Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 - Its funny to get this letter as I am getting back out of bed becasue I am sick to my stomach. I suffer ALOT of gastritis with my Gleevec (800mg). I have been in the hospital for it numerous times as well as, I do home IV's once every couple weeks from the dehydration I get from massive diarrhea and nausea. I have tried to take it during the day but the overwhelming fatigue and bone pain caused me to switch to night in which I can sleep through the side effects. However, there are nights, like tonight, that I am already so nauseated before I even take the Gleevec, and have no appitate that I just end up taking a light snack and pay for it. Not always but occasionally. This is awful. I am SO nauseated, the bile is in my throat and worse if I try ti clear it and I have to sit up in bed with 4 pillows behind me. Its scary as I have always been someone afraid of choking so to have all this in my throat and stomach is eerie to me. I think that what happens to me is not what alot of people go through (I hope), so your hubby should be fine. I would recommend taking it right after supper with his meal. I tend to put it off and end up taking it too late most nights and then I pay for it. Not a smart thing to do!!! Your hubby should be able to sleep through most of the tiredness part. I wish him well. He may have to play around with it as far as times go. Best of luck. 35 CML 5\13\05 Gleevec 800mg Wife and mother of 3 (11,8,6) S. RN [ ] Gleevec Time of Day Hi all--- My husband has been on Gleevec (400mg) since last July when diagnosed, suffered severe neutropenia for 1 month and was hospitalized for 30 days. Once we got through that, and his body got used to Gleevec, things started being on the up and up. He feels really good most days, but after taking Gleevec with his lunch, gets really tired. This usually occurs around 2PM every day and then he is really tired the rest of the day. (He is currently staying home with our 1-yr. old, so that makes him tired, too!). Yes, small price to pay for otherwise feeling well and being alive! But--tonight he is trying something different (yikes!). Tonight he is taking Gleevec about an hour before bed, with cereal or oatmeal, or something rather " carby " . He is nervous, but started thinking that maybe he could try taking it at night and sleeping through the tiredness! I have seen past posts about this subject, and wanted to ask again...how many of you take Gleevec at night? Have some of you tried and it didnt work out? About 1-2 times per month my husband doesnt eat enough food with it and has gotten really nauseated, lasts about 30 minutes. I think that is what he is scared about. Any comments would be greatly appreciated... _________________________________________________________________ Like the way Microsoft Office Outlook works? You値l love Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us & ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM\ _mini_outlook_0507 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Hi and , I had wicked gastro problems with Gleevec! 8-( Both massive diarrhea and nausea. After a lot of experimenting we found Sandostatin for the diarrhea, I inject this twice a day, sometimes 3 times if needed. It has given me back some of my life anyway. I was to the point where I told my Dr. that if nothing could be found to help I was going to quit the Gleevec, I believe that Quality of life not Quantity of life is what I want. For the nausea I take 2 gravol about 1/2 to 1 hour before the Gleevec which I take at bedtime. I also find that soda crackers and gingerale both help. The Gleevec has stopped being effective for me and I am going on a drug trial for AMN107 which will hopefully work. Best wishes and I hope some of this info helps. Regards, Terry Dx Oct/02 > > - > > Its funny to get this letter as I am getting back out of bed becasue I am sick to my stomach. I suffer ALOT of gastritis with my Gleevec (800mg). I have been in the hospital for it numerous times as well as, I do home IV's once every couple weeks from the dehydration I get from massive diarrhea and nausea. > > I have tried to take it during the day but the overwhelming fatigue and bone pain caused me to switch to night in which I can sleep through the side effects. However, there are nights, like tonight, that I am already so nauseated before I even take the Gleevec, and have no appitate that I just end up taking a light snack and pay for it. Not always but occasionally. This is awful. I am SO nauseated, the bile is in my throat and worse if I try ti clear it and I have to sit up in bed with 4 pillows behind me. Its scary as I have always been someone afraid of choking so to have all this in my throat and stomach is eerie to me. > I think that what happens to me is not what alot of people go through (I hope), so your hubby should be fine. I would recommend taking it right after supper with his meal. I tend to put it off and end up taking it too late most nights and then I pay for it. Not a smart thing to do!!! > > Your hubby should be able to sleep through most of the tiredness part. I wish him well. He may have to play around with it as far as times go. Best of luck. > > 35 > CML 5\13\05 > Gleevec 800mg > Wife and mother of 3 (11,8,6) > > S. RN > > > [ ] Gleevec Time of Day > > > Hi all--- > My husband has been on Gleevec (400mg) since last July when diagnosed, > suffered severe neutropenia for 1 month and was hospitalized for 30 days. > Once we got through that, and his body got used to Gleevec, things started > being on the up and up. He feels really good