Re: Maybe my last post :o(

[Guest guest]

Helen. Call the police. Please. He has no right to do that. please hun. I will be praying for you and your babies. And for peace knowing that it all will be resolved. :Bless you

sandra

[Guest guest]

He has legal custody, I only have power of attorney, but they have lived with me since they were each born, they are not going to take this well at all:o( I need to see them and tell them I did not do this to them. I didn't ask to raise them it just happened. But I wouldn't trade it for anything, as I grew to love them as my own. Now he wants his family as it breaks his heart to leave them behind each nigh he says. But he wasn't here that much, and I didn't ask him to leave last Nov. when he did. We are calling our lawyer in the morning, but I already know, grandparents have no rights:o(

helen

Helen. Call the police. Please. He has no right to do that. please hun. I will be praying for you and your babies. And for peace knowing that it all will be resolved. :Bless you sandra

          I may never see tomorrow;       there's no written guarantee, And things that happened yesterday                 belong to history!!! {{{Sent With Many Hugs}}}                  Helen

              

[Guest guest]

I dont know what state you live in, but grandparents DO have some rights. at least visitation. I am glad you are talking to your lawyer tomorrow. i am praying for you hun

sandra

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/18/01 12:26:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, happihopper@... writes:

Helen. Call the police. Please. He has no right to do that. please hun. I will be praying for you and your babies. And for peace knowing that it all will be resolved. :Bless you sandra ~~~~

Ditto. He may have legal custody of them, but he left them with you and custody or not he cannot just take them that way. He also cannot treat you that way. Calm down and call the police in the morning. Get a lawyer as quickly as possible also. One thing that is in your favor, if they have documented medical problems and he is not treating them, he *will* lose any custody he has.

I know you have many illnesses, but you do NOT have to take this abuse. If you do not believe he will care for them (and it doesn't sound like he will), you can at least get them away from him. If nothing else, he has abused you and possibly harmed the children by stripping them from the only 'parent' they know.

I'm sorry, I don't know much about the situation, but he cannot just disappear with them and he cannot talk to you the way he has. You may not have all the rights, but you do HAVE rights.

You told me a week ago to keep fighting, you keep fighting too. You *can* fight! Don't give up, let everything out and then fight!

Deb

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/18/01 12:37:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, angelbear1129@... writes:

We are calling our lawyer in the morning, but I already know, grandparents have no rights:o(

You better believe they DO Helen! They DO! He is only proving he is abusive by his behavior, that is going to help!

Deb

[Guest guest]

<<I need to see them and tell them I did not do this to them.>>

Helen,

You know Nana is like my mom she has raised me from birth until now (but

off and on). When my mom was mad or something didn't go her way i would

be taken from Nana, and NEVER once in my whole childhood EVER think Nana

had sent me away or asked for it to happen, even when my mother told me

that is how it went! I was taken away at the age or 2 1/2 (the first time)

and i knew Nana loved me and that she would do everything she could to get

me back and she always did even if it took a while i ALWAYS knew she loved

me and I ALWAYS knew who was behind me being taken away! Kids are smart and

can see through lies!!! Please don't give up Helen! You can do this!

Jessi () 17 y/o

> [Original Message]

> From: <angelbear1129@...>

> < >

> Date: 8/18/2001 3:35:38 AM

> Subject: Re: Maybe my last post (

>

> He has legal custody, I only have power of attorney, but they have lived

> with me since they were each born, they are not going to take this well

at

> all:o( I need to see them and tell them I did not do this to them. I

didn't

> ask to raise them it just happened. But I wouldn't trade it for

anything, as

> I grew to love them as my own. Now he wants his family as it breaks his

> heart to leave them behind each nigh he says. But he wasn't here that

much,

> and I didn't ask him to leave last Nov. when he did. We are calling our

> lawyer in the morning, but I already know, grandparents have no rights:o(

> helen

>

>

> Helen. Call the police. Please. He has no right to do that. please hun. I

> will be praying for you and your babies. And for peace knowing that it

all

> will be resolved. :Bless you

> sandra

>

>

> [unable to display image]>

>

>           I may never see tomorrow;

>       there's no written guarantee,

> And things that happened yesterday                 belong to

history!!!

