Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 I'm getting truly confused now. I was doing so well till this whole discussion started! lol Rita Re: BFL Meals- 40-40-20 Because your palm is your palm and a palm + fingers = a whole hand. Thats the way I interprete it anyways. Plus, wouldn't a whole hand of chicken be a hell of a lot of chicken? > > > for the palm portion you just look at the palm sans fingers. When > > you make a fist the fingers are included. So wouldn't the fist have > > more surface area? > > Um.. my Palm includes my fingers. Why would I leave them out? > Serenity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 I really don't think using your fingers is going to throw you off, however, I do think Bill's intent was NOT to use them. Atleast, that's what I got from the book. But, HEY...a little more protein never killed anybody.... Did it? > > > for the palm portion you just look at the palm sans fingers. When > > you make a fist the fingers are included. So wouldn't the fist have > > more surface area? > > Um.. my Palm includes my fingers. Why would I leave them out? > Serenity > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 I don't know. I think that everyone should do what is comfortable and what works for them. Personally, a whole hand would be way too much. My hand is 6.5 " in length and almost 3 " across. But my palm is 3.5 " in length. That 2 " is a 57% increase in surface area. And as it is now, I am having a hard time eating my 6 servings of palm sized protein. I did the first 2 days and was all bloated and really full. Today I used 3/4 of my palm and I feel much better. But maybe I have monsterous hands or something. Who knows. Everyone should just do what feels right. > > > > > for the palm portion you just look at the palm sans fingers. > When > > > you make a fist the fingers are included. So wouldn't the fist > have > > > more surface area? > > > > Um.. my Palm includes my fingers. Why would I leave them out? > > Serenity > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 Sorry...I suck at math...it would be a 31% increase...what did i do? > > > > > > > for the palm portion you just look at the palm sans fingers. > > When > > > > you make a fist the fingers are included. So wouldn't the > fist > > have > > > > more surface area? > > > > > > Um.. my Palm includes my fingers. Why would I leave them out? > > > Serenity > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 Whew!!! Thanx Jill. Rita Re: BFL Meals- 40-40-20 I am getting a whiff of the calorie thing all over again........ (or mayeb the glycemic/schmycemic thing) Folks - this is about making choices and controlling what you eat and how much. AGain - getting caught up in the details. Nickel and diming a million dollar solution. I have alwys taken the palm/fist to mean the following: If a food can lay flat (like a piece of chicken or fish) then you use the approximate size of your palm. (and, honestly, if you have a little more salmon, it is NOT going to be the end of the world. If a pliable or piles up - such as rice, cottage cheese, pasta, use an amount the approximate size of your fist. I really dont; stress this stuff too much. Again - if I am unsure - I strive to get the same amoutn of protein anywhere between a myo lite and a regualr myo (25 - 40 g) depening on how I am feeling. If you are having trouble with this, You can use something like fitday.com to give you an idea of how many ounces of chicken breat give you this much protein. BUT - you will NEVER cath me slicing off 1 1 " strip of the chicken breast to make it exacly 35.8 g of protein. I will eat the whole chicken breast. Again - BFL is about making good choices and progress, not absolute scientific perfection. Jill > > > > > > > > I think the 40/40/20 split came about because of the > word " Balanced " > > > in the book which to most people think of it as an equal portion > of > > > protein and carb...but if you look at the portions on the plate a > > > palm portion is definately less than a fist portion. > > > > I completely disagree My palm and my fist are exactly the > same.. just > > configured differently. This is like saying a roll of quarters is > smaller > > than a jumbled pile of the same number of quarters. :/ > > Serenity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 Nah! Thanx! Re: BFL Meals- 40-40-20 I really don't think using your fingers is going to throw you off, however, I do think Bill's intent was NOT to use them. Atleast, that's what I got from the book. But, HEY...a little more protein never killed anybody.... Did it? > > > for the palm portion you just look at the palm sans fingers. When > > you make a fist the fingers are included. So wouldn't the fist have > > more surface area? > > Um.. my Palm includes my fingers. Why would I leave them out? > Serenity > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 ROFLMAO!!! Re: BFL Meals- 40-40-20 You ARE still talkign about measuring food portions, I hope! }:-)~ > I also use palm - no fingers included! > Park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 LOL! Get your mind out of the gutter!!!! Park Re: BFL Meals- 40-40-20 You ARE still talkign about measuring food portions, I hope! }:-)~ > I also use palm - no fingers included! > Park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2002 Report Share Posted June 27, 2002 > I am getting a whiff of the calorie thing all over again........ (or > mayeb the glycemic/schmycemic thing) > > Folks - this is about making choices and controlling what you eat and > how much. AGain - getting caught up in the details. Nickel and > diming a million dollar solution. I think part of the problem, for me anyway, is that for " years " we have been told " eat this much " , weigh, measure and calculate and it's scary to let go of that and embrace a new theory. A few years ago I had a Dobe with lots of health problems and he didn't tolerate regular dog food very well. So I finally switched him to a raw diet and one of the hardest things was that there was no " weighing, measuring, etc. " ; no guidelines; no starting point like 3 cups/day, etc. Within a few months, it was easy and a " no brainer " but I remember the first few months still wanting to know how to measure/weigh to give him the right amounts. Colleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2002 Report Share Posted June 28, 2002 OMG!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!! > You ARE still talkign about measuring food portions, I hope! }:-)~ > wrote: > > I also use palm - no fingers included! > > Park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2002 Report Share Posted June 28, 2002 IMAO, I was under the impression that portions should be about 20-25 grams of protein a meal. Is this right? That's how I was measuring most of my food. So, when I eat cottage cheese, that would be a cup. Or should I rely on my palm instead?? I've often felt full after eating the cottage cheese. Did I mention I had peanut brittle on my vacation? I certainly ate more than a palm portion of it!!! (Hmm, I wonder what the protein content in peanut brittle is...) I also added my 8 week pictures to my briefcase...don't have my 'before' yet on the computer. Don't mind also that this was taken first thing in the AM since DH wanted to hurry and take it 'natural'. This is about as natural as you can get!!! Jana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2002 Report Share Posted June 28, 2002 Yes the fist has more surface space and volume. Joann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2002 Report Share Posted June 28, 2002 because fingers are fingers a palm is the front portion of a hand minus fingers and thumb. According the the Websters dictionary [just so happen to have one here due to all the kids I have and them needing it to due their school work with, hee hee]the definition of the palm in regaurds to a human hand is~ " the somewhat concave part of the human hand between the bases of the fingers and the wrist " So fingers are not included in terms of the palm measurements and the water displacement thing would not work with the palm portions. Joann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2002 Report Share Posted June 28, 2002 Alot of us use the measuring cups and spoons to figure out our portions. But it is suggested that for the first challenge that a person uses the fist/ palm method [book to a T sort of thing] so it's not over load on information due to counting cals trying to figure out how much you should realy eat etc...but if a person already has this knowledge than I think it's up to the person to decide what will work best for them. I only did the fist/ palm thing for my first challenge then switched to counting because the fist/ palm thing wasn't working for me anymore [i started out at a low body weight and an average BF%]so the palm thing just had me maintaing my current fittness levels. Joann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2002 Report Share Posted June 28, 2002 Astra~ LOL! Well if I was to use my whole hand [fingers and palms]that would be the size of a large chicken breast which is about 6oz. And my true portion size is 1/2 of that about 3oz. :0) so in my case that is doubling up on my protein. Joann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2002 Report Share Posted June 28, 2002 For all that I have read...I guess I will use my palm. My hubby was laughing when I told him that coz I have small hands...I guess I will know if its sufficient coz my body will cry for hunger if its too little. Gee, my book is not here yet...but, I will go ahead on Monday. Will keep you all updated. Thanks again & cheers, Geri > Astra~ > LOL! > Well if I was to use my whole hand [fingers and palms]that would be > the size of a large chicken breast which is about 6oz. And my true > portion size is 1/2 of that about 3oz. :0) so in my case that is > doubling up on my protein. > Joann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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