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I am curious about Ibupropen and BMS. My ALT test was a little high and I was

curiuos if the combination of these two might be why.

Tracey <traceyincanada@...> wrote: Hi Everyone,

Chris's recent experience has caused me to go back and check a few

drugs to see how they metabolize and I have found some interesting

things.

For anyone who wants to read the technical information regarding

Gleevec, you can find a good synopsis here:

http://www.drugs.com/pro/gleevec.html

Where it lists the drugs that may have their plasma levels altered by

Gleevec you'll see that Acetaminophen (Tylenol) is specifically

listed. We've known for years that we weren't supposed to take

Tylenol because it can " compete with Gleevec for metabolization " but

this was the first time I read that when taken together, the plasma

level for Tylenol can actually increase. So in other words, a 500mg

pill of Tylenol, could potentially be double or triple that in your

system. Having higher levels of Acetaminophen in your blood will

obviously make the risk of toxicity greater which is something we

want to avoid if at all possible.

Another interesting site I found:

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/444804_5

Describes the CYP3A4 isoenzyme (the one that Gleevec uses for

metabolization). It says that about 50% of drugs use this isoenzyme

including exogenous corticosteroids. I often use Hydrocortisone for

eczema but I never thought that it could interact with Gleevec. I'm

not sure how much cream would need to be used in order to cause a

significant interaction, but it's something to think about I guess.

Also of note, I found that plasma levels of Diphenhydramine

Hydrochloride (AKA Benadryl), can be increased when taken with

Gleevec because the Benadryl uses the P450 2D6 isoenzyme to

metabolize which Gleevec can inhibit.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/PEOPLE/injury/research/job185drugs/diphenhydr

amine.htm

The theraputic range for Benadryl is fairly wide so I'm not sure how

significant this finding is but it's made me realize that when it

comes to taking a dose of Benadryl, size can matter and smaller is

better :)

I guess the moral of my story is that it's very important to check

out each drug we take to know exactly how or if it will interact with

Gleevec.

Tracey

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Hi ,

According to http://www.drugs.com/pro/ibuprofen.html it is possible

that the Ibuprofen could cause an elevation in ALT. If you scroll

down to where it talks about hepatic events, you'll see that 1% of

patients in clinical trials using NSAID's (which Ibuprofen is one of)

did experience an elevation in ALT and/or AST. So although rare, it

is possible.

Also, if you look at http://www.drugs.com/ppa/dasatinib.html , you'll

see that the information for Sprycel mentions that elevated

transaminases have been noted in patients so it could be from the

Sprycel as well.

A slight elevation usually isn't anything to worry about. It's when

it gets to be double, triple and quadruple the upper limit of normal

that you really need to pay attention.

Take care,

Tracey

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high and I was curiuos if the combination of these two might be why.

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Thank you so much for the information. It's not there yet, but my counts are

always so normal, I was a little concerned. I take about 800 mg at night before

bed if I have physically pressed myself, if I don't the next day could be very

rough, i.e. muscle and joint pain.

I also wondered if pain in the ankles are common fr anyone? Sometimes my feet

and ankles get so sore.

Tracey <traceyincanada@...> wrote:

Hi ,

According to http://www.drugs.com/pro/ibuprofen.html it is possible

that the Ibuprofen could cause an elevation in ALT. If you scroll

down to where it talks about hepatic events, you'll see that 1% of

patients in clinical trials using NSAID's (which Ibuprofen is one of)

did experience an elevation in ALT and/or AST. So although rare, it

is possible.

Also, if you look at http://www.drugs.com/ppa/dasatinib.html , you'll

see that the information for Sprycel mentions that elevated

transaminases have been noted in patients so it could be from the

Sprycel as well.

A slight elevation usually isn't anything to worry about. It's when

it gets to be double, triple and quadruple the upper limit of normal

that you really need to pay attention.

Take care,

Tracey

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> I am curious about Ibupropen and BMS. My ALT test was a little

high and I was curiuos if the combination of these two might be why.

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I am in the blast stage and pain and ankle joint is

always pain for me.

As for today my count is 40.0% which means it is too

low.I am still on spycell and i do not know what is

reducing the count so low.

Any help please form anyone

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I don't understand. My last blood counts were normal, accept my ALT was high

but minimally so (45), and I too am on Sprycell but I have been experiencing

this pain for the last month. How long have you been in blast and when you say

your count was low by what are you referring to?

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I am in the blast stage and pain and ankle joint is

always pain for me.

As for today my count is 40.0% which means it is too

low.I am still on spycell and i do not know what is

reducing the count so low.

Any help please form anyone

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Hi ,

Pain of any kind could be for any reason. It doesn't necessarily

mean that Sprycel is at the root of it, or even CML for that matter.

My ankle recently started hurting me as well, but I figured out that

it was because of the way I was sitting on it in the garden and not

anything ominous. After I stopped sitting on it like that, the pain

went away.

Don't worry about your ALT , 45 is barely even elevated. If

there was anything going on with your liver, it would not only be

much much higher but your ALP, bilirubin and AST would also be sky

high.

Take care,

Tracey

> I am in the blast stage and pain and ankle joint is

> always pain for me.

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> As for today my count is 40.0% which means it is too

> low.I am still on spycell and i do not know what is

> reducing the count so low.

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> Any help please form anyone

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