Guest guest Posted June 18, 2002 Report Share Posted June 18, 2002 wrote: > I just have a quick question for you all. I usually > use the Myoplex lite nutrition shakes but after > getting some feedback from all of you have decided > that I am going to wean myself off of them and try > using whole food (they are getting to me money wise > also). ANYWAY..my question is this...I had one packet > of regular myoplex and I was wondering if I split it > into two servings (2 shakes) do I need to add a carb > to that meal? (the shake will be only 11 carbs) > Just curious. > I would But I'd only add half a carb.. like half an apple Serenity -- http://www.theonion.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2002 Report Share Posted June 18, 2002 Kudos to anybody who actually has the time/inclination to make 6 meals a day! I see no point in splitting the Myo - a little extra protein is fine. It has the same amt of carbs as the myo lite. 1/2 a myo and 1/2 apple (as some suggested adding 1/2 a carb) will most likely leave you hungry and looking for more food. If you get to the point where you have to worry about splitting apples in half, you have gone too far...... On my first 3 Challenges, I used Myo and Myo Lite (depending on my mood) - I even added a few strawberries , 1/2 banana, or even soem peantu butter into the shakes, and I NEVER took Udo's. I lost 25 pounds of fat, and gained 5 pounds of muscle. PLEASE - PEOPLE! Stop worrying about every little thing - you will make yourselves crazy! Jill **no way can I live on 1/2 a myo shake and 1/2 an apple as a meal for Life (Yes - this is body for LIFE) > I just have a quick question for you all. I usually > use the Myoplex lite nutrition shakes but after > getting some feedback from all of you have decided > that I am going to wean myself off of them and try > using whole food (they are getting to me money wise > also). ANYWAY..my question is this...I had one packet > of regular myoplex and I was wondering if I split it > into two servings (2 shakes) do I need to add a carb > to that meal? (the shake will be only 11 carbs) > Just curious. > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2002 Report Share Posted June 18, 2002 Point well taken. I guess it is rather silly to worry about such trivial things. You say you have done three challenges, are you to your goal yet? I am in the 11th week of my first challenge and slowly but surely I am getting the results I am looking for, I am not one to rush though, I enjoy my free days and let the weight slowly drop off. What have been the secrets to your success? --- haftaski77 <no_reply > wrote: > Kudos to anybody who actually has the > time/inclination to make 6 > meals a day! > > I see no point in splitting the Myo - a little extra > protein is > fine. It has the same amt of carbs as the myo lite. > 1/2 a myo and > 1/2 apple (as some suggested adding 1/2 a carb) will > most likely > leave you hungry and looking for more food. > > If you get to the point where you have to worry > about splitting > apples in half, you have gone too far...... > > On my first 3 Challenges, I used Myo and Myo Lite > (depending on my > mood) - I even added a few strawberries , 1/2 > banana, or even soem > peantu butter into the shakes, and I NEVER took > Udo's. I lost 25 > pounds of fat, and gained 5 pounds of muscle. > > PLEASE - PEOPLE! Stop worrying about every little > thing - you will > make yourselves crazy! > > > Jill > > **no way can I live on 1/2 a myo shake and 1/2 an > apple as a meal for > Life (Yes - this is body for LIFE) > > > > > > > I just have a quick question for you all. I > usually > > use the Myoplex lite nutrition shakes but after > > getting some feedback from all of you have decided > > that I am going to wean myself off of them and try > > using whole food (they are getting to me money > wise > > also). ANYWAY..my question is this...I had one > packet > > of regular myoplex and I was wondering if I split > it > > into two servings (2 shakes) do I need to add a > carb > > to that meal? (the shake will be only 11 carbs) > > Just curious. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2002 Report Share Posted June 18, 2002 Ditto, Jill. Rita Re: Regular Myoplex Kudos to anybody who actually has the time/inclination to make 6 meals a day! I see no point in splitting the Myo - a little extra protein is fine. It has the same amt of carbs as the myo lite. 1/2 a myo and 1/2 apple (as some suggested adding 1/2 a carb) will most likely leave you hungry and looking for more food. If you get to the point where you have to worry about splitting apples in half, you have gone too far...... On my first 3 Challenges, I used Myo and Myo Lite (depending on my mood) - I even added a few strawberries , 1/2 banana, or even soem peantu butter into the shakes, and I NEVER took Udo's. I lost 25 pounds of fat, and gained 5 pounds of muscle. PLEASE - PEOPLE! Stop worrying about every little thing - you will make yourselves crazy! Jill **no way can I live on 1/2 a myo shake and 1/2 an apple as a meal for Life (Yes - this is body for LIFE) > I just have a quick question for you all. I usually > use the Myoplex lite nutrition shakes but after > getting some feedback from all of you have decided > that I am going to wean myself off of them and try > using whole food (they are getting to me money wise > also). ANYWAY..my question is this...I had one packet > of regular myoplex and I was wondering if I split it > into two servings (2 shakes) do I need to add a carb > to that meal? (the shake will be only 11 carbs) > Just curious. > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2002 Report Share Posted June 18, 2002 I think, honestly, you can split the myo in half and NOT add any carbs to the meal. Isn't Myoplex balanced as far as protein and carbs go? The only reason I could think to split them is if you're watching your calories. Which is why, when I drink shakes (not very often), I drink the lites. ALSO, I HATE the regular ones...they taste like cake batter. This whole program (ANY weight loss program) is calories in/calories out. So, I can see the need for splitting a shake in half. I think cutting shakes out of the plan is a great idea. How hard is it to scoop some cottage cheese onto a plate and eat an apple? I DO take a shake once in a great while, when I haven't planned well or am in a real bind. Other than that, I'm not big on them. There is no way I can be convinced that liquid nutrition is better than whole foods, ever. Kudos to you!! Astra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2002 Report Share Posted June 18, 2002 Yes, you should add some 10-15 grams of carb to that shake. Park Regular Myoplex I just have a quick question for you all. I usually use the Myoplex lite nutrition shakes but after getting some feedback from all of you have decided that I am going to wean myself off of them and try using whole food (they are getting to me money wise also). ANYWAY..my question is this...I had one packet of regular myoplex and I was wondering if I split it into two servings (2 shakes) do I need to add a carb to that meal? (the shake will be only 11 carbs) Just curious. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 On my first challenge I used Myo-Delux, split it in half an had fruit on the side. I was happier doing that than having only a shake. The skakes never made me feel like I had really eaten (psycological, I know), and because they have added iron, I needed the extra fiber from the fuit to...well...keep things moving... Alys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 astramari02 wrote: > I think, honestly, you can split the myo in half and NOT add any > carbs to the meal. Isn't Myoplex balanced as far as protein and > carbs go? The only reason I could think to split them is if you're > watching your calories. Which is why, when I drink shakes (not very > often), I drink the lites. ALSO, I HATE the regular ones...they > taste like cake batter. Nope. It's 42 g of protein and 24 of carbs. When we actually used them I'd split them since I couldn't drink more than 1/2 at a time Serenity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 --- In @y..., " astramari02 " <lorancea@h...> > > This whole program (ANY weight loss program) is calories in/calories > out. So, I can see the need for splitting a shake in half. You must be talking about another plan. BFL is NOT *specifically* about calories in/caloires out. The plan (wrt nutrition) is about PORTION control. The BFL book does NOT mention ANYTHING about counting calories, except to mention that it is not how to control the nutrition part of the program. > I think cutting shakes out of the plan is a great idea. How hard is it to scoop some cottage cheese onto a plate and eat an apple? > If you already carry a gym bag full of stuff and don't have access to a fridge, it can be quite a pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 Portion control IS a way to control calories. Plain and simple, but calorie control none-the-less. For ANY weight loss program to be successful, you must have a caloric deficit. That's just a fact. I think many people would agree that BFL falls a bit short on explaining nutrition. It is 'dumbed down' for those that either don't want to fool with it, don't have the time or really don't care. I just happen to be a bit more interested in the nutrition portion of the program, so have tried to educate myself as much as possible on what my body needs to be successful. Plus, alot of people blow this portion control thing to hell. Do you know how many people are using CUPS of rice or whatever for their carb portion? For a normal sized woman, that is just too much. I did that water displacement thing with my husband. My fist displaced a cup and so did his. I am definitely NOT supposed to be eating a cup of anything at one meal. I think portions can be confusing and can slowly inch up to big portions when you're hungry. This is all just my opinion. Some people are GREAT at using only the portions. I will always maintain that RELYING on shakes and bars can inhibit progress on this program. I wouldn't discourage people from using them, because I WILL if I'm out of time or in a bind without a fridge as you pointed out below. That's all well and good. BUT, I would not have them as a PLANNED meal. That's just me. We could debate this issue forever. The original poster wanted information on using the rest of her shakes. I was mistaken about the protein/carb ratios in regular myoplex...the lites are perfectly balanced and that's what I'm used to having. Calories MUST be somewhat important on this plan if they even MAKE a lite. Thanks, Astra > --- In @y..., " astramari02 " <lorancea@h...