Re: Diet pills/fat burners

May 9, 2002

Dani - I haven't taken fat burners but actually was looking at Xenadrine Ephedra

Free today. Didn't buy it.

DO NOT start on diet pills. I was addicted to them for years and years. You

don't even want to know how long I was on them. I was totally addicted. The

Atkins Diet was the first one that I was able to stop taking them and I haven't

taken another one in almost 2 1/2 years. If you think you had trouble falling

asleep with the fat burners you ain't seen nothing. PLEASE - I implore you.

Just do the BFL. Remember its BFL ... the weight will come off. You will start

to feel better. And you will have done it without those kinds of aids.

Rita

Diet pills/fat burners

After reading Sherry's post, I started thinking about all the diet

pills and fat burners out there, esp. the ones that containe ephedra

and caffeine (which, as far as I know, are the only two ingredients

proven to burn fat).

I've tried taking a variety of fat burners, incl. Hydroxycut,

Xenadrine, etc., and they all make me SO anxious, irritable, shaky

and sick to my stomach. I would take maybe two pills a day (a

fraction of the recommended dosage), tops, and I'd still feel like

crap, plus, worse of all, 14 hours after taking them I couldn't fall

asleep.

Recently, I tried Xenadrine Ephedra Free, which has caffeine but not

ma huang; my body responded better to that, but I still got jittery

and sick to my stomach, and I had trouble falling asleep at night. I

tend to get insomnia, anyway, so anything with stimulants is a no,

no. My body is just real sensative to even caffeine.

I feel this pressure to take something, anything, that would help

burn fat, but I can't go around feeling like crap all day either;

it's counter productive (esp. because when I can't sleep I get the

urge to go downstairs and raid the fridge).

So my question is: Do these fat burners really make a huge

difference? Is it necessary to take them? Is there anything without

stimulants that burns fat? What kind of experience have you all had

with diet pills/fat burners? Thank you!

Dani

May 9, 2002

<ForeverMuse@h...> wrote:

> Oddly enough I have not experienced any side effect from either

one. I would use the hydroxycut only on my work days, but now that

I'm taking the B-Lean I take 'em everyday and it helps me go to the

bathroom for #2 since I'm usually constipated, so I really like them

I think they must have fiber or something. Anyways, that's my

experience.

>

> Ena.

More likely it's the caffeine in BetaLean that makes you have to go

to the bathroom. Hydroxycut did the same thing to me when I tried it.

Maggie

May 9, 2002

Dani, I have tried lots of ephedra based fat burners and was way

too jittery and an absolute crazy, drama queen. My guy at the

vitamin store recommneded ThermiCore CRT by MetRX that is a time

released formula. I have been taking everyday but Sunday, and

though I can't say for sure if it is helping with the progress, I

know that it picks me way up for a better cardio. Otherwise, it

doesn't give me that speed feeling as intensely as the others. I

wish you were closer, I'd let you try 'em. I hate trying things

osut with these big bottles, too much moola!

> After reading Sherry's post, I started thinking about all the diet

> pills and fat burners out there, esp. the ones that containe

ephedra

> and caffeine (which, as far as I know, are the only two

ingredients

> proven to burn fat).

>

> I've tried taking a variety of fat burners, incl. Hydroxycut,

> Xenadrine, etc., and they all make me SO anxious, irritable, shaky

> and sick to my stomach. I would take maybe two pills a day (a

> fraction of the recommended dosage), tops, and I'd still feel like

> crap, plus, worse of all, 14 hours after taking them I couldn't

fall

> asleep.

>

> Recently, I tried Xenadrine Ephedra Free, which has caffeine but

not

> ma huang; my body responded better to that, but I still got

jittery

> and sick to my stomach, and I had trouble falling asleep at

night. I

> tend to get insomnia, anyway, so anything with stimulants is a no,

> no. My body is just real sensative to even caffeine.

>

> I feel this pressure to take something, anything, that would help

> burn fat, but I can't go around feeling like crap all day either;

> it's counter productive (esp. because when I can't sleep I get the

> urge to go downstairs and raid the fridge).

>

> So my question is: Do these fat burners really make a huge

> difference? Is it necessary to take them? Is there anything

without

> stimulants that burns fat? What kind of experience have you all

had

> with diet pills/fat burners? Thank you!

>

> Dani

May 9, 2002

run_girl_la wrote:

>

> So my question is: Do these fat burners really make a huge

> difference? Is it necessary to take them? Is there anything without

> stimulants that burns fat? What kind of experience have you all had

> with diet pills/fat burners? Thank you!

>

> Dani

I don't use any fat burners/thermogenics. I'm losing weight 1-2 pounds a

week just by following the book the way it is and my doctor and I have

discussed my taking other products and she doesn't recommend it. So I

don't. The only experience I have had with pills has been my father in law's

experience with Ephedrine. He took it years ago and, as a result, his

thyroid stopped working. About 10 years later he developed type 2 diabetes

as a result of the Ephedrine and almost suffered renal failure. DH wouldn't

let me take anything with ephedrine even if I wanted to.