most days, but after taking > Gleevec with his lunch, gets really tired. This usually occurs around 2PM > every day and then he is really tired the rest of the day. (He is currently > staying home with our 1-yr. old, so that makes him tired, too!). Yes, small > price to pay for otherwise feeling well and being alive! > > But--tonight he is trying something different (yikes!). Tonight he is taking > Gleevec about an hour before bed, with cereal or oatmeal, or something > rather " carby " . He is nervous, but started thinking that maybe he could try > taking it at night and sleeping through the tiredness! > > I have seen past posts about this subject, and wanted to ask again...how > many of you take Gleevec at night? Have some of you tried and it didnt work > out? About 1-2 times per month my husband doesnt eat enough food with it and > has gotten really nauseated, lasts about 30 minutes. I think that is what he > is scared about. > > Any comments would be greatly appreciated... > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Like the way Microsoft Office Outlook works? You値l love Windows Live > Hotmail. > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us & ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM\ _mini_outlook_0507 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Hi , I am just a lurker on this board, but I wanted to respond to your post about taking the Gleevec at night. I was diagnosed a year ago in June. I have only taken my medicine at night (400 mg). I usually take it after dinner, but dinner for me is anywhere between the hours of 5:30p and 9:00pm. I have had some problems with diarrea and just a few times with nausea, but never to a point where I felt I needed something to curb the side effects. There have been a few times where I forget my Gleevec and have taken it with a bowl of cereal or a handful of pretzels right before going to bed. Since I'm usually real tired, it never has affected me in any way. I feel very blessed as my side effects never seem to last very long and come in waves. The longest I have had any one side effect has been two weeks. I do feel tired some days and try to take it easy on those days if I can. There are also days I experience bone and joint pain (not unlike what I had before being diagnosed). Again, I take ibuprophen for it and go about my day. I wish your husband luck. I never took the Gleevec any other time of the day because I didn't want to risk having some of the side effects throughout the daytime. But so far I have had great success with it and what little side effects I've had with it have been well worth it. Caron diagnosed June, 2006 44 yrs old [ ] Gleevec Time of Day Hi all--- My husband has been on Gleevec (400mg) since last July when diagnosed, suffered severe neutropenia for 1 month and was hospitalized for 30 days. Once we got through that, and his body got used to Gleevec, things started being on the up and up. He feels really good most days, but after taking Gleevec with his lunch, gets really tired. This usually occurs around 2PM every day and then he is really tired the rest of the day. (He is currently staying home with our 1-yr. old, so that makes him tired, too!). Yes, small price to pay for otherwise feeling well and being alive! But--tonight he is trying something different (yikes!). Tonight he is taking Gleevec about an hour before bed, with cereal or oatmeal, or something rather " carby " . He is nervous, but started thinking that maybe he could try taking it at night and sleeping through the tiredness! I have seen past posts about this subject, and wanted to ask again...how many of you take Gleevec at night? Have some of you tried and it didnt work out? About 1-2 times per month my husband doesnt eat enough food with it and has gotten really nauseated, lasts about 30 minutes. I think that is what he is scared about. Any comments would be greatly appreciated... _________________________________________________________________ Like the way Microsoft Office Outlook works? You値l love Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us & ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM\ _mini_outlook_0507 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Hi , I have been on 400mg for a few weeks now. I always take it at 6:30pm- 7:00pm. I take it in the MIDDLE of my evening meal (eat half, take the pills, eat the other half). I have no side effects with it at night. The only side effects I have are a bit of water retention under my right eye (weird there is none on the left) But this goes down by mid day and Jaw Ache. But others have also experienced the Jaw ache and according to my Hemo Dr. This is common amongst me. I am tired when I wake up but can usually shake it off a bit by 9am and then I get tired again by 6-7pm (I have a 2 year old as well as a 9 year old and they wear me out right after I come home also!) But so far I have been able to still work full time taking my tablets this time of day. , just a question was your husband hospitalised for the neutropenia or something else? Why did he stay in for a month? Hope this helps. Kind Regards and Best of Luck Bill in the UK > > > > - > > > > Its funny to get this letter as I am getting back out of bed becasue > I am sick to my stomach. I suffer ALOT of gastritis with my Gleevec > (800mg). I have been in the hospital for it numerous times as well > as, I do home IV's once every couple weeks from the dehydration I get > from massive diarrhea and nausea. > > > > I have tried to take it during the day but the overwhelming fatigue > and bone pain caused me to switch to night in which I can