> > > > > This whole program (ANY weight loss program) is calories > in/calories > > out. So, I can see the need for splitting a shake in half. > > You must be talking about another plan. BFL is NOT *specifically* > about calories in/caloires out. The plan (wrt nutrition) is about > PORTION control. The BFL book does NOT mention ANYTHING about > counting calories, except to mention that it is not how to control > the nutrition part of the program. > > > > > > > I think cutting shakes out of the plan is a great idea. How hard > is it to scoop some cottage cheese onto a plate and eat an apple? > > > If you already carry a gym bag full of stuff and don't have access > to a fridge, it can be quite a pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 Today is my first day without any supplements for meals, we will see how I do, it shouldn't be a big deal. I have decided though to just have 3/4 of a cup of cottage cheese before bed, I really don't think I NEED the extra carbs and I am never really hungry for that last meal to add anymore food (that is why it is hard for me to switch from a shake to real food, the shakes don't make me feel as full and besides after two trips to the bathroom I have lost any feeling of full I may have had) You are saying that you shouldn't be eating cups of anything at any meal, what about veggies? Everyone kept saying to up my veggies so I did to probably about two cups of broccoli at dinner, now I hear you say about not eating cups of anything. I guess it is all a matter of what works for each person, if a person is not seeing any results then cutting down their portions probably isn't a bad idea. I will say that it all gets rather confusing and when you try to take everyones advice it makes you want to scream, it seems that there are a lot of different opinions, I guess that is when you just go with what is best for self. ;-) --- astramari02 <lorancea@...> wrote: > Portion control IS a way to control calories. Plain > and simple, but > calorie control none-the-less. For ANY weight loss > program to be > successful, you must have a caloric deficit. That's > just a fact. I > think many people would agree that BFL falls a bit > short on > explaining nutrition. It is 'dumbed down' for those > that either > don't want to fool with it, don't have the time or > really don't > care. I just happen to be a bit more interested in > the nutrition > portion of the program, so have tried to educate > myself as much as > possible on what my body needs to be successful. > > Plus, alot of people blow this portion control thing > to hell. Do you > know how many people are using CUPS of rice or > whatever for their > carb portion? For a normal sized woman, that is > just too much. I > did that water displacement thing with my husband. > My fist displaced > a cup and so did his. I am definitely NOT supposed > to be eating a > cup of anything at one meal. I think portions can > be confusing and > can slowly inch up to big portions when you're > hungry. This is all > just my opinion. Some people are GREAT at using > only the portions. > > I will always maintain that RELYING on shakes and > bars can inhibit > progress on this program. I wouldn't discourage > people from using > them, because I WILL if I'm out of time or in a bind > without a fridge > as you pointed out below. That's all well and good. > BUT, I would > not have them as a PLANNED meal. That's just me. > > We could debate this issue forever. The original > poster wanted > information on using the rest of her shakes. I was > mistaken about > the protein/carb ratios in regular myoplex...the > lites are perfectly > balanced and that's what I'm used to having. > Calories MUST be > somewhat important on this plan if they even MAKE a > lite. > > Thanks, > > Astra > > > > > > > --- In @y..., " astramari02 " > <lorancea@h...> > > > > > > This whole program (ANY weight loss program) is > calories > > in/calories > > > out. So, I can see the need for splitting a > shake in half. > > > > You must be talking about another plan. BFL is NOT > *specifically* > > about calories in/caloires out. The plan (wrt > nutrition) is about > > PORTION control. The BFL book does NOT mention > ANYTHING about > > counting calories, except to mention that it is > not how to control > > the nutrition part of the program. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think cutting shakes out of the plan is a > great idea. How hard > > is it to scoop some cottage cheese onto a plate > and eat an apple? > > > > > If you already carry a gym bag full of stuff and > don't have access > > to a fridge, it can be quite a pain. > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 In my mind and book, veggies are free. The 'cup' measurement was in reference to carbs. Sorry about the confusion. Girl, I eat the crap out of veggies...especially low carb ones like broccoli and spinach. Go for it! There are tons of different opinions. My biggest concern is that someone will follow the program to a T, even when it's not working for them. If something isn't working for me, I experiment and research until it does. Good luck to you! Astra > > > --- In @y..., " astramari02 " > > <lorancea@h...> > > > > > > > > This whole program (ANY weight loss program) is > > calories > > > in/calories > > > > out. So, I can see the need for splitting a > > shake in half. > > > > > > You must be talking about another plan. BFL is NOT > > *specifically* > > > about calories in/caloires out. The plan (wrt > > nutrition) is about > > > PORTION control. The BFL book does NOT mention > > ANYTHING about > > > counting calories, except to mention that it is > > not how to control > > > the nutrition part of the program. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think cutting shakes out of the plan is a > > great idea. How hard > > > is it to scoop some cottage cheese onto a plate > > and eat an apple? > > > > > > > If you already carry a gym bag full of stuff and > > don't have access > > > to a fridge, it can be quite a pain. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 wrote: > Today is my first day without any supplements for > meals, we will see how I do, it shouldn't be a big > deal. I have decided though to just have 3/4 of a cup > of cottage cheese before bed, I really don't think I > NEED the extra carbs and I am never really hungry for > that last meal to add anymore food (that is why it is > hard for me to switch from a shake to real food, the > shakes don't make me feel as full and besides after > two trips to the bathroom I have lost any feeling of > full I may have had) > You are saying that you shouldn't be eating cups of > anything at any meal, what about veggies? Everyone > kept saying to up my veggies so I did to probably > about two cups of broccoli at dinner, now I hear you > say about not eating cups of anything. I guess it is > all a matter of what works for each person, if a > person is not seeing any results then cutting down > their portions probably isn't a bad idea. > I will say that it all gets rather confusing and when > you try to take everyones advice it makes you want to > scream, it seems that there are a lot of different > opinions, I guess that is when you just go with what > is best for self. ;-) > I eat a cup of everything at meals.. and I'm seeing progress. Stick with the book.. keep it simple.. and you'll see results Serenity -- http://www.theonion.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 I don't think anyone meant veggies when talking about not eating a cup of anything. But you are right - there are loads of opinions here and you have to decide what is going to work for you. Some use the shakes (I do but not every day) some don't at all ... this is something you are going to have to figure out for yourself. Rita Re: Re: Regular Myoplex Today is my first day without any supplements for meals, we will see how I do, it shouldn't be a big deal. I have decided though to just have 3/4 of a cup of cottage cheese before bed, I really don't think I NEED the extra carbs and I am never really hungry for that last meal to add anymore food (that is why it is hard for me to switch from a shake to real food, the shakes don't make me feel as full and besides after two trips to the bathroom I have lost any feeling of full I may have had) You are saying that you shouldn't be eating cups of anything at any meal, what about veggies? Everyone kept saying to up my veggies so I did to probably about two cups of broccoli at dinner, now I hear you say about not eating cups of anything. I guess it is all a matter of what works for each person, if a person is not seeing any results then cutting down their portions probably isn't a bad idea. I will say that it all gets rather confusing and when you try to take everyones advice it makes you want to scream, it seems that there are a lot of different opinions, I guess that is when you just go with what is best for self. ;-) --- astramari02 <lorancea@...> wrote: > Portion control IS a way to control calories. Plain > and simple, but > calorie control none-the-less. For ANY weight loss > program to be > successful, you must have a caloric deficit. That's > just a fact. I > think many people would agree that BFL falls a bit > short on > explaining nutrition. It is 'dumbed down' for those > that either > don't want to fool with it, don't have the time or > really don't > care. I just happen to be a bit more interested in > the nutrition > portion of the program, so have tried to educate > myself as much as > possible on what my body needs to be successful. > > Plus, alot of people blow this portion control thing > to hell. Do you > know how many people are using CUPS of rice or > whatever for their > carb portion? For a normal sized woman, that is > just too much. I > did that water displacement thing with my husband. > My fist displaced > a cup and so did his. I am definitely NOT supposed > to be eating a > cup of anything at one meal. I think portions can > be confusing and > can slowly inch up to big portions when you're > hungry. This is all > just my opinion. Some people are GREAT at using > only the portions. > > I will always maintain that RELYING on shakes and > bars can inhibit > progress on this program. I wouldn't discourage > people from using > them, because I WILL if I'm out of time or in a bind > without a fridge > as you pointed out below. That's all well and good. > BUT, I would > not have them as a PLANNED meal. That's just me. > > We could debate this issue forever. The original > poster wanted > information on using the rest of her shakes. I was > mistaken about > the protein/carb ratios in regular myoplex...the > lites are perfectly > balanced and that's what I'm used to having. > Calories MUST be > somewhat important on this plan if they even MAKE a > lite. > > Thanks, > > Astra > > > > > > > --- In @y..., " astramari02 " > <lorancea@h...> > > > > > > This whole program (ANY weight loss program) is > calories > > in/calories > > > out. So, I can see the need for splitting a > shake in half. > > > > You must be talking about another plan. BFL is NOT > *specifically* > > about calories in/caloires out. The plan (wrt > nutrition) is about > > PORTION control. The BFL book does NOT mention > ANYTHING about > > counting calories, except to mention that it is > not how to control > > the nutrition part of the program. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think cutting shakes out of the plan is a > great idea. How hard > > is it to scoop some cottage cheese onto a plate > and eat an apple? > > > > > If you already carry a gym bag full of stuff and > don't have access > > to a fridge, it can be quite a pain. > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 You and me both, I LOVE me some broccoli, I am afraid my skin is going to turn green I eat it so much,. Oh well, I will be a good muscular looking green woman. thanks for the help Astra, I appreciate it. Mel --- astramari02 <lorancea@...> wrote: > In my mind and book, veggies are free. The 'cup' > measurement was in > reference to carbs. Sorry about the confusion. > Girl, I eat the crap > out of veggies...especially low carb ones like > broccoli and spinach. > Go for it! > > There are tons of different opinions. My biggest > concern is that > someone will follow the program to a T, even when > it's not working > for them. If something isn't working for me, I > experiment and > research until it does. > > Good luck to you! > > Astra > > > > > > > --- In @y..., > " astramari02 " > > > <lorancea@h...> > > > > > > > > > > This whole program (ANY weight loss program) > is > > > calories > > > > in/calories > > > > > out. So, I can see the need for splitting a > > > shake in half. > > > > > > > > You must be talking about another plan. BFL is > NOT > > > *specifically* > > > > about calories in/caloires out. The plan (wrt > > > > nutrition) is about > > > > PORTION control. The BFL book does NOT > mention > > > ANYTHING about > > > > counting calories, except to mention that it > is > > > not how to control > > > > the nutrition part of the program. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think cutting shakes out of the plan is a > > > great idea. How hard > > > > is it to scoop some cottage cheese onto a > plate > > > and eat an apple? > > > > > > > > > If you already carry a gym bag full of stuff > and > > > don't have access > > > > to a fridge, it can be quite a pain. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 No no no ... 1/2 cup of lowfat cottage cheese has only 5 g of carbs! Check it out. Rita Re: Re: Regular Myoplex Today is my first day without any supplements for meals, we will see how I do, it shouldn't be a big deal. I have decided though to just have 3/4 of a cup of cottage cheese before bed, I really don't think I NEED the extra carbs and I am never really hungry for that last meal to add anymore food (that is why it is hard for me to switch from a shake to real food, the shakes don't make me feel as full and besides after two trips to the bathroom I have lost any feeling of full I may have had) You are saying that you shouldn't be eating cups of anything at any meal, what about veggies? Everyone kept saying to up my veggies so I did to probably about two cups of broccoli at dinner, now I hear you say about not eating cups of anything. I guess it is all a matter of what works for each person, if a person is not seeing any results then cutting down their portions probably isn't a bad idea. I will say that it all gets rather confusing and when you try to take everyones advice it makes you want to scream, it seems that there are a lot of different opinions, I guess that is when you just go with what is best for self. ;-) --- astramari02 <lorancea@...> wrote: > Portion control IS a way to control calories. Plain > and simple, but > calorie control none-the-less. For ANY weight loss > program to be > successful, you must have a caloric deficit. That's > just a fact. I > think many people would agree that BFL falls a bit > short on > explaining nutrition. It is 'dumbed down' for those > that either > don't want to fool with it, don't have the time or > really don't > care. I just happen to be a bit more interested in > the nutrition > portion of the program, so have tried to educate > myself as much as > possible on what my body needs to be successful. > > Plus, alot of people blow this portion control thing > to hell. Do you > know how many people are using CUPS of rice or > whatever for their > carb portion? For a normal sized woman, that is > just too much. I > did that water displacement thing with my husband. > My fist displaced > a cup and so did his. I am definitely NOT supposed > to be eating a > cup of anything at one meal. I think portions can > be confusing and > can slowly inch up to big portions when you're > hungry. This is all > just my opinion. Some people are GREAT at using > only the portions. > > I will always maintain that RELYING on shakes and > bars can inhibit > progress on this program. I wouldn't discourage > people from using > them, because I WILL if I'm out of time or in a bind > without a fridge > as you pointed out below. That's all well and good. > BUT, I would > not have them as a PLANNED meal. That's just me. > > We could debate this issue forever. The original > poster wanted > information on using the rest of her shakes. I was > mistaken about > the protein/carb ratios in regular myoplex...the > lites are perfectly > balanced and that's what I'm used to having. > Calories MUST be > somewhat important on this plan if they even MAKE a > lite. > > Thanks, > > Astra > > > > > > > --- In @y..., " astramari02 " > <lorancea@h...