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> Fellow Perfumers,

>

> Faith and I have been doing some price research on Vanilla beans

> and Saffron. It looks like in our local area of Los Angeles, Herb

> Products

> has the best retail price on these. Vanilla beans are $2 each. The

two

> saffrons they have are Mexican and Spanish. Huge price difference

> between the two and totally different botanical names! Crocus

sativus

> being the best. I haven't gone over there to check the quality and

> grill them yet about which part they are selling etc.

Here's a virtual hug to you and Faith for checking this stuff out ;)

>

> Mexican Saffron: Carthamus tinctorius

> Spanish Saffron: Crocus sativus

Great to know there are different saffrons, too. A friend in Seattle

sent me crocus to grow my own a few years ago and something came

along and dug up the bulbs (and presumably ate them?). So I look for

it on sale.

I suppose the saffron grown in India is the same species as the

Spanish?

>

> Kathleen posted a link for Vanilla beans, the same place

> has some great info on saffron:

> http://www.chefdepot.net/saffronfacts.htm

>

> My question, dear Tincture Queens, which of the saffrons

> have you tinctured?

I haven't, yet, but I'm all fired up to try this now. Ethanol and

jojoba, methinks.

sara

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> I use alot of Saffron. I infuse it in jojoba for Solar Oils and

various

> solid applications. I infuse it in Green Olive Oil when I want to

create a

> perfume oil. I tincture it all the time to use as touches in my

perfumes. It

> tinctures and Infuses wonderfully. It DO STAIN tho LOL

Ooh this sounds lovely. I've had the occasion to smell the absolute

a few times, but the spice itself just makes me think of gold whereas

the absolute has this interesting warmth.

>

>

> I adore combining Saffron with Ruh Kewda and Rose. With a base

that includes

> perhaps some medowgrassy note such as Liatrix, or Orange Flower, a

light

> topnote that catches the depth of the Rose/Meadowsweet quality-

perhaps sparkling

> grapefruit sweetened with a touch of Blood Orange. Then I like to

transform

> the culinary notes with a smidgeon of champa. Saffron makes me

feel as if I

> am in heaven! gail

It's terribly indelicate, but I'm of a mind to make that drooling

sound Homer Simpson does when he sees a donut ;)

Kewda reminds me of white flowers seasoned w/ horseradish, so this w/

saffron and rose sounds so fascinating. And I'm picturing the final

color of the product once you've added champa (indelicate drooling

sound again).

sara

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> Does any one know if their is any benefit in using Saffron in

> perfume & if so how would I use it.

> The reason I ask is I was given a 200grm bag recently & there is

> only so much ressotto I can eat!!

You know, Gill,

We could all come over and help you eat saffron risotto! ;-) Wow --

sounds like you scored the killer bag! I think others have the right

idea with suggesting tinctures and oils and then using that stuff any

way your heart directs you. And I can't wait to hear what you come up

with. Sounds like you'll be having a lot of saffron fun!

Cheers and saffron wishes,

(with Homer Simpson drooly noises -- Love it!)

Andrine

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--- Shea <goblinboy60660@...> wrote:

> <there is only so

> much ressotto I can eat!!>

>

>

> How about paella, boullaibaise, rogan josh, seafood

> dishes galore!

> My mouth is watering!

>

With all this talk about saffron, last night I decided

to make a saffron flan for our dessert. Oooooooh was

it good!

Alfred

in San Francisco

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At 11:20 AM 10/18/2006, you wrote:

>With all this talk about saffron, last night I decided

>to make a saffron flan for our dessert. Oooooooh was

>it good!

Alfred, was this a savory flan For dessert? Or was it sweet?

Anya McCoy

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--- Anya <mccoy@...> wrote:

> At 11:20 AM 10/18/2006, you wrote:

>

> >With all this talk about saffron, last night I

> decided

> >to make a saffron flan for our dessert. Oooooooh

> was

> >it good!

>

> Alfred, was this a savory flan For dessert? Or was

> it sweet?

Hi Anya,

It was a sweet flan, though I once made a savory flan

using verbena. Also good. I think that a savory

saffron flan would probably be quite delicious, so I'm

sure to make that one next time!

Alfred

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At 12:09 PM 10/19/2006, you wrote:>

> > Alfred, was this a savory flan For dessert? Or was

> > it sweet?