sleep > through the side effects. However, there are nights, like tonight, > that I am already so nauseated before I even take the Gleevec, and > have no appitate that I just end up taking a light snack and pay for > it. Not always but occasionally. This is awful. I am SO nauseated, > the bile is in my throat and worse if I try ti clear it and I have to > sit up in bed with 4 pillows behind me. Its scary as I have always > been someone afraid of choking so to have all this in my throat and > stomach is eerie to me. > > I think that what happens to me is not what alot of people go > through (I hope), so your hubby should be fine. I would recommend > taking it right after supper with his meal. I tend to put it off and > end up taking it too late most nights and then I pay for it. Not a > smart thing to do!!! > > > > Your hubby should be able to sleep through most of the tiredness > part. I wish him well. He may have to play around with it as far as > times go. Best of luck. > > > > 35 > > CML 5\13\05 > > Gleevec 800mg > > Wife and mother of 3 (11,8,6) > > > > S. RN > > > > > > [ ] Gleevec Time of Day > > > > > > Hi all--- > > My husband has been on Gleevec (400mg) since last July when diagnosed, > > suffered severe neutropenia for 1 month and was hospitalized for 30 > days. > > Once we got through that, and his body got used to Gleevec, things > started > > being on the up and up. He feels really good most days, but after > taking > > Gleevec with his lunch, gets really tired. This usually occurs > around 2PM > > every day and then he is really tired the rest of the day. (He is > currently > > staying home with our 1-yr. old, so that makes him tired, too!). > Yes, small > > price to pay for otherwise feeling well and being alive! > > > > But--tonight he is trying something different (yikes!). Tonight he > is taking > > Gleevec about an hour before bed, with cereal or oatmeal, or something > > rather " carby " . He is nervous, but started thinking that maybe he > could try > > taking it at night and sleeping through the tiredness! > > > > I have seen past posts about this subject, and wanted to ask > again...how > > many of you take Gleevec at night? Have some of you tried and it > didnt work > > out? About 1-2 times per month my husband doesnt eat enough food > with it and > > has gotten really nauseated, lasts about 30 minutes. I think that is > what he > > is scared about. > > > > Any comments would be greatly appreciated... > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Like the way Microsoft Office Outlook works? You値l love Windows Live > > Hotmail. > > > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en- us & ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_outlook_0507 > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Hi , My husband takes his Gleevec in the morning with breakfast, sandwiching the pills with bites of food. I have nothing to suggest about taking it at night, since Jim doesn't do that, but I did want to suggest having your husband include food with protein and fat when he does take it. My husband is on 800mg, so he takes 400 with breakfast and 400 with dinner. If the meal is heavy on carbs and light on protein and fat, he'll become nauseous. As long as he makes sure to eat enough protein and fat, he's usually feels fine. Everyone is a little different, so your husband may have to experiment with foods, times of day, etc. Hope this suggestion helps. Good luck, Adrienne Cervera <weez_555@...> wrote: Hi all--- My husband has been on Gleevec (400mg) since last July when diagnosed, suffered severe neutropenia for 1 month and was hospitalized for 30 days. Once we got through that, and his body got used to Gleevec, things started being on the up and up. He feels really good most days, but after taking Gleevec with his lunch, gets really tired. This usually occurs around 2PM every day and then he is really tired the rest of the day. (He is currently staying home with our 1-yr. old, so that makes him tired, too!). Yes, small price to pay for otherwise feeling well and being alive! But--tonight he is trying something different (yikes!). Tonight he is taking Gleevec about an hour before bed, with cereal or oatmeal, or something rather " carby " . He is nervous, but started thinking that maybe he could try taking it at night and sleeping through the tiredness! I have seen past posts about this subject, and wanted to ask again...how many of you take Gleevec at night? Have some of you tried and it didnt work out? About 1-2 times per month my husband doesnt eat enough food with it and has gotten really nauseated, lasts about 30 minutes. I think that is what he is scared about. Any comments would be greatly appreciated... _________________________________________________________________ Like the way Microsoft Office Outlook works? You’ll love Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us & ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM\ _mini_outlook_0507 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 --- Adrienne <artist934@...> wrote: > Hi , > > My husband takes his Gleevec in the morning with > breakfast, sandwiching the pills with bites of food. > I have nothing to suggest about taking it at night, > since Jim doesn't do that, but I did want to suggest > having your husband include food with protein and > fat when he does take it. My husband is on 800mg, > so he takes 400 with breakfast and 400 with dinner. > If the meal is heavy on carbs and light on protein > and fat, he'll become nauseous. As long as he makes > sure to eat enough protein and fat, he's usually > feels fine. Everyone is a little different, so your > husband may have to experiment with foods, times of > day, etc. Hope this suggestion helps. Good luck, > > Adrienne > > Cervera <weez_555@...