> > > > > > > This whole program (ANY weight loss program) is > calories > > in/calories > > > out. So, I can see the need for splitting a > shake in half. > > > > You must be talking about another plan. BFL is NOT > *specifically* > > about calories in/caloires out. The plan (wrt > nutrition) is about > > PORTION control. The BFL book does NOT mention > ANYTHING about > > counting calories, except to mention that it is > not how to control > > the nutrition part of the program. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think cutting shakes out of the plan is a > great idea. How hard > > is it to scoop some cottage cheese onto a plate > and eat an apple? > > > > > If you already carry a gym bag full of stuff and > don't have access > > to a fridge, it can be quite a pain. > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 Hey , Cottage Cheese actually has a lot of carb in it as well as protein. I like it very much for making me feel satisfied from a meal. Whitney on Chugiak, AK vaderr@... If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning. - Aird- Re: Re: Regular Myoplex Today is my first day without any supplements for meals, we will see how I do, it shouldn't be a big deal. I have decided though to just have 3/4 of a cup of cottage cheese before bed, I really don't think I NEED the extra carbs and I am never really hungry for that last meal to add anymore food (that is why it is hard for me to switch from a shake to real food, the shakes don't make me feel as full and besides after two trips to the bathroom I have lost any feeling of full I may have had) You are saying that you shouldn't be eating cups of anything at any meal, what about veggies? Everyone kept saying to up my veggies so I did to probably about two cups of broccoli at dinner, now I hear you say about not eating cups of anything. I guess it is all a matter of what works for each person, if a person is not seeing any results then cutting down their portions probably isn't a bad idea. I will say that it all gets rather confusing and when you try to take everyones advice it makes you want to scream, it seems that there are a lot of different opinions, I guess that is when you just go with what is best for self. ;-) --- astramari02 <lorancea@...> wrote: > Portion control IS a way to control calories. Plain > and simple, but > calorie control none-the-less. For ANY weight loss > program to be > successful, you must have a caloric deficit. That's > just a fact. I > think many people would agree that BFL falls a bit > short on > explaining nutrition. It is 'dumbed down' for those > that either > don't want to fool with it, don't have the time or > really don't > care. I just happen to be a bit more interested in > the nutrition > portion of the program, so have tried to educate > myself as much as > possible on what my body needs to be successful. > > Plus, alot of people blow this portion control thing > to hell. Do you > know how many people are using CUPS of rice or > whatever for their > carb portion? For a normal sized woman, that is > just too much. I > did that water displacement thing with my husband. > My fist displaced > a cup and so did his. I am definitely NOT supposed > to be eating a > cup of anything at one meal. I think portions can > be confusing and > can slowly inch up to big portions when you're > hungry. This is all > just my opinion. Some people are GREAT at using > only the portions. > > I will always maintain that RELYING on shakes and > bars can inhibit > progress on this program. I wouldn't discourage > people from using > them, because I WILL if I'm out of time or in a bind > without a fridge > as you pointed out below. That's all well and good. > BUT, I would > not have them as a PLANNED meal. That's just me. > > We could debate this issue forever. The original > poster wanted > information on using the rest of her shakes. I was > mistaken about > the protein/carb ratios in regular myoplex...the > lites are perfectly > balanced and that's what I'm used to having. > Calories MUST be > somewhat important on this plan if they even MAKE a > lite. > > Thanks, > > Astra > > > > > > > --- In @y..., " astramari02 " > <lorancea@h...> > > > > > > This whole program (ANY weight loss program) is > calories > > in/calories > > > out. So, I can see the need for splitting a > shake in half. > > > > You must be talking about another plan. BFL is NOT > *specifically* > > about calories in/caloires out. The plan (wrt > nutrition) is about > > PORTION control. The BFL book does NOT mention > ANYTHING about > > counting calories, except to mention that it is > not how to control > > the nutrition part of the program. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think cutting shakes out of the plan is a > great idea. How hard > > is it to scoop some cottage cheese onto a plate > and eat an apple? > > > > > If you already carry a gym bag full of stuff and > don't have access > > to a fridge, it can be quite a pain. > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 1/2 cup of WHOLE fat cottage cheese has only 3 measly grams of carbs. It's NOT carb heavy. > > > --- In @y..., " astramari02 " > > <lorancea@h...