Serenity

May 9, 2002

I started taking hydroxycut and the main side effect I got was that I couldn't

stop going to the bathroom . Now I take B-Lean and they are working

wonderfully!

Oddly enough I have not experienced any side effect from either one. I would

use the hydroxycut only on my work days, but now that I'm taking the B-Lean I

take 'em everyday and it helps me go to the bathroom for #2 since I'm usually

constipated, so I really like them I think they must have fiber or something.

Anyways, that's my experience.

Ena.

So my question is: Do these fat burners really make a huge

difference? Is it necessary to take them? Is there anything without

stimulants that burns fat? What kind of experience have you all had

with diet pills/fat burners? Thank you!

Dani

May 9, 2002

You just have to get rid of the marketing myth in your head that

these products 'burn fat' off your body ~ they DO NOT! They

are 'stimulants' and they increase your body's capacity to MOVE more

& sometimes eat less which results in weightloss ... they 'stimulate'

the adrenal glands (you know the fear factor gland which gives us a

rush when we need to flee) and that is why so many people who use

them say they do NOTHING for them because their adrenal glands are

working just fine thank you, its their big butts they just need to

move more! LoL! You have to understand the BIG marketing $$ behind

pushing these products on us (too good to be true? but we suck it up

anyways!) we buy them to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars looking for

that 'magic bullet' way to weightloss ~ arent we pathetic or what?

hehehe! Hard work, perseverence and knowledge of how your body works

(make it work for you instead of against you) will put you on the

path to lifetime health & fitness that you will never find in

pillform..I must say that I am not against using any thermogenics

(those of you who know me on the board know this! LoL! many

past 'debates' on this very subject!) if you choose correctly

comparing cost & ingredients, and realize that AT MOST for the

majority of people these type of supplements ONLY offer an energized

workout and NOTHING MORE than that, then you can make an educated

decision whether to add them to your program or not ~ and in the

interst of education here's a good link all about thermogenics and

how they work (or dont work) in the humanbody:

http://www.drumlib.com/dp/000006.htm

<<joni>>

*If you didn't need a pill to get fat, why would you need one to get

unfat? * - OnePhatMan Quote

May 9, 2002

Thanks everyone for your comments re. fat burners. That's a scary

story about Serenity's father-in-law and ephedrine. I also really

appreciate Joni's informative response. I did know that pills can't

actually burn fat, and it makes me mad that the manufacturers can

claim that. What a scam!

Dani

May 9, 2002

his thyroid stopped working as a result of using ephedra type products?

definitely? i have never heard of that...yet. gulp! adrenal problems, kidney

problems, prostate problems, cardiac arrest, blood pressure problems, yes.

scary, huh?

dani, i don't think you are missing anything. there's a lot of stuff on the

market right now that doesn't contain caffeine or ephedra/ephedrine/ma huang

that are " diet aids " / " fat burners " but some of them have little to no clinical

evidence of efficacy. you can find info here and there on certain supplements

that are marketed as " fat burners " but contain little to no stimulant type

ingredients (CLA and green tea are two that immediately come to mind) but there

are so many variables in those human studies--how overweight the people were

when they started, what they were eating during the trial, the type and duration

of exercise performed, etc. etc. also, almost all clinical trials use men as

test subjects because of liability issues with women and pregnancy. so who knows

if it works for women or not? my personal experience with these type of products

is that, unlike you, i have an amazingly high tolerance for stimulants and i

really liked those products solely because they completely killed my appetite.

as soon as i stopped taking them---my appetite came back and then some! i

already have a history of problems with binge eating and yo yo dieting, so i

leave them alone now. i am the assistant manager in the supplements dept. at a

pretty big health food store and i know all of the aforementioned dangers of

these products and i know that all of the marketing on them is just hype, but

did that stop me from taking them? noooo....those hydroxycut and xenadrine ads

are soooo tempting with their before and after pictures. now i just look at my

body for life book and all of the before and after pics for

inspiration/ " temptation " --transformation temptation.

sorry this is so long---

mo

Re: Diet pills/fat burners

run_girl_la wrote:

>

> So my question is: Do these fat burners really make a huge

> difference? Is it necessary to take them? Is there anything without

> stimulants that burns fat? What kind of experience have you all had

> with diet pills/fat burners? Thank you!

>

> Dani

I don't use any fat burners/thermogenics. I'm losing weight 1-2 pounds a

week just by following the book the way it is and my doctor and I have

discussed my taking other products and she doesn't recommend it. So I

don't. The only experience I have had with pills has been my father in law's

experience with Ephedrine. He took it years ago and, as a result, his

thyroid stopped working. About 10 years later he developed type 2 diabetes

as a result of the Ephedrine and almost suffered renal failure. DH wouldn't

let me take anything with ephedrine even if I wanted to.

Serenity

May 9, 2002

*If you didn't need a pill to get fat, why would you need one to get

unfat? *

Love this one!!! TY!