> wrote: > Hi all--- > My husband has been on Gleevec (400mg) since last > July when diagnosed, > suffered severe neutropenia for 1 month and was > hospitalized for 30 days. > Once we got through that, and his body got used to > Gleevec, things started > being on the up and up. He feels really good most > days, but after taking > Gleevec with his lunch, gets really tired. This > usually occurs around 2PM > every day and then he is really tired the rest of > the day. (He is currently > staying home with our 1-yr. old, so that makes him > tired, too!). Yes, small > price to pay for otherwise feeling well and being > alive! > > But--tonight he is trying something different > (yikes!). Tonight he is taking > Gleevec about an hour before bed, with cereal or > oatmeal, or something > rather " carby " . He is nervous, but started thinking > that maybe he could try > taking it at night and sleeping through the > tiredness! > > I have seen past posts about this subject, and > wanted to ask again...how > many of you take Gleevec at night? Have some of you > tried and it didnt work > out? About 1-2 times per month my husband doesnt eat > enough food with it and > has gotten really nauseated, lasts about 30 minutes. > I think that is what he > is scared about. > > Any comments would be greatly appreciated... > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Like the way Microsoft Office Outlook works? You’ll > love Windows Live > Hotmail. > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us & ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM\ _mini_outlook_0507 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 I too take it in the MIDDLE of dinner. Eat most of my carb foods on my dish first and then Gleevec followed by whatever is left on my plate. If I take it first or right after I feel sick. I also drink plenty of water to flush the toxicity of the medicine and I believe this has helped curb the side effects. I also take magnesium, calcium and potassium at lunch time and this too has helped tremendously with side effects. There are others on the lists that use the same regime. ez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 thanks for the suggestions...by the way..do you take it while taking your dinner?? or you take it in between..meaning eat the carbs first..rest then take gleevec then eat the remaining food...just want to try it so that i can recover form the feeling of boredness...especially after taking gleevec..i feel so depressed that i have to experience the side effects practically everyday of my life..aside from the overwhelming increase in my weight. in just 2 months..i gained more than 20 pounds!! i can no longer wear my clothes which makes me feel so bothered...i am so afraid to really get big...as in BIG!! i am starting to feel uncomfortable since people started to tease me with the way i look especially so when my face is so fluffy...thanks so much! ez <lmartinez@...> wrote: I too take it in the MIDDLE of dinner. Eat most of my carb foods on my dish first and then Gleevec followed by whatever is left on my plate. If I take it first or right after I feel sick. I also drink plenty of water to flush the toxicity of the medicine and I believe this has helped curb the side effects. I also take magnesium, calcium and potassium at lunch time and this too has helped tremendously with side effects. There are others on the lists that use the same regime. ez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Bill-- My husband was hospitalized for the neutropenia, and was in isolation room for 30 days. He had developed a minor eye infection which ended up literally swelling his entire face, and due to the infection and that he literally had NO WHITE CELLS registering at all, they did not want to risk him developing other infections. He was literally loaded on antibiotics for all 30 days. For 2 of those weeks he also was with a 103.5-104 degree fever. We had a doc at the time that is a well respected onc, but not very familiar with CML. During that 30-day stay, we switched docs to a doc who currently has 12 patients on Gleevec (Familiar with CML), and we also started seeing specialists at the City of Hope Cancer Center here in California. All in all, a hard 30 days, but that was at the beginning of his Gleevec. Other than fatigue after taking Gleevec, has been quite lucky with the side affects. He was diagnosed at 33 yrs. old and otherwise is very healthy. In the very beginning had some joint pain and some headaches that also went away...they come about 1-2 times a month, pressure behind the eye. When first diagnosed, I might add, it was because he had a blood clot in his brain, that's how we found out he had CML. He went through many brain surgeries, so the CML ended up taking back seat to the neurolical stuff we had to go through!!! He also thanks God every day for his life, for this medication and is such a positive person, I know the positivity has alot to do with his overall well-being. Good luck to you and to all, and thanks so much for sharing your insights! Wife of Cervera Diagnosed 7/06 400mg Gleevec /day 34 yrs. old >From: " willha46 " <creative@...