> {{{Sent With Many Hugs}}}

>                  Helen

>

>      

>         

>

--- Jmducky

--- jmduc

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/18/01 5:39:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, sue_halperson@... writes:

Do unsub. at this point...

Do *NOT*

Deb

[Guest guest]

Helen, How are things going this AM?? I am so sorry to hear that you have to go through something like this.

You are a very caring, thoughtful person and he should be ashamed of what he is doing to them. Have faith, contact a Lawyer, there are lawyers out there who will help at no cost, it is just a matter of finding one.

I am here for you. May God bless you and keep you strong. Marsha

[Guest guest]

Oooh Helen I can't believe this happening to you hon, wish I could do something for you, but just wanted you to know I am here for ya and send lots of love and hugs. You hang in there and keep fighting.

Anyone who knows you, knows you love those girls and have taken good care of them.

Thinking of you

Lots opf love

Nerys

[Guest guest]

Helen,

As a child who was bounced from parent to parent in very unstable situations, I KNOW that the girls know who you are, and that you have always been there for them. This man, regardless of his parental rights, has no right to uproot the children out of a stable home, and this is a legal fact. I know strength is hard to find in situations like this, but I'm sending you all the strength I have for this. Those girls need you, just like you need them. Fight for them, Helen! This man does not DESERVE those kids, YOU do! I can tell you from experience that parental rights mean exactly sh*t when the parents have history of negligence, abuse, and being unstable. You have provided what those kids need, and you have a legal right to them. Go after this man...go after him now. I have been in this EXACT situation Helen....I ended up with my grandma. I sincerely hope you don't leave the group, but I would understand if you did. I hope I can be a support to you like you have been to all of us, and I hope you nail this bast*rd's balls to the wall! (sorry...have very strong feelings about this) Please don't give up, and I hope I've lit some fire under you to get you energized and able to fight this man. All you can do is your best.....and nothing more.

Huge energy-sending hugs,

-----Original Message-----From: angelbear1129@... [mailto:angelbear1129@...]Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 12:19 AM Subject: Maybe my last post (Hello to all, I'm sorry but I won't be around for awhile. I am cying my eyes out as I type this. The Girls Daddy came and took the girls tonight for a sleep over. This was at three thirty. A little after nine he calls and said He is NEVER bringing them back home ( He wants to make a family now with his new girlfriend, that he has known for two and a half months, he belittled me to no end, saying I was the one making the girls sick and all my diseases were in my head ( I don't kow how I can go on at this point. I have raised them for seven years and he has lied to me constantly for the last three months ( He said that I can not see them or talk to them until he desides that it will be alright. I'm cying hysterically asking him when is that going to be? And he saaaid he doesn't know. But I am Not to go to there house or call them. They don't have their cloths or their favorite toys nothing. They don't have their meds or anything:o( I just can't handle this. I may be unsubing, I don't know. My head is hurting so hard, My heart has been torn out. The girls don't even know yet, he says he's telling them tomorrow:o( I just can't go on right now. I having a hard time seeing. I don't want the girls to think I did any of this. I Love Them So Much. Sorry to you all for not answering any posts, but I just can't. Please forgive me. I was told I was not raising them right. So I will be quiet to all for right now. I'm a mess. Helen I may never see tomorrow; there's no written guarantee, And things that happened yesterday belong to history!!! {{{Sent With Many Hugs}}} Helen ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ The Being Sick CommunityMemorial Pagehttp://www.dreamwater.net/lovingmemory/Message Archives and Digest Attachment Pictures:-/messagesChat:- Scheduled Daily Chats at # on IRC DALnet./files/chat.htmBookmarks:-Add a website URL you have found useful./linksPersonal Complaints or problems:-Please contact a moderator email: -owner Subscription Details:-1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive.2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email.3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into eGroups at your convenience and receive no email.To modify your subscription settings please visit:- /joinTo subscribe or unsubscribe please email:--subscribe -unsubscribe ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~“Hold on to what is good, even if it's a handful of earth. Hold on to what you believe, even if it's a tree that stands by itself. Hold on to what you must do even, if it's a long way from here. Hold on to your life, even if it's easier to let go." - Pueblo Prayer~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~