>

>

>Hi Anya,

>

>It was a sweet flan, though I once made a savory flan

>using verbena. Also good. I think that a savory

>saffron flan would probably be quite delicious, so I'm

>sure to make that one next time!

Hi Albert

My Pennsylvania Dutch grandmother used saffron a lot for savory

dishes, especially chicken pot pie. They grew there own, and I

believe it was the ONLY spice they used. This is the time of year for harvest.

Anya McCoy

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Anya <mccoy@...> wrote: At 12:09 PM 10/19/2006, you wrote:>

> > Alfred, was this a savory flan For dessert? Or was

> > it sweet?

>

>

>Hi Anya,

>

>It was a sweet flan, though I once made a savory flan

>using verbena. Also good. I think that a savory

>saffron flan would probably be quite delicious, so I'm

>sure to make that one next time!

Hi Albert

My Pennsylvania Dutch grandmother used saffron a lot for savory

dishes, especially chicken pot pie. They grew there own, and I

believe it was the ONLY spice they used. This is the time of year for harvest.

Hi Albert and Anya

I have used it to traditionally colour basmatic rice and some indian dishes

and also as a infusion colour in soaps. ..... I think the plant very much like

crocus....?

Janita

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Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 9:27 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Saffron

Anya <mccoy@... <mailto:mccoy%40newsguy.com> > wrote: At 12:09 PM

10/19/2006, you wrote:>

> > Alfred, was this a savory flan For dessert? Or was

> > it sweet?

>

>

>Hi Anya,

>

>It was a sweet flan, though I once made a savory flan

>using verbena. Also good. I think that a savory

>saffron flan would probably be quite delicious, so I'm

>sure to make that one next time!

Hi Albert

My Pennsylvania Dutch grandmother used saffron a lot for savory

dishes, especially chicken pot pie. They grew there own, and I

believe it was the ONLY spice they used. This is the time of year for

harvest.

Hi Albert and Anya

I have used it to traditionally colour basmatic rice and some indian dishes

and also as a infusion colour in soaps. ..... I think the plant very much

like crocus....?

Janita

Yes, you are correct, Janita, it is Crocus sativus. Wikipedia has about as

much information as one could hope for on this lovely aromatic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffron

Be Well,

Marcia Elston http://www.wingedseed.com

" Give thanks for a little and you will find a lot. " Hausa Saying from

Nigeria

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At 12:27 PM 10/20/2006, you wrote:

>Hi Albert

>My Pennsylvania Dutch grandmother used saffron a lot for savory

>dishes, especially chicken pot pie. They grew there own, and I

>believe it was the ONLY spice they used. This is the time of year for harvest.

>

> Hi Albert and Anya

>

> I have used it to traditionally colour basmatic rice and some

> indian dishes and also as a infusion colour in soaps. ..... I think

> the plant very much like crocus....?

>

> Janita

HI Janita

I mentioned the PD people because they are the last ones on earth

you'd think would use saffron. Her family came over in 1690, went up

into the mountains of PA, and basically remained untouched (much) by

the outside world, much like the Amish neighbors of theirs. Still

have ancient dialect, etc. They grow the crocus Crocus sativa, the

saffron crocus, as they do in Spain, and India, etc., the countries

we more associate with using saffron in food. The orange stigmas are

harvested this time of year. The flowers are a pretty purple.

Anya McCoy

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Artisan Natural Perfumers Guild http://artisannaturalperfumers.org

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Anya <mccoy@...> wrote: At 12:27 PM 10/20/2006, you wrote:

>Hi Albert

>My Pennsylvania Dutch grandmother

>

> Hi Albert and Anya

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

> the plant very much like crocus....?

>

> Janita

HI Janita

I mentioned the PD people because they are the last ones on earth

you'd think would use saffron. Her family came over in 1690, went up

into the mountains of PA, and basically remained untouched (much) by

the outside world, much like the Amish neighbors of theirs. Still

have ancient dialect, etc. They grow the crocus Crocus sativa, the

saffron crocus, as they do in Spain, and India, etc., the countries

we more associate with using saffron in food. The orange stigmas are

harvested this time of year. The flowers are a pretty purple.

Hi Anya

Yes, of course..... as I read your above... the picture of the Crocus sativa

came in my head ...........do they harvest by hand method?

