. Fat chance of that happening any time soon... For my part, I am in support of each and every one of these proposals, and I think that the faster we move on them, the more quickly we can protect the health of Americans and people around the world. The junk food industry, of course, will balk at all of these proposals, and they will raise a stink in Washington at any attempt to limit their ability to sell disease-promoting foods and drinks to the American public. After all, they're in it for the money, and if you protect the public by restricting the sale or marketing of these products, you're hitting these companies in the pocket book, and they don't like that. So you can expect a whole lot of political pressure to be applied to lawmakers in Washington by the food and beverage industries in order to protect their existing profits. Ultimately, what we need as a civilized nation is for these ingredients to be outlawed altogether. They simply do not belong in the human food supply. We can start with things like hydrogenated oils, which are so obviously detrimental to human health and backed by such an overwhelming collection of scientific evidence that there should be no question in the mind of any reasonable person that hydrogenated oils promote heart disease and other disorders. Similarly, hydrogenated oils simply should not be allowed in the food supply. You could also make similar arguments for ingredients such as high-fructose corn syrup, and if we had the political courage as a nation, we could make the same argument for chemical additives such as aspartame, MSG, artificial colors, and of course sodium nitrite. None of these ingredients should be legal to use in foods and beverages. They should all be banned. But at each and every turn, the food industry will wage a war of disinformation against the scientific facts in order to mislead lawmakers and the public about the true nature of these food ingredients. But in the end, I believe that with the freedom of information on the internet, and the weight of scientific fact, we'll overcome these efforts by the food and beverage industries and in the decades ahead, I have no doubt that these food ingredients will be banned from the human food supply. No intelligent nation should be feeding its people ingredients that promote chronic disease, obesity, and impaired mental function. Here's where I got this info about how good it is! This is where you get to use your own judgement. (Notice the gov link:) http://www.nih.gov/news/radio/sep2005/09112005nitrites.htm Sodium Nitrite May Be a Cheap, Potent Therapy for Heart Attacks, Strokes and Other Ailments Brief Description: The salt that preserves hot dogs and other cured meats – like beef jerky, bacon, and ham – seems to have a role to play in preserving a person's health. According to researchers at the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute, " sodium nitrite " has gotten a bad rap over the years – and could serve as a cheap and potent treatment for such ailments as sickle-cell anemia, heart attacks, brain aneurysms, and pulmonary hypertension. Transcript: Schmalfeldt: This isn't an invitation to run down to the corner hot dog stand to stuff yourself. But the salt that preserves hot dogs and other cured meats like beef jerky, bacon and ham, seems to have a role to play in preserving a person's health. According to Dr. Mark Gladwin, section head of the Vascular Therapeutic Section of the Cardiology Branch of the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute, the salt known as " sodium nitrite " has gotten a bad rap over the years. Gladwin: People have always worried about nitrite in meat curing and its possible risk of stomach cancer. The problem was, nitrite's also in good foods. It's in very high concentrations in spinach. Nitrite is present in leafy green vegetables, beets. So it's not just in hot dogs, beef jerkey, cured ham. So what happened was studies were done looking at the association between diets rich in nitrite and stomach cancer. And there was no association. So that risk has really been debunked. Schmalfeldt: Dr. Gladwin said it's been known for some time that the chemical sodium nitrite exists naturally in our blood and tissues, but that it was thought to be a waste product of nitric oxide, a molecule that opens blood vessels and increases blood flow. Then about five years ago, in collaboration with Doctor Cannon at the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute, Dr. Gladwin and his fellow researchers started looking into blood flow in human circulation and found that as the blood went from the artery to the vein, nitrite levels in the blood dropped as if the nitrite was being used for something. Dr. Gladwin said that raised the question of whether or not nitrite was being converted back to nitric oxide. This led to studies where subjects were given inhaled nitric oxide. Dr. Gladwin said that nitric oxide converted to nitrite, and was associated with an increase in blood flow. That led to further studies. Gladwin: So finally, about a year ago, we actually infused nitrite into the arms of normal volunteers here in the Clinical Center. And, to our surprise, this molecule that was supposed to be inert, robustly increased the blood flow to the arms of our volunteers. So what we found was (in) levels just above the physiologic level in our own blood, nitrite actually opened up blood vessels and dilated. Schmalfeldt: Dr. Gladwin said more study needs to be done, but the