> > > > > > > > > This whole program (ANY weight loss program) is > > calories > > > in/calories > > > > out. So, I can see the need for splitting a > > shake in half. > > > > > > You must be talking about another plan. BFL is NOT > > *specifically* > > > about calories in/caloires out. The plan (wrt > > nutrition) is about > > > PORTION control. The BFL book does NOT mention > > ANYTHING about > > > counting calories, except to mention that it is > > not how to control > > > the nutrition part of the program. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think cutting shakes out of the plan is a > > great idea. How hard > > > is it to scoop some cottage cheese onto a plate > > and eat an apple? > > > > > > > If you already carry a gym bag full of stuff and > > don't have access > > > to a fridge, it can be quite a pain. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 (didn't have any whole fat cc to check! lol) Re: Regular Myoplex 1/2 cup of WHOLE fat cottage cheese has only 3 measly grams of carbs. It's NOT carb heavy. > > > --- In @y..., " astramari02 " > > <lorancea@h...> > > > > > > > > This whole program (ANY weight loss program) is > > calories > > > in/calories > > > > out. So, I can see the need for splitting a > > shake in half. > > > > > > You must be talking about another plan. BFL is NOT > > *specifically* > > > about calories in/caloires out. The plan (wrt > > nutrition) is about > > > PORTION control. The BFL book does NOT mention > > ANYTHING about > > > counting calories, except to mention that it is > > not how to control > > > the nutrition part of the program. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think cutting shakes out of the plan is a > > great idea. How hard > > > is it to scoop some cottage cheese onto a plate > > and eat an apple? > > > > > > > If you already carry a gym bag full of stuff and > > don't have access > > > to a fridge, it can be quite a pain. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 quick question, do we count the carbs in our protein (e.g. cottage cheese) towards our carb for the meal? I know whenever I eat Boca (or any soy) burgers I count those carbs because they are rather high but I wasn't sure about other stuff, --- ribar <ribar@...> wrote: > No no no ... 1/2 cup of lowfat cottage cheese has > only 5 g of carbs! Check it out. > Rita > Re: Re: > Regular Myoplex > > > Today is my first day without any supplements > for > meals, we will see how I do, it shouldn't be a > big > deal. I have decided though to just have 3/4 of > a cup > of cottage cheese before bed, I really don't > think I > NEED the extra carbs and I am never really > hungry for > that last meal to add anymore food (that is why > it is > hard for me to switch from a shake to real food, > the > shakes don't make me feel as full and besides > after > two trips to the bathroom I have lost any > feeling of > full I may have had) > You are saying that you shouldn't be eating cups > of > anything at any meal, what about veggies? > Everyone > kept saying to up my veggies so I did to > probably > about two cups of broccoli at dinner, now I hear > you > say about not eating cups of anything. I guess > it is > all a matter of what works for each person, if a > person is not seeing any results then cutting > down > their portions probably isn't a bad idea. > I will say that it all gets rather confusing and > when > you try to take everyones advice it makes you > want to > scream, it seems that there are a lot of > different > opinions, I guess that is when you just go with > what > is best for self. ;-) > > --- astramari02 <lorancea@...> wrote: > > Portion control IS a way to control calories. > Plain > > and simple, but > > calorie control none-the-less. For ANY weight > loss > > program to be > > successful, you must have a caloric deficit. > That's > > just a fact. I > > think many people would agree that BFL falls a > bit > > short on > > explaining nutrition. It is 'dumbed down' for > those > > that either > > don't want to fool with it, don't have the > time or > > really don't > > care. I just happen to be a bit more > interested in > > the nutrition > > portion of the program, so have tried to > educate > > myself as much as > > possible on what my body needs to be > successful. > > > > Plus, alot of people blow this portion control > thing > > to hell. Do you > > know how many people are using CUPS of rice or > > whatever for their > > carb portion? For a normal sized woman, that > is > > just too much. I > > did that water displacement thing with my > husband. > > My fist displaced > > a cup and so did his. I am definitely NOT > supposed > > to be eating a > > cup of anything at one meal. I think portions > can > > be confusing and > > can slowly inch up to big portions when you're > > hungry. This is all > > just my opinion. Some people are GREAT at > using > > only the portions. > > > > I will always maintain that RELYING on shakes > and > > bars can inhibit > > progress on this program. I wouldn't > discourage > > people from using > > them, because I WILL if I'm out of time or in > a bind > > without a fridge > > as you pointed out below. That's all well and > good. > > BUT, I would > > not have them as a PLANNED meal. That's just > me. > > > > We could debate this issue forever. The > original > > poster wanted > > information on using the rest of her shakes. > I was > > mistaken about > > the protein/carb ratios in regular > myoplex...the > > lites are perfectly > > balanced and that's what I'm used to having. > > Calories MUST be > > somewhat important on this plan if they even > MAKE a > > lite. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Astra > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In @y..., > " astramari02 " > > <lorancea@h...