[Guest guest]

I know this will be very difficult for you. But you

must gather the stregnth...get a lawyer...your

children have been wrongfully removed from your

home...In addition, he has proven that he lacks

concern for them as he took them without their meds!!!

Get angry!!! Do not however, tell him what you are

doing...just do it!

My thoughts and prayers are with you and I feel

certain that GOD and the law will both work in your

favor...but you really must act quickly. Good luck,

please keep us informed. Do unsub. at this point...we

are here to help...even if we can only listen. Also,

before I forget, we all know that the illness' are NOT

in your head...so don't let him make you doubt

yourself. You must be strong for now. Take care. Good

luck. Sue

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Helen On Monday get to the family court pronto Anne

[Guest guest]

Helen,

I dont know what state you live in but granparents do have rights especially when they have had the children as long as you have had. Have not been here long enough to address this adequately but do not give up, nor give in. Hope your atty will help. carol

On Sat, 18 Aug 2001 03:35:31 EDT angelbear1129@... writes:

He has legal custody, I only have power of attorney, but they have lived with me since they were each born, they are not going to take this well at all:o( I need to see them and tell them I did not do this to them. I didn't ask to raise them it just happened. But I wouldn't trade it for anything, as I grew to love them as my own. Now he wants his family as it breaks his heart to leave them behind each nigh he says. But he wasn't here that much, and I didn't ask him to leave last Nov. when he did. We are calling our lawyer in the morning, but I already know, grandparents have no rights:o( helen Helen. Call the police. Please. He has no right to do that. please hun. I will be praying for you and your babies. And for peace knowing that it all will be resolved. :Bless you sandra I may never see tomorrow; there's no written guarantee, And things that happened yesterday belong to history!!! {{{Sent With Many Hugs}}} Helen ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ The Being Sick CommunityMemorial Pagehttp://www.dreamwater.net/lovingmemory/Message Archives and Digest Attachment Pictures:-/messagesChat:- Scheduled Daily Chats at # on IRC DALnet./files/chat.htmBookmarks:-Add a website URL you have found useful./linksPersonal Complaints or problems:-Please contact a moderator email: -owner Subscription Details:-1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive.2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email.3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into eGroups at your convenience and receive no email.To modify your subscription settings please visit:- /joinTo subscribe or unsubscribe please email:--subscribe -unsubscribe ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~“Hold on to what is good, even if it's a handful of earth. Hold on to what you believe, even if it's a tree that stands by itself. Hold on to what you must do even, if it's a long way from here. Hold on to your life, even if it's easier to let go." - Pueblo Prayer~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~

[Guest guest]

Helen....how ya doing hon????? Keep us posted and know that we are all thinking

about you through this trying time....you are loved.

Chelle

[Guest guest]

Dear Helen,

I am so shocked to hear that this is happening to you..... have you contacted your lawyer already! stay strong, I know this is very hard to bear, but you need to stay calm and strong to face the situation. You have the right to take care of the kids, after all this is what YOU have been doing, not that guy.

Please do not unsub.... we are here to help if we can and to support you!

Take great care....