way is already clear for some uses of nitrite in a clinical setting. Gladwin: We currently have FDA approval for short infusions of nitrite, such as we would use for heart attacks. So we're currently planning studies to look at nitrite as a therapy for heart attacks in patients, and we're working on further toxicology studies to get approval to give it as a nebulization to babies with high blood pressure in the lungs. Schmalfeldt: If eventually approved for widespread clinical use, Dr. Gladwin said nitrite could be a cheap and potent treatment for such ailments as sickle cell anemia, heart attacks, brain aneurysms, and pulmonary hypertension. Dr. Gladwin said more comprehensive clinical trials are perhaps just a year or two away. From the National Institutes of Health, I'm Bill Schmalfeldt in Bethesda, land. Date: 09/13/2005 Reporter: Bill Schmalfeldt Sound Bite: Dr. Mark Gladwin Topic: Sodium Nitrite, Stroke, Heart Institute(s): NHLBI Now here's a sensible guy: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/16361276/ The 5 things you need to know about deli meats What's really in those cold cuts at your local grocery store? TODAY food editor Phil Lempert has the lowdown By Phil Lempert Food Editor TODAY updated 11:26 a.m. PT, Wed., Dec. 27, 2006 Cooked, sliced meats, also known as deli, lunch meats or cold cuts, are a boon to brown baggers looking for simple fillings for sandwiches, and easy-to-serve choices for parties and family gatherings. Basically, they're just slices of sausages in one form or the other. You can buy them already sliced in vacuum packs or have them sliced to order at a deli counter. Take a look next time you are in the dairy department (where you can find these prepackaged and hanging on hooks) or in the ready to slice deli section, and you'll find scores of varieties including: beerwurst, bologna, pepper loaf, olive loaf, capocolla, chicken breast, chicken roll, corned beef, Devon sausage, ham, head cheese (which isn't cheese at all, but made from the head parts of a hog, which are cooked together with gelatin and spices), liverwurst, pastrami, proscuitto, roast beef, salami, pepperoni, summer sausage, turkey breast and turkey roll. If you are unfamiliar with a type of deli meat, ask for a sample. Sometimes the flavoring or texture might be a surprise (either good or bad) and in this category it is always wise to try a sample before you buy! The five things you need to know: 1. There are three types of cold cut meat and poultry products: Whole cuts of meats or poultry that are cooked and then sliced (examples: roast beef, corned beef, turkey breast), sectioned and formed products and processed products. Whole cuts are exactly what they sound like — a section of meat or poultry that has been cooked, possibly flavored with salt, spices or sugars that is then sliced, typically the more expensive type of cold cuts. Sectioned and formed meat products are restructured meat products, such as multi-part turkey breasts or cooked hams. They are prepared from chunks or pieces of meat and are bonded together to form a single piece. The substances that bind these together are non-meat additives, meat emulsions and extracted myofibrillar proteins. Typically they are produced by extracting the meat proteins (by adding salt and massaging or tumbling the meat, which brings these " sticky " proteins to the surface) or by adding non-meat proteins. Myosin is the major protein that is extracted. The meat becomes soft and pliable and is then shaped through the application of force using different molds or casings. It is then cooked to coagulate the proteins, which bind the chunks of meat together in its new shape. Processed meats (sausages) are the majority of what we call cold cuts. About 15% of all meat produced in the U.S. is used to make these which number over 200 varieties. Sausage manufacturing includes any type of meat that is chopped, seasoned and formed into a symmetrical shape, for example, bologna. There are two methods for preparing the ingredients: emulsion, where the meat is finely chopped and the hydrophobic proteins react with fat, the opposite protein, and the hydrophilic react with water to hold fat in the solution (bologna, Vienna sausages, hot dogs) and non emulsion, which is typically for coarser grinds. The same basic technology is used as for sectioned and formed meat products, but with no tumbling and massaging required. There are several meat sources for sausages including beef, pork, mutton, veal, and poultry; meat by-products are also used sometimes, like lips, tripe, pork stomachs and heart. 2. Read the fine print. One of the questions I'm most asked has to do with " nitrates " that are listed in the ingredients on some cold cut packages. Sodium nitrite helps prevent the growth of Clostridium botulinum, which can cause botulism in humans and is also used alone or in conjunction with sodium nitrate as a color fixative in cured meat and poultry products (bologna, hot dogs, bacon). During the cooking process, nitrites combine with amines naturally present in meat to form carcinogenic N-nitroso compounds. It is also suspected that nitrites can combine with amines in the human stomach to form N- nitroso compounds. These compounds are known carcinogens and have been associated with cancer of the oral cavity, urinary bladder, esophagus, stomach and brain. Research in Sweden found that Swedes who ate on average three ounces of processed meat each day had a 15 percent greater chance of