Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 - Since I enter all of mine on www.fitday.com I enter everything and let the program figure it all out. Not sure what others do. Rita Re: Re: > Regular Myoplex > > > Today is my first day without any supplements > for > meals, we will see how I do, it shouldn't be a > big > deal. I have decided though to just have 3/4 of > a cup > of cottage cheese before bed, I really don't > think I > NEED the extra carbs and I am never really > hungry for > that last meal to add anymore food (that is why > it is > hard for me to switch from a shake to real food, > the > shakes don't make me feel as full and besides > after > two trips to the bathroom I have lost any > feeling of > full I may have had) > You are saying that you shouldn't be eating cups > of > anything at any meal, what about veggies? > Everyone > kept saying to up my veggies so I did to > probably > about two cups of broccoli at dinner, now I hear > you > say about not eating cups of anything. I guess > it is > all a matter of what works for each person, if a > person is not seeing any results then cutting > down > their portions probably isn't a bad idea. > I will say that it all gets rather confusing and > when > you try to take everyones advice it makes you > want to > scream, it seems that there are a lot of > different > opinions, I guess that is when you just go with > what > is best for self. ;-) > > --- astramari02 <lorancea@...> wrote: > > Portion control IS a way to control calories. > Plain > > and simple, but > > calorie control none-the-less. For ANY weight > loss > > program to be > > successful, you must have a caloric deficit. > That's > > just a fact. I > > think many people would agree that BFL falls a > bit > > short on > > explaining nutrition. It is 'dumbed down' for > those > > that either > > don't want to fool with it, don't have the > time or > > really don't > > care. I just happen to be a bit more > interested in > > the nutrition > > portion of the program, so have tried to > educate > > myself as much as > > possible on what my body needs to be > successful. > > > > Plus, alot of people blow this portion control > thing > > to hell. Do you > > know how many people are using CUPS of rice or > > whatever for their > > carb portion? For a normal sized woman, that > is > > just too much. I > > did that water displacement thing with my > husband. > > My fist displaced > > a cup and so did his. I am definitely NOT > supposed > > to be eating a > > cup of anything at one meal. I think portions > can > > be confusing and > > can slowly inch up to big portions when you're > > hungry. This is all > > just my opinion. Some people are GREAT at > using > > only the portions. > > > > I will always maintain that RELYING on shakes > and > > bars can inhibit > > progress on this program. I wouldn't > discourage > > people from using > > them, because I WILL if I'm out of time or in > a bind > > without a fridge > > as you pointed out below. That's all well and > good. > > BUT, I would > > not have them as a PLANNED meal. That's just > me. > > > > We could debate this issue forever. The > original > > poster wanted > > information on using the rest of her shakes. > I was > > mistaken about > > the protein/carb ratios in regular > myoplex...the > > lites are perfectly > > balanced and that's what I'm used to having. > > Calories MUST be > > somewhat important on this plan if they even > MAKE a > > lite. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Astra > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In @y..., > " astramari02 " > > <lorancea@h...> > > > > > > > > This whole program (ANY weight loss > program) is > > calories > > > in/calories > > > > out. So, I can see the need for splitting > a > > shake in half. > > > > > > You must be talking about another plan. BFL > is NOT > > *specifically* > > > about calories in/caloires out. The plan > (wrt > > nutrition) is about > > > PORTION control. The BFL book does NOT > mention > > ANYTHING about > > > counting calories, except to mention that it > is > > not how to control > > > the nutrition part of the program. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think cutting shakes out of the plan is > a > > great idea. How hard > > > is it to scoop some cottage cheese onto a > plate > > and eat an apple? > > > > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 Yes, you should count the carbs toward your carb count for the meal. Count all carb and protein counts! Park Re: Re: > Regular Myoplex > > > Today is my first day without any supplements > for > meals, we will see how I do, it shouldn't be a > big > deal. I have decided though to just have 3/4 of > a cup > of cottage cheese before bed, I really don't > think I > NEED the extra carbs and I am never really > hungry for > that last meal to add anymore food (that is why > it is > hard for me to switch from a shake to real food, > the > shakes don't make me feel as full and besides > after > two trips to the bathroom I have lost any > feeling of > full I may have had) > You are saying that you shouldn't be eating cups > of > anything at any meal, what about veggies? > Everyone > kept saying to up my veggies so I did to > probably > about two cups of broccoli at dinner, now I hear > you > say about not eating cups of anything. I guess > it is > all a matter of what works for each person, if a > person is not seeing any results then cutting > down > their portions probably isn't a bad idea. > I will say that it all gets rather confusing and > when > you try to take everyones advice it makes you > want to > scream, it seems that there are a lot of > different > opinions, I guess that is when you just go with > what > is best for self. ;-) > > --- astramari02 <lorancea@...> wrote: > > Portion control IS a way to control calories. > Plain > > and simple, but > > calorie control none-the-less. For ANY weight > loss > > program to be > > successful, you must have a caloric deficit. > That's > > just a fact. I > > think many people would agree that BFL falls a > bit > > short on > > explaining nutrition. It is 'dumbed down' for > those > > that either > > don't want to fool with it, don't have the > time or > > really don't > > care. I just happen to be a bit more > interested in > > the nutrition > > portion of the program, so have tried to > educate > > myself as much as > > possible on what my body needs to be > successful. > > > > Plus, alot of people blow this portion control > thing > > to hell. Do you > > know how many people are using CUPS of rice or > > whatever for their > > carb portion? For a normal sized woman, that > is > > just too much. I > > did that water displacement thing with my > husband. > > My fist displaced > > a cup and so did his. I am definitely NOT > supposed > > to be eating a > > cup of anything at one meal. I think portions > can > > be confusing and > > can slowly inch up to big portions when you're > > hungry. This is all > > just my opinion. Some people are GREAT at > using > > only the portions. > > > > I will always maintain that RELYING on shakes > and > > bars can inhibit > > progress on this program. I wouldn't > discourage > > people from using > > them, because I WILL if I'm out of time or in > a bind > > without a fridge > > as you pointed out below. That's all well and > good. > > BUT, I would > > not have them as a PLANNED meal. That's just > me. > > > > We could debate this issue forever. The > original > > poster wanted > > information on using the rest of her shakes. > I was > > mistaken about > > the protein/carb ratios in regular > myoplex...the > > lites are perfectly > > balanced and that's what I'm used to having. > > Calories MUST be > > somewhat important on this plan if they even > MAKE a > > lite. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Astra > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In @y..., > " astramari02 " > > <lorancea@h...> > > > > > > > > This whole program (ANY weight loss > program) is > > calories > > > in/calories > > > > out. So, I can see the need for splitting > a > > shake in half. > > > > > > You must be talking about another plan. BFL > is NOT > > *specifically* > > > about calories in/caloires out. The plan > (wrt > > nutrition) is about > > > PORTION control. The BFL book does NOT > mention > > ANYTHING about > > > counting calories, except to mention that it > is > > not how to control > > > the nutrition part of the program. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think cutting shakes out of the plan is > a > > great idea. How hard > > > is it to scoop some cottage cheese onto a > plate > > and eat an apple? > > > > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 Astra - you are absolutely right about calorie defecit. You can not lose weight without it. I have pretty much made a list of the foods I like, the portions and just know the stats on them so I don't have to bother with really counting, it is always about the same. All weight loss programs, no matter what they say, end up being lo calorie. Even Atkins, Protein Power, Sugar Busters etc.. > > --- In @y..., " astramari02 " <lorancea@h...> > > > > > > This whole program (ANY weight loss program) is calories > > in/calories > > > out. So, I can see the need for splitting a shake in half. > > > > You must be talking about another plan. BFL is NOT *specifically* > > about calories in/caloires out. The plan (wrt nutrition) is about > > PORTION control. The BFL book does NOT mention ANYTHING about > > counting calories, except to mention that it is not how to control > > the nutrition part of the program. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think cutting shakes out of the plan is a great idea. How hard > > is it to scoop some cottage cheese onto a plate and eat an apple? > > > > > If you already carry a gym bag full of stuff and don't have access > > to a fridge, it can be quite a pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 The carbs in cottage cheese are only from lactose. Cottage cheese is so slowly absorbed and its carbs are so low glycemic that the carbs are going to have little effect. Count them if you want to, but in order to keep it simple just use one food and label it protein, carb or fat. I can handle having to count carbs in my protein food if they are of significant value but never count the protein in my carb food. I won't do it if it's too complicated. Stasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 Sounds good to me. I haven't been counting them anyhow (except for my Soy burgers) so I will just continue not to count them, cottage cheese is the only protein besides soy that I eat that contains carbs anyhow. Stasia, I have been meaning to ask, do you have any pictures posted on the web site? I was looking in there the other day and saw one of your tatoo but that was it, you seem to really be on track with this whole BFL thing and I was just wondered if you had pictures posted of your progress.:-) --- s_bachrach <s_bachrach@...> wrote: > The carbs in cottage cheese are only from lactose. > Cottage cheese is > so slowly absorbed and its carbs are so low glycemic > that the carbs > are going to have little effect. Count them if you > want to, but in > order to keep it simple just use one food and label > it protein, carb > or fat. I can handle having to count carbs in my > protein food if they > are of significant value but never count the protein > in my carb food. > I won't do it if it's too complicated. > > Stasia > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 I'm not Stasia, but I happen to know that there are a bunch of Stasia pics in the " A Work In Progress " folder of the Photo section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 there's also some(probably the same ones maybe a few more) in my briefcase on my profile. Thanks Stasia > I'm not Stasia, but I happen to know that there are a bunch of Stasia pics in > the " A Work In Progress " folder of the Photo section. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 Thanks !!!I saw your pics on your " Weirdness " site, you look fantastic, I want the cut and definition that you have in your arms. I am working towards it, getting there slowly but surely. --- Skwigg <skwigg@...> wrote: > I'm not Stasia, but I happen to know that there are > a bunch of Stasia pics in > the " A Work In Progress " folder of the Photo > section. > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 sfshadow wrote: > Astra - you are absolutely right about calorie defecit. You can not > lose weight without it. I have pretty much made a list of the foods > I like, the portions and just know the stats on them so I don't have > to bother with really counting, it is always about the same. All > weight loss programs, no matter what they say, end up being lo > calorie. Even Atkins, Protein Power, Sugar Busters etc.. > > The reason why I question the calorie deficit thing in terms of BFL is that you can't gain muscle with a deficit. And BFL is about both losing BF and gaining muscle.. so that tells me that the deficit isn't that important. But that's just my opinion and why I count nuthin' Serenity -- http://www.theonion.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 Yeah! (aka skwigg) ROCKS! Jill **Wishing Cadbury Creme Eggs were authorized. Perhaps, if we don;t eat the " yolk? " ;-) > Thanks !!!I saw your pics on your " Weirdness " > site, you look fantastic, I want the cut and > definition that you have in your arms. I am working > towards it, getting there slowly but surely. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2002 Report Share Posted June 20, 2002 haftaski77 wrote: > Yeah! (aka skwigg) ROCKS! > > Jill > > **Wishing Cadbury Creme Eggs were authorized. Perhaps, if we don;t > eat the " yolk? " ;-) Hrmm Chocolate = carb.. Yolk = protein. Sounds authorized to me *grin* Serenity -- http://www.theonion.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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