I was immediately drawn when you mentioned dutch grandmother...... I expect

you have seen my signings with haan morris at times.... my maiden name from the

age of 8........ My stepfather was a dutchman born in Holland and brought up in

London...... I remember his mother Mischa (I think that is how you spell it)

1690 wow they must have been some of the first settlers? Did you spend time

with your grandmother up there..... how utterley fascinating. I have a profound

and deep respect for the Amish community so your people as you mention have

similar ways? Any differences?

how brilliant

Janita

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At 05:34 PM 10/20/2006, you wrote:

We're really ranging off topic, so to keep it on topic for the group,

I'll share that they (my grandmother and her upstate relatives) had

terrible taste in perfume: Avon was their ideal, lol.

> I was immediately drawn when you mentioned dutch

> grandmother...... I expect you have seen my signings with haan

> morris at times.... my maiden name from the age of 8........ My

> stepfather was a dutchman born in Holland and brought up in

> London...... I remember his mother Mischa (I think that is how you spell it)

Janita, the " Dutch " was a variation on " Deutsch " -- hardcore German.

German names, faces, food, language, etc.

> 1690 wow they must have been some of the first settlers?

Yes, they were among the earliest settlers in America. They're a hard

and no-nonsense people, as are the Amish, given to shunning and

Draconian measures against members who don't conform.

We should stop chatting about them because they sure aren't into

perfume, natural or otherwise, just a chaste drop of Avon dreck, lol

Anya McCoy

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The Pennsylvania Germans weren't " into " perfume at all. Actually, any form

of ornamentation, from shiny buttons to fragrances, was disallowed as being

" earthly " and therefore of the devil's making. The shunning and Draconian

and shunning measures against members who don't conform! So well put, and

to put an end to discussion of it for once and for all! " Der selbstgericht

sieht nichts heraus, " The self-righteous sees nothing outside.

..

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The Pennsylvania Germans weren't " into " perfume at all. Actually, any form

of ornamentation, from shiny buttons to fragrances, was disallowed as being

" earthly " and therefore of the devil's making. The shunning and Draconian

and shunning measures against members who don't conform! So well put, and

to put an end to discussion of it for once and for all! " Der selbstgericht

sieht nichts heraus, " The self-righteous sees nothing outside.

..

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>

> Someone in the office picked up the little wooden box,

> which is on my desk, opened it, smelled it, and said

> 'My goodness, how did you capture the smell of new

> leather so well?'.

>

> Alfred

> in San Francisco

>

>

Alfred,

Hi, it's your east bay neighbor here.....I wanna smell that!!!!

Let's plan a party soon with all of us NP peeps to bring something to

pass around and smell.

xoxxoxo

L

holiday time frame...

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> > Someone in the office picked up the little wooden

> box,

> > which is on my desk, opened it, smelled it, and

> said

> > 'My goodness, how did you capture the smell of new

> > leather so well?'.

> >

> > Alfred

> > in San Francisco

> Alfred,

>

> Hi, it's your east bay neighbor here.....I wanna

> smell that!!!!

> Let's plan a party soon with all of us NP peeps to

> bring something to

> pass around and smell.

>

> xoxxoxo

>

> L

Sounds like a plan to me!!

Alfred

in San Francisco

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Alfred Eberle wrote:

> Alfred,

>> Hi, it's your east bay neighbor here.....I wanna

>> smell that!!!!

>> Let's plan a party soon with all of us NP peeps to

>> bring something to

>> pass around and smell.

>>

>> xoxxoxo

>>

>> L

>>

>

>

> Sounds like a plan to me!!

>

>

> Alfred

> in San Francisco

You guys were trying to get that together some time back - I think Patty

and Libby had all the email addresses for the Bay Area folks. Going to

try again? Hope it works this time. I think it was last year around this

time, then the holiday, inability to coordinate schedules, etc., made

the event flake. Maybe just a few can get together, " just do it " , as old

wise zen master Nike said.

--

Sincerely, Anya

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>>

>> Sounds like a plan to me!!

>>

>>

>> Alfred

>> in San Francisco

>

> You guys were trying to get that together some time back - I think

> Patty

> and Libby had all the email addresses for the Bay Area folks. Going to

> try again? Hope it works this time. I think it was last year around

> this

> time, then the holiday, inability to coordinate schedules, etc., made

> the event flake. Maybe just a few can get together, " just do it " ,

> as old

> wise zen master Nike said.