> >Reply- > >Subject: [ ] Re: Gleevec Time of Day >Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 12:11:01 -0000 > >Hi , > >I have been on 400mg for a few weeks now. I always take it at 6:30pm- >7:00pm. I take it in the MIDDLE of my evening meal (eat half, take >the pills, eat the other half). >I have no side effects with it at night. The only side effects I have >are a bit of water retention under my right eye (weird there is none >on the left) But this goes down by mid day and Jaw Ache. But others >have also experienced the Jaw ache and according to my Hemo Dr. This >is common amongst me. I am tired when I wake up but can usually shake >it off a bit by 9am and then I get tired again by 6-7pm (I have a 2 >year old as well as a 9 year old and they wear me out right after I >come home also!) But so far I have been able to still work full time >taking my tablets this time of day. > >, just a question was your husband hospitalised for the >neutropenia or something else? Why did he stay in for a month? > >Hope this helps. > >Kind Regards and Best of Luck >Bill in the UK > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > Its funny to get this letter as I am getting back out of bed >becasue > > I am sick to my stomach. I suffer ALOT of gastritis with my Gleevec > > (800mg). I have been in the hospital for it numerous times as well > > as, I do home IV's once every couple weeks from the dehydration I >get > > from massive diarrhea and nausea. > > > > > > I have tried to take it during the day but the overwhelming >fatigue > > and bone pain caused me to switch to night in which I can sleep > > through the side effects. However, there are nights, like tonight, > > that I am already so nauseated before I even take the Gleevec, and > > have no appitate that I just end up taking a light snack and pay for > > it. Not always but occasionally. This is awful. I am SO >nauseated, > > the bile is in my throat and worse if I try ti clear it and I have >to > > sit up in bed with 4 pillows behind me. Its scary as I have always > > been someone afraid of choking so to have all this in my throat and > > stomach is eerie to me. > > > I think that what happens to me is not what alot of people go > > through (I hope), so your hubby should be fine. I would recommend > > taking it right after supper with his meal. I tend to put it off >and > > end up taking it too late most nights and then I pay for it. Not a > > smart thing to do!!! > > > > > > Your hubby should be able to sleep through most of the tiredness > > part. I wish him well. He may have to play around with it as far >as > > times go. Best of luck. > > > > > > 35 > > > CML 5\13\05 > > > Gleevec 800mg > > > Wife and mother of 3 (11,8,6) > > > > > > S. RN > > > > > > > > > [ ] Gleevec Time of Day > > > > > > > > > Hi all--- > > > My husband has been on Gleevec (400mg) since last July when >diagnosed, > > > suffered severe neutropenia for 1 month and was hospitalized for >30 > > days. > > > Once we got through that, and his body got used to Gleevec, >things > > started > > > being on the up and up. He feels really good most days, but after > > taking > > > Gleevec with his lunch, gets really tired. This usually occurs > > around 2PM > > > every day and then he is really tired the rest of the day. (He is > > currently > > > staying home with our 1-yr. old, so that makes him tired, too!). > > Yes, small > > > price to pay for otherwise feeling well and being alive! > > > > > > But--tonight he is trying something different (yikes!). Tonight he > > is taking > > > Gleevec about an hour before bed, with cereal or oatmeal, or >something > > > rather " carby " . He is nervous, but started thinking that maybe he > > could try > > > taking it at night and sleeping through the tiredness! > > > > > > I have seen past posts about this subject, and wanted to ask > > again...how > > > many of you take Gleevec at night? Have some of you tried and it > > didnt work > > > out? About 1-2 times per month my husband doesnt eat enough food > > with it and > > > has gotten really nauseated, lasts about 30 minutes. I think that >is > > what he > > > is scared about. > > > > > > Any comments would be greatly appreciated... > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Like the way Microsoft Office Outlook works? You値l love Windows >Live > > > Hotmail. > > > > > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en- >us & ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_outlook_0507 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Thanks to ALL of you responding about the Time of Day post. My husband did take it last night, with cereal, about 8:30pm. We go to bed at around 10PM. He was way more tired than he usually is, but he figured it was fine cuz we were going to bed, and all he was doing was taking it easy anyway, watching some TV. He normally always always always eats it with tons of food, yes, lots of protein and fat. Since his diagnosis, we dont eat dinner, really. That is because he eats so much food for lunch since he takes Gleevec (about 2PM each day), that we end up eating something small for dinner. doesnt like the idea of having to eat a huge meal late at night with Gleevec, so last night he just ate cereal...and knew it might be risky. All in all, he was very very tired, felt the normal " acidy " feeling in his stomach for about 30 minutes after taking it, but that was that. Was there something said before about NOT taking it with milk or something? I thought I remembered that..? As I stated, ever since diagnosis, he has become the stay at home parent and I am the working one. He feels awesome during the day up until he takes Gleevec, and then he gets knocked out. Because I currently work (3) 12-hr days, on those 3 days, his parents usually help out with our 1-yr. old son. We are trying to get to a point where they dont have to help us so much, (the main reason they do is to be