Ling

Maybe my last post (

Hello to all, I'm sorry but I won't be around for awhile. I am cying my eyes out as I type this. The Girls Daddy came and took the girls tonight for a sleep over. This was at three thirty. A little after nine he calls and said He is NEVER bringing them back home ( He wants to make a family now with his new girlfriend, that he has known for two and a half months, he belittled me to no end, saying I was the one making the girls sick and all my diseases were in my head ( I don't kow how I can go on at this point. I have raised them for seven years and he has lied to me constantly for the last three months ( He said that I can not see them or talk to them until he desides that it will be alright. I'm cying hysterically asking him when is that going to be? And he saaaid he doesn't know. But I am Not to go to there house or call them. They don't have their cloths or their favorite toys nothing. They don't have their meds or anything:o( I just can't handle this. I may be unsubing, I don't know. My head is hurting so hard, My heart has been torn out. The girls don't even know yet, he says he's telling them tomorrow:o( I just can't go on right now. I having a hard time seeing. I don't want the girls to think I did any of this. I Love Them So Much. Sorry to you all for not answering any posts, but I just can't. Please forgive me. I was told I was not raising them right. So I will be quiet to all for right now. I'm a mess. Helen

[Guest guest]

Hi Helen

I want you to know Im praying for you and do everything you can at this time to

get them back, YOU DO have rights Everyone on the list loves you and we're

pulling for you Big Hugs Colleen

[Guest guest]

Hello Helen! I'm so sorry you have to go through all of this....I wish I were there to help you & give you the hugs you so deserve!!! You are such a loving grandmother & your grandchildren know it....even if you can't see them,.....you are in their heart...don't forget that they love you too. Stay strong & fight for what is right....Take care of yourself & hang in there!

{{{HUGE HUGS}}}

Love,

Barb

Maybe my last post (

Hello to all, I'm sorry but I won't be around for awhile. I am cying my eyes out as I type this. The Girls Daddy came and took the girls tonight for a sleep over. This was at three thirty. A little after nine he calls and said He is NEVER bringing them back home ( He wants to make a family now with his new girlfriend, that he has known for two and a half months, he belittled me to no end, saying I was the one making the girls sick and all my diseases were in my head ( I don't kow how I can go on at this point. I have raised them for seven years and he has lied to me constantly for the last three months ( He said that I can not see them or talk to them until he desides that it will be alright. I'm cying hysterically asking him when is that going to be? And he saaaid he doesn't know. But I am Not to go to there house or call them. They don't have their cloths or their favorite toys nothing. They don't have their meds or anything:o( I just can't handle this. I may be unsubing, I don't know. My head is hurting so hard, My heart has been torn out. The girls don't even know yet, he says he's telling them tomorrow:o( I just can't go on right now. I having a hard time seeing. I don't want the girls to think I did any of this. I Love Them So Much. Sorry to you all for not answering any posts, but I just can't. Please forgive me. I was told I was not raising them right. So I will be quiet to all for right now. I'm a mess. Helen I may never see tomorrow; there's no written guarantee, And things that happened yesterday belong to history!!! {{{Sent With Many Hugs}}} Helen ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ The Being Sick CommunityMemorial Pagehttp://www.dreamwater.net/lovingmemory/Message Archives and Digest Attachment Pictures:-/messagesChat:- Scheduled Daily Chats at # on IRC DALnet./files/chat.htmBookmarks:-Add a website URL you have found useful./linksPersonal Complaints or problems:-Please contact a moderator email: -owner Subscription Details:-1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive.2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email.3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into eGroups at your convenience and receive no email.To modify your subscription settings please visit:- /joinTo subscribe or unsubscribe please email:--subscribe -unsubscribe ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~“Hold on to what is good, even if it's a handful of earth. Hold on to what you believe, even if it's a tree that stands by itself. Hold on to what you must do even, if it's a long way from here. Hold on to your life, even if it's easier to let go." - Pueblo Prayer~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~

[Guest guest]

I am so sorry that this has happened to you. My prayers will be with you and that you get reunited with your children. You are not an unfit mother because you care. It will take time and faith , just believe that God will get done with what he has planned. I believe with all my heart that you will get the ones you love back MIke