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Arta,

Please check with your own Dr. I think it always

makes sense to get a baseline of your heart's

performance.

As well, please be careful of such postings as they

can be marketing related. The best way for a new drug

to get customers is to cause Fear Uncertainty and

Doubt (FUD) in the incumbent drug. We dont want any

of that as the best way to live a long happy life with

CML is to make use of each line of therapy for as long

as it works for you. I see that has " maxmizing the

run way " .

I have grown into a happy and " healthy " skeptic of

many things. One thing I am sure is that 99.999% of

the contributions made here on this chat board are

made for the common goal of helping and healing!

Love and Mercy!

Chris

--- Arta Emushi <kaqi79@...> wrote:

> Hi to all,

>

> I was just wondering whether you have read this

> article and whether someone of you has experienced

> any heart issues from Gleevec.

>

>

>

http://www.pharmaceutical-business-review.com/article_feature.asp?guid=448181CE-\

FEC1-4A2F-8E88-B394B9BDDBF5

>

> All the best!

> Arta

> Dx: Jan/07

> Gleevec 400 mg

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> Check outnew cars at Autos.

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Arta, technically this report is true. However, its a lab study and

fortunately does not reflect real life

this was not put out by any company. I'm not sure what your

implying. The link is basically one of the many media reports that

came out last year regarding an article in Nature Medicine that

observed a possible mechanism between Gleevec and Congestive Heart

Failure. The authors had noted that CHF can be seen in CML patients

taking Gleevec and then did some studies in animals that suggested

that the ABL kinase is normally active in Heart cells and that

perhaps the drug could harm the heart.

Quite an uproar at the time. But basically many CML experts had

noted that they had never or perhaps only rarely ever seen a case of

CHF in many years with Gleevec.

A recent review was just reported from MD in Houston. They

looked back at 1276 CML patients treated with Gleevec that had been

seen there and could only find CHF in 22 patients (1.8%). These 22

patients all had some other medical conditions that may by themselves

have caused the CHF.

All in all it seems to be a case of where a lab study does not

actually equate with real life experience.

As suggested, a baseline analysis of Heart function may be

helpful but I would say more important if the patient had some other

medical conditions that can cause CHF.

>

> > Hi to all,

> >

> > I was just wondering whether you have read this

> > article and whether someone of you has experienced

> > any heart issues from Gleevec.

> >

> >

> >

> http://www.pharmaceutical-business-review.com/article_feature.asp?

guid=448181CE-FEC1-4A2F-8E88-B394B9BDDBF5

> >

> > All the best!

> > Arta

> > Dx: Jan/07

> > Gleevec 400 mg

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

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I just want to add that the number of patients found in the MD

review was slightly less than would have been expected from

the normal population of patients of the same age.

It's important for everyone to remember that people can get other

diseases and health problems while on Gleevec that aren't related to

Gleevec. I've seen too many people chalking things up to side

effects of Gleevec and ignoring potential problems because they

convince themselves it's a Gleevec side effect.

Best wishes,

Dorothy

dx 5/2000

On Apr 23, 2007, at 9:21 PM, wrote:

>

>

> A recent review was just reported from MD in Houston. They

> looked back at 1276 CML patients treated with Gleevec that had been

> seen there and could only find CHF in 22 patients (1.8%). These 22

> patients all had some other medical conditions that may by themselves

> have caused the CHF.

>

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