around during 's daily fatigue). So, our thinking was that if he started taking Gleevec at night, he could escape the daily fatigue, and handle our son totally on his own. He is going to expiriment for a couple days now, but changing to the evenings...just to see what happens. Thank you SO MUCH for all of your insights--it is so good knowing the support that is available on this forum. Thanks! Cervera >From: melisa adan <lisa_adan@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Gleevec Time of Day >Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:49:52 +0100 (BST) > >thanks for the suggestions...by the way..do you take it while taking your >dinner?? or you take it in between..meaning eat the carbs first..rest then >take gleevec then eat the remaining food...just want to try it so that i >can recover form the feeling of boredness...especially after taking >gleevec..i feel so depressed that i have to experience the side effects >practically everyday of my life..aside from the overwhelming increase in my >weight. in just 2 months..i gained more than 20 pounds!! i can no longer >wear my clothes which makes me feel so bothered...i am so afraid to really >get big...as in BIG!! i am starting to feel uncomfortable since people >started to tease me with the way i look especially so when my face is so >fluffy...thanks so much! > > ez <lmartinez@...> wrote: I too take it in the >MIDDLE of dinner. Eat most of my carb foods on my dish >first and then Gleevec followed by whatever is left on my plate. > >If I take it first or right after I feel sick. > >I also drink plenty of water to flush the toxicity of the medicine and I >believe this has helped curb the side effects. > >I also take magnesium, calcium and potassium at lunch time and this too has >helped tremendously with side effects. > >There are others on the lists that use the same regime. > > ez > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Hi-- I also take my Gleevec at night with supper. For me I have to be sure to have some carbohydrates with it. I guess it's different for everyone.... chris in minn [ ] Gleevec Time of Day Hi all--- My husband has been on Gleevec (400mg) since last July when diagnosed, suffered severe neutropenia for 1 month and was hospitalized for 30 days. Once we got through that, and his body got used to Gleevec, things started being on the up and up. He feels really good most days, but after taking Gleevec with his lunch, gets really tired. This usually occurs around 2PM every day and then he is really tired the rest of the day. (He is currently staying home with our 1-yr. old, so that makes him tired, too!). Yes, small price to pay for otherwise feeling well and being alive! But--tonight he is trying something different (yikes!). Tonight he is taking Gleevec about an hour before bed, with cereal or oatmeal, or something rather " carby " . He is nervous, but started thinking that maybe he could try taking it at night and sleeping through the tiredness! I have seen past posts about this subject, and wanted to ask again...how many of you take Gleevec at night? Have some of you tried and it didnt work out? About 1-2 times per month my husband doesnt eat enough food with it and has gotten really nauseated, lasts about 30 minutes. I think that is what he is scared about. Any comments would be greatly appreciated... __________________________________________________________ Like the way Microsoft Office Outlook works? You値l love Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us & ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM\ _mini_outlook_0507<http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us & ocid=TXT\ _TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_outlook_0507> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Boy this has been a popular topic hasn't it I take my Gleevec about 2/3rds of the way through my supper meal. I find this cushions it a bit and reduces the nausea. I never had nausea at all until they changed it from capsules to pills at which point the nausea was becoming a real problem. It took me several months to get used to. Thankfully, it seems to be controlled now. During the time I spent adjusting though, I became psychologically conditioned and as a result, I now get nauseous at the site of certain foods such as pizza even if I haven't taken my Gleevec yet. Bill, do you happen to sleep mostly on your right side? I ask this because I find the edema is always worse in the eye on the side that I sleep on. , the issue with the milk isn't about the milk itself, it's about calcium. We shouldn't take Gleevec within two hours of taking calcium because the calcium could block or reduce the absorption of the Gleevec but milk shouldn't be an issue as there's only so much calcium in a glass of milk. Take care, Tracey dx Jan 2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 I take my Gleevec with the evening meal. It seems to work for me. I teach school full time all day, and feel pretty good. I think if your husband takes Gleevec at bed time, he's adding an extra meal. He might gain weight. I get pretty tired at night and sleep through most of the side effects. Why don't you have him try taking it at dinner? in NY 400 mg ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 , I was just thinking....I was very fatigued in the very beginning and pre-diagnosis of CML. My Oncologist did notice that my iron was very low and gave me some iron infusions. I am now on 2 iron tablets a day with the Gleevec. I notice a HUGE difference in my ability to stay up at night. I used to be exausted by 8pm every night and now will