developing stomach cancer than those who consumed two ounces or less. Results of a study by the Cancer Research Center of Hawaii and the University of Southern California reported in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute (2005;97:1458-65) of 190,000 people, ages 45 to 75, for seven years state that those who ate the most processed meat (bacon, ham, cold cuts) had a 68% higher risk of pancreatic cancer than those who ate the least. " Most " was defined as at least 0.6 ounce processed meat, one ounce beef or 0.3 ounce pork per 1,000 calories consumed. Dieticians suggest that you can help reduce the possible cancer- causing effects of sodium nitrite by consuming protective antioxidants before meals, such as vitamin C and vitamin E. But, remember, no vitamin offers 100% protection. Here's a glossary of some other ingredients from the USDA's Food Safety and Inspection Service Labeling Regulations: Added solutions (with juices): Products with added solutions that are cooked in an impervious bag and as a result of the cooking contain free flowing juices that are not drained, should be labeled to reflect the solution and the juices, e.g. " Roast Beef Contains up to 12 percent solution with Juices. " Added solutions (poultry) (boneless): Boneless poultry products containing solutions can be labeled similarly to the PFF language for cured pork products, that is — " Cured Chicken and Water Product X percent of Weight is Added Ingredients. " The terms — " with natural juices " or " water added " — are not permitted since both terms do not adequately convey the amount of solution added to the poultry products. Additionally, the term — " with natural juices " is misleading when a solution is introduced into poultry product by means of marinating, soaking, or injecting. BHT (butylated hydroxytoluene), BHA (butylated hydroxyanisole), tocopherols (vitamin E): Antioxidants that help maintain the appeal and wholesome qualities of food by retarding rancidity in fats, sausages and dried meats, as well as helping to protect some of the natural nutrients in foods, such as vitamin A. Bromelin: An enzyme that can dissolve or degrade the proteins collagen and elastin to soften meat and poultry tissue. It is derived from pineapple fruit and leaves, and is used as a meat tenderizer. Carrageenan: Seaweed is the source of this additive. It may be used in products as binder. Chemical free: Beware, this term is not allowed to be put on any meats or poultry labels. Citric acid: Widely distributed in nature in both plants and animals. It can be used as an additive to protect the fresh color of meat cuts during storage. Citric acid also helps protect flavor and increases the effectiveness of antioxidants. Corn syrup: Sugar that is derived from the hydrolysis of corn starch. Uses include flavoring agent and sweetener in meat and poultry products. Emulsifier: Substance added to products, such as meat spreads, to prevent separation of product components to ensure consistency. Examples of these types of additives include lecithin, and mono- and di-glycerides. Ficin: Enzyme derived from fig trees that is used as a meat tenderizer. Gelatin: Thickener from collagen, which is derived from the skin, tendons, ligaments or bones of livestock. It may be used in canned hams or jellied meat products. Humectant: Substance added to foods to help retain moisture and soft texture. An example is glycerine, which may be used in dried meat snacks. Hydrolyzed (source) protein: Flavor enhancers that can be used in meat and poultry products. They are made from protein obtained from a plant source such as soy or wheat, or from an animal source, such as milk. The source used must be identified on the label. Modified food starch: Starch that has been chemically altered to improve its thickening properties. Before the starch is modified, it is separated from the protein through isolation techniques; therefore, the source of the starch used is not required on the label. Monosodium glutamate (MSG): MSG is a flavor enhancer. It comes from a common amino acid, glutamic acid, and must be declared as monosodium glutamate on meat and poultry labels. Papain: An enzyme that can dissolve or degrade the proteins collagen and elastin to soften meat and poultry tissue. It is derived from the tropical papaya tree and is used as a meat tenderizer. Phosphates: The two beneficial effects of phosphates in meat and poultry products are moisture retention and flavor protection. An example is the use of phosphates in the curing of ham where approved additives are sodium or potassium salts of tripolyphosphate, hexametaphosphate, acid pyrophosphate or orthophosphates, declared as " phosphates " on labels. Propyl gallate: Used as an antioxidant to prevent rancidity in products such as rendered fats or pork sausage. It can be used in combination with antioxidants such as BHA and BHT. Rancid/rancidity: Oxidation/breakdown of fat that occurs naturally causing undesirable smell and taste. BHA/BHT and tocopherols are used to keep fats from becoming rancid. Sodium caseinate: Used as a binder in products such as frankfurters and stews. Sodium erythorbate: The sodium salt of erythorbic acid, a highly refined food-grade chemical closely related to vitamin C, synthesized from sugar, and used as a color fixative in preparing cured meats. (Note: Erythorbate is not earthworms. Perhaps the spelling or pronunciation has contributed to this misconception because the hotline receives many calls