> > > > > > > > > This whole program (ANY weight loss > program) is > > calories > > > in/calories > > > > out. So, I can see the need for splitting > a > > shake in half. > > > > > > You must be talking about another plan. BFL > is NOT > > *specifically* > > > about calories in/caloires out. The plan > (wrt > > nutrition) is about > > > PORTION control. The BFL book does NOT > mention > > ANYTHING about > > > counting calories, except to mention that it > is > > not how to control > > > the nutrition part of the program. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think cutting shakes out of the plan is > a > > great idea. How hard > > > is it to scoop some cottage cheese onto a > plate > > and eat an apple? > > > > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 I, personally, don't. I usually come out with protein on top (when I enter stuff into fitday), so I don't worry about it. > > > > --- In @y..., > > " astramari02 " > > > <lorancea@h...> > > > > > > > > > > This whole program (ANY weight loss > > program) is > > > calories > > > > in/calories > > > > > out. So, I can see the need for splitting > > a > > > shake in half. > > > > > > > > You must be talking about another plan. BFL > > is NOT > > > *specifically* > > > > about calories in/caloires out. The plan > > (wrt > > > nutrition) is about > > > > PORTION control. The BFL book does NOT > > mention > > > ANYTHING about > > > > counting calories, except to mention that it > > is > > > not how to control > > > > the nutrition part of the program. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think cutting shakes out of the plan is > > a > > > great idea. How hard > > > > is it to scoop some cottage cheese onto a > > plate > > > and eat an apple? > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 Hey Astra if it helps I agree with you on this one :0) Portion control and counting calories in the end do the same thing [it's just one is put into the most simplist [sp?] form so it won't scare off the average person. But with any plan if the person over estimates either; portions [using fist/palms] or calories the person won't see results and this is because of the calorie deficit not being large enough [or in other words the amount a person eats is more than the amount of energy/cals burned through out the week through daily activities and exercise]. Even free days should be controled to some extent so if a person wants to go totaly nuts on free day then fine but then cut back a little more during the week with their portions so that at the end of the week the calorie deficit is still there...this doesn't mean that a person HAS to count if they don't want to but they should be aware that if they intend to really enjoy the free day than they need to make wise choices in the week to help compensate the damage...one way is to stay away from the over processed carbs during the week and eat the fresh fruits, whole grains [like brown rice, barley, oats etc...], and starchy veggies [within portion of course] instead. Anyways before this ends up being a lecture on what I think [ lol this is just my view on things] I will leave it at this. Joann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 wrote: > quick question, do we count the carbs in our protein > (e.g. cottage cheese) towards our carb for the meal? > I know whenever I eat Boca (or any soy) burgers I > count those carbs because they are rather high but I > wasn't sure about other stuff, > I don't. I use the authorized foods as a guideline. BP says CC is a protein.. it isn't a " protein but you've got to eat a smaller carb to make up for it " Serenity -- http://www.theonion.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 I haven't been either but I wasn't sure, just checking I guess. --- kuranes <kuranes@...> wrote: > > > wrote: > > > quick question, do we count the carbs in our > protein > > (e.g. cottage cheese) towards our carb for the > meal? > > I know whenever I eat Boca (or any soy) burgers I > > count those carbs because they are rather high but > I > > wasn't sure about other stuff, > > > > I don't. I use the authorized foods as a > guideline. BP says CC is a > protein.. it isn't a " protein but you've got to eat > a smaller carb to make up > for it " > Serenity > -- > http://www.theonion.com > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 Mel, I actually do count the carbs in cottage cheese, because there are carbs in it. I eat Knudsen's low-fat, which has 5 carbs per 1/2 cup. I usually eat 3/4 cup, so that's about 7 carbs. It's not totally carb-free like egg whites, fish or chicken. While 7 carbs probably don't matter in the end, I do like to know everything I'm eating when I'm trying to lose weight. Once I was maintaining, I didn't worry about it as much. Dani > > > > > quick question, do we count the carbs in our > > protein > > > (e.g. cottage cheese) towards our carb for the > > meal? > > > I know whenever I eat Boca (or any soy) burgers I > > > count those carbs because they are rather high but > > I > > > wasn't sure about other stuff, > > > > > > > I don't. I use the authorized foods as a > > guideline. BP says CC is a > > protein.. it isn't a " protein but you've got to eat > > a smaller carb to make up > > for it " > > Serenity > > -- > > http://www.theonion.com > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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