sometimes make it till midnight if we're out doing something or something good on the Letterman Show. LOL Anyway, I know that my case could be that I'm a 44 yr old woman who was low on Iron due to monthly periods, but you never know. Blessings to your family, Caron Re: [ ] Re: Gleevec Time of Day >Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:49:52 +0100 (BST) > >thanks for the suggestions...by the way..do you take it while taking your >dinner?? or you take it in between..meaning eat the carbs first..rest then >take gleevec then eat the remaining food...just want to try it so that i >can recover form the feeling of boredness...especially after taking >gleevec..i feel so depressed that i have to experience the side effects >practically everyday of my life..aside from the overwhelming increase in my >weight. in just 2 months..i gained more than 20 pounds!! i can no longer >wear my clothes which makes me feel so bothered...i am so afraid to really >get big...as in BIG!! i am starting to feel uncomfortable since people >started to tease me with the way i look especially so when my face is so >fluffy...thanks so much! > > ez <lmartinez@...> wrote: I too take it in the >MIDDLE of dinner. Eat most of my carb foods on my dish >first and then Gleevec followed by whatever is left on my plate. > >If I take it first or right after I feel sick. > >I also drink plenty of water to flush the toxicity of the medicine and I >believe this has helped curb the side effects. > >I also take magnesium, calcium and potassium at lunch time and this too has >helped tremendously with side effects. > >There are others on the lists that use the same regime. > > ez > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 I'll put my 2 cents worth,I,m retired take my 400 G at lunch a good lunch,then take a 2 hour nap if no body calls. I have found Nestea sweeten with lemons helps.Also when I get a little sick I take a mint. TN 400 G Dx 12 05 Yes we all respond different ----- Original Message ---->Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:49:> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 I do quite the opposite, funny how we have our personal tricks to deal with that. I take my 400mg with a good breakfast, and sometime get a bit sleepy (I mean more than usual) in the next hour or 2. Instead of napping (I have to work and need my brain awake) I go for some exercise, in general 20-30mn a walk about the campus. I have a working brain for the rest of the day. If I am going to do something that requires to be well awake, like a deep dive on a week-end, I take the pills after with my lunch, then I may nap as I don't work on week-ends. Marcos. On 5/17/07, Shipley <paulorkay@...> wrote: > > I'll put my 2 cents worth,I,m retired take my 400 G at lunch a good > lunch,then take a 2 hour nap if no body calls. I have found Nestea sweeten > with lemons helps.Also when I get a little sick I take a mint. TN 400 > G Dx 12 05 > Yes we all respond different > > ----- Original Message ---->Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:49:> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Yes. I eat most of my carbs first then I take Gleevec and finish my dinner. At first I gained weight too. But that was while I was on interferon and let me tell you why. being sick with Leukemia everyone including myself felt compelled to feed me! I did loose quite a bit of weight before diagnosis which was one of the reasons my Dr's nurse practitioner did the initial CBC. But I guess what I want to say to you is once your body gets used to Gleevec and you find ways to help with the side affects like some that I have mentioned, you will feel better mentally and you'll do whatever it takes to stay fit because you'll come to realize that our CML has become a chronic disease and life will continue to go on as normally as it should be . Right now give yourself a break. Your still dealing with the emotional part of the diagnosis but soon you will come to realize what has happened is God has started you on the new journey That was planned for you. You and I didn't plan it but he did and believe me somehow, someway, something good will come from it. My personal story is I'm glad it's me and not my children, grandchildren or any other child. Secondly, it has added so much more to my character that I 'm grateful in a special way. Have a great weekend! ez </message/5606;_ylc=X3oDMTJyM2wwM3M4BF9TAz k3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NzYyODAxBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTYyOARtc2dJZAM1NjA2BHNlYw NkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzExNzk0OTUyMjY-> Re: Gleevec Time of Day Posted by: " melisa adan " <mailto:lisa_adan@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Gleevec%20Time%20of%20Day> lisa_adan@... <lisa_adan> lisa_adan Thu May 17, 2007 8:51 am (PST) thanks for the suggestions...by the way..do you take it while taking your dinner?? or you take it in between..meaning eat the carbs first..rest then take gleevec then eat the remaining food...just want to try it so that i can recover form the feeling of boredness...especially after taking gleevec..i feel so depressed that i have to experience the side effects practically everyday of my life..aside from the overwhelming increase in my weight. in just 2 months..i gained more than 20 pounds!! i can no longer wear my clothes which makes me feel so bothered...i am so afraid to really get big...as in BIG!! i am starting to feel uncomfortable since people started to tease me with the way i look especially so when my face is so fluffy...thanks so much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 oh ok! thanks so much fo the encouragement..it helped me a lot in dealing with my emotions...i guess you are right, i still haven't gottten over my depressions...especially so that it is during this times in our life that we need all the moral support that we can get from our loved ones. unfortunately..a love of my life left me when he's supposed to be with me...i guess he doesn't love me that much..that is why he left me when he learned i was sick...which adds to my disappointments...but i am better now compared to 7 months ago...and that is one of the reason why i still want to look good despite of my CML....i guess God really has a better plan for me...i just have to trust Him more...again, thanks so much for your kind words..i need them...Godbless!! ez <lmartinez@...