related to this concern.) Sodium nitrite: Used alone or in conjunction with sodium nitrate as a color fixative in cured meat and poultry products (bologna, hot dogs, bacon). Helps prevent growth of Clostridium botulinum, which can cause botulism in humans. Sugar (sucrose): Used as sweetener in an endless list of food products. Texturizers/stabilizers/thickeners: Used in foods to help maintain uniform texture or consistency. These are substances that are commonly called binders. Examples are gelatin and carrageenan. Whey, dried: The dried form of a component of milk that remains after cheese making. Can be used as a binder or extender in various meat products, such as sausage and stews. My recommendation for those people who want to avoid any chemicals or artificial ingredients is to buy certified organic lunch meats, which typically cost between 10 and 40% more, but are a guaranteed way to avoid these ingredients. However, since organic products don't contain these preservatives be sure to store them properly and consumer them within one or two days. 3. The danger of cold cuts: Listeria No doubt you'll remember the story about some lunch meat products being recalled for Listeria contamination. It happened almost ten years ago when 35 million pounds of hot dogs and processed luncheon meats were recalled following an outbreak when almost 100 people in 22 states became ill, and 20 people died. It's a serious food safety issue that you need to pay attention to. Since the outbreak, regulations have been changed and include the safety precaution that food processors must now hold more product, and for a longer time, if a sample tests positive for Listeria, to prevent the distribution of potentially contaminated foods. Listeriosis is an infection caused by eating food contaminated with the bacterium Listeria monocytogenes, with an estimated 2,500 persons in the U.S. becoming seriously ill and 500 of these resulting in death each year. The disease affects primarily pregnant women (who are 20 times more likely to become infected and develop a severe illness), newborns and adults with weakened immune systems. The symptoms include fever, muscle aches and sometimes gastrointestinal symptoms such as nausea or diarrhea. If infection spreads to the nervous system, symptoms such as headache, stiff neck, confusion, loss of balance or convulsions can occur. Infected pregnant women may experience only a mild, flu-like illness; however, infections during pregnancy can lead to miscarriage or stillbirth, premature delivery or infection of the newborn. Healthy adults and children occasionally get infected with Listeria, but they rarely become seriously ill. Listeria is killed by pasteurization and cooking; however, in certain ready-to-eat foods such as hot dogs and deli meats, contamination may occur after cooking but before packaging. To protect against listeriosis, the government advises consumers to thoroughly cook raw animal products, thoroughly wash all food that is to be eaten raw like fruits and vegetables, keep foods to be eaten raw separate from uncooked meats, and wash hands, knives and cutting boards with hot soapy water. Also, be sure to watch out for the juices from processed meats and sausages; it can transmit Listeria, so wash with hot water and soap anything that comes in contact with the juices. Note: On Aug. 19, 2006, the Food and Drug Administration approved LMP 102, a bacteriophage-based product from Intralytix Inc., as a food additive to be sprayed on cold cuts before packaging. The bacteriophages are added to defend the meats from Listeria monocytogenes, the phages infect the bacteria, binding to the host and effectively killing all strains of Listeria. 4. How much are you paying for water? It is perfectly legal for food companies to add a water, sodium and water or even water and spices solution to many of the lunch meats including ham, roast beef and turkey, but they must be labeled clearly and state the exact percentage of solution that has been added — for example, " 10% water-added " or " Contains Up To 10% Added Moisture, " which means you are paying for one pound of water for every ten pounds of meat that you buy. Since food is sold by weight it's important to read the labels, not only for the declaration of how much water or other solution has been added, but to see where " water " is listed in the ingredients. 5. Deli meats are highly perishable. No food lasts forever, especially when it comes to cold cuts. While some of these products have natural or chemical preservatives to extend shelf life, packaged cold cuts once opened will only last three to five days. Cold cuts sliced fresh from the deli 1-3 days, if stored properly. Be sure to use an airtight plastic bag to store them and put them in the coldest part of the refrigerator. Freshness dating of processed meats is a voluntary program and not mandated by the federal government. However, if there is a date on the package, by law, it must state clearly what the date signifies: " Sell by " date means nothing more than telling the store how long to display the product for sale. Never buy the product after this date. " Best if used by " date means the flavor, taste and quality of the product will be at its optimum before this date. It has nothing to do with freshness or safety. " Use by " date means just that — don't consumer the product after this date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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