>

hehehe, yeah exactly, anya

good thinking~

xoxoxo

L

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I made a...well, I guess I should call it an aroma blend, since it is not

structured like a perfume. Anyway, it contains saffron attar, 10% civet

infusion, jojoba oil, and beeswax. My original idea was to make

something that just smelled good that I could carry around in a little wooden

box with a sliding lid, sort of a pomander idea. I solidified it more than I

would a solid perfume because I wasn't originally planning to use it as one

(bright orange spots on me). However, it is very, very nice and now I'm thinking

that I can build a perfume on this from the bottom up.

this sounds wonderful. if you need a test subject who isn't afraid of

orange spots, send me an email - i'm in oakland. :)

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>

>

> this sounds wonderful. if you need a test subject who isn't afraid of

> orange spots, send me an email - i'm in oakland. :)

>

looks like i'mnot the first person to want to " get me nose on " this.

please let me know when you all get together. saffron is one of my

favorite things!

thanks, alison cecile

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Alternative medicine: Saffron Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:53:38 By Khashayar, MD., Press TV, Tehran

Saffron is not only popular as a spice and a stimulant but it can also help in treating urinary, digestive and psychological ailments. Botanical: Crocus sativus Family: N.O. Iridaceae Synonym:Crocus. Karcom. Krokos. Habitat: Saffron which was originally found in Southern Europe is now cultivated in Spain, Austria, France, Greece, England, Turkey, Iran, India and China. Iranian Saffron is slightly different in appearance from European Saffron and its odor is remarkably stronger. Description: Saffron is a bulbous perennial plant, ranging from 10 to 30 cm in height. The bulb is meaty and round, although somewhat flat at the base. It is white colored on the inside, covered with a fibrous and rough brown colored membrane on the outside. The flowers surging from the bulb in 3 mm diameter stems, later develop into two purple to violet colored membranes. The flower is called the 'Saffron Rose' and consists of six elliptical pieces. Part Used Medicinally:

Flower pistils. Constituents: Saffron contains protein, essence, fixed oil, starch, fiber, iron, sodium, potassium, yellow colored glycosides, Alfa and beta carotenes, vitamin B1 and B2, phytone, phytofluene, terahydrocopene, Zeaxanthin and Crocetin. Saffron's essence includes pinene, safranal, and cineol. Its bitter taste is caused by picrocrocin. Medicinal Uses: On account of Saffron's coloring and aromatic properties, it is commonly used as a food additive by chefs from all over the world. Medicines containing saffron are used to treat acne, warts, condylomatas and several other skin diseases. Its paste can help reduce the inflammation of the eyelids and behind the ears, it can alleviate headaches and be applied as a dressing for bruises and superficial sores. Saffron is used to cure chronic diseases such as asthma and arthritis. It is also useful in cold and cough treatment. Ancient texts contain information about the aphrodisiac effects of Saffron. It is believed to be good for treating various digestive disorders, especially flatulent colic. It counteracts spasmodic disorders and sustains involuntary muscular contractions. Saffron is used in treating fevers, melancholia, and liver and spleen enlargements. A combination of saffron and ghee is used to treat diabetes. Saffron is used as a strengthening agent for the heart and as a cooling agent for the brain. It is an effective antidepressant, antipsychotic and a good treatment for hysteria. It has been found beneficial in treating urinary problems. When soaked overnight in water and consumed with honey it acts as a diuretic. Saffron helps promote and regulate menstrual periods, and soothes menstrual cramps. It can also be used to treat other ailments concerning women. Saffron oil is used as an external application in uterine sores. Used orally or as a topical agent it can be beneficial in different types of cancers affecting the mouth (oral cavity), ears, eyes, neck, spleen, stomach, bladder, breast, uterine and liver. In modern pharmacopoeias, saffron is only employed to color other medicines or as a cordial additive. Preparation: Half a teaspoon of saffron can be infused in a glass of boiling water and consumed after each meal. It should be noted that no more than 2 grams of saffron should be taken by adults per day. 300 mg of saffron powder helps digestion and the daily use of 0.5 to 1.5 grams of it helps the bowel activity. Saffron can also be used as a tincture. Oral consumption of saffron oil is believed to be effective in regulating the blood glucose level and therefore recommended for diabetic patients. Saffron powder, oil and paste are externally used to treat different types of ulcers. Caution: Saffron may induce abortion; hence pregnant women should not consume large doses of it. Saffron bulbs are toxic to young animals and an overdose of its stigmas has narcotic effects. PKH/HGH

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