> wrote: Yes. I eat most of my carbs first then I take Gleevec and finish my dinner. At first I gained weight too. But that was while I was on interferon and let me tell you why. being sick with Leukemia everyone including myself felt compelled to feed me! I did loose quite a bit of weight before diagnosis which was one of the reasons my Dr's nurse practitioner did the initial CBC. But I guess what I want to say to you is once your body gets used to Gleevec and you find ways to help with the side affects like some that I have mentioned, you will feel better mentally and you'll do whatever it takes to stay fit because you'll come to realize that our CML has become a chronic disease and life will continue to go on as normally as it should be . Right now give yourself a break. Your still dealing with the emotional part of the diagnosis but soon you will come to realize what has happened is God has started you on the new journey That was planned for you. You and I didn't plan it but he did and believe me somehow, someway, something good will come from it. My personal story is I'm glad it's me and not my children, grandchildren or any other child. Secondly, it has added so much more to my character that I 'm grateful in a special way. Have a great weekend! ez </message/5606;_ylc=X3oDMTJyM2wwM3M4BF9TAz k3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NzYyODAxBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTYyOARtc2dJZAM1NjA2BHNlYw NkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzExNzk0OTUyMjY-> Re: Gleevec Time of Day Posted by: " melisa adan " <mailto:lisa_adan@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Gleevec%20Time%20of%20Day> lisa_adan@... <lisa_adan> lisa_adan Thu May 17, 2007 8:51 am (PST) thanks for the suggestions...by the way..do you take it while taking your dinner?? or you take it in between..meaning eat the carbs first..rest then take gleevec then eat the remaining food...just want to try it so that i can recover form the feeling of boredness...especially after taking gleevec..i feel so depressed that i have to experience the side effects practically everyday of my life..aside from the overwhelming increase in my weight. in just 2 months..i gained more than 20 pounds!! i can no longer wear my clothes which makes me feel so bothered...i am so afraid to really get big...as in BIG!! i am starting to feel uncomfortable since people started to tease me with the way i look especially so when my face is so fluffy...thanks so much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Hi Cevera, There have been times that I didn't eat dinner for some reason or another and I tried the cereal thing (it seemed like a god idea) but it wasn't. I had severe nausea from it. I think it was the milk? Maybe if he changes his daily routine he won't be so sick and he can eat something high in carbs at dinner. The only way he will know is if he tries it:-) Good luck! Thanks to ALL of you responding about the Time of Day post. My husband did take it last night, with cereal, about 8:30pm. We go to bed at around 10PM. He was way more tired than he usually is, but he figured it was fine cuz we were going to bed, and all he was doing was taking it easy anyway, watching some TV. He normally always always always eats it with tons of food, yes, lots of protein and fat. Since his diagnosis, we dont eat dinner, really. That is because he eats so much food for lunch since he takes Gleevec (about 2PM each day), that we end up eating something small for dinner. doesnt like the idea of having to eat a huge meal late at night with Gleevec, so last night he just ate cereal...and knew it might be risky. All in all, he was very very tired, felt the normal " acidy " feeling in his stomach for about 30 minutes after taking it, but that was that. Was there something said before about NOT taking it with milk or something? I thought I remembered that..? As I stated, ever since diagnosis, he has become the stay at home parent and I am the working one. He feels awesome during the day up until he takes Gleevec, and then he gets knocked out. Because I currently work (3) 12-hr days, on those 3 days, his parents usually help out with our 1-yr. old son. We are trying to get to a point where they dont have to help us so much, (the main reason they do is to be around during 's daily fatigue). So, our thinking was that if he started taking Gleevec at night, he could escape the daily fatigue, and handle our son totally on his own. He is going to expiriment for a couple days now, but changing to the evenings...just to see what happens. Thank you SO MUCH for all of your insights--it is so good knowing the support that is available on this forum. Thanks! Cervera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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