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They list many side effects in the pharmacology report, although not

as vast in number as Gleevec. However, I can only tell you the ones

that I experienced and what I did to remedy them.

You should be able to get more complete information here:

_http://www.us.tasigna.com/index.jsp_ (http://www.us.tasigna.com/index.jsp)

I am not claiming to be an authority on Tasigna and there are many

others who have been on this drug longer than two months, like I

have. I was fortunate to be able to get information from them and

likewise I am trying to pass on what I have learned.

Of course it is best if you discuss these matters with your medical

support team and oncologist.

With warm regards,

Matt

ville, FL

DX January 2005

Gleevec March 2005

Tasigna November 2008

In a message dated 1/21/2008 2:43:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

MoonQn1@... writes:

I have a question.? I have been offline for months and am trying to catch up

on the latest with CML treatment. Tomorrow I go in to UMass for my onc.

appt. and would appreciate some info on Tasigna.

I have been on Gleevec for 8 years, I have had significant weight gain,

vision loss, fatigue, bone/joint pain, elevated liver enzymes, pancreatic

problems, to name some side effects.??

You mention Tasigna does cause elevated liver enzymes, but are there any

other significant side effects??? As I said, I was offline (no computer) for

months and am just now getting back and wanted some quick info for tomorrow.

Thanks in advance, Lynne A.

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From: _mtmaynor@..._ (mailto:mtmaynor@...)

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Sent: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 1:03 pm

Subject: Re: [ ] Tasigna

Yes, I assume that the blackbox warning you are speaking of was

the " may cause sudden death " item. When I asked my oncologist

about it, he stated that the worry is that you develop QT Prolongation,

which can lead to ventricular arrhythmias, which as I understand it

can cause cardiac arrest and then that sudden death thing. This

can be an issue with a number of things and the issue of electrolytes

is one of those items that can cause QT Prolongation.

Like Gleevec with the Liver issues, Tasigna does cause an increase

in Lipase or Pancreatic Enzymes. I have not found a way around

this yet, but it appears from my tests it is a slight elevation and not

of concern.

For the first 28 days on the medication, you do have to have an EKG,

which my GP was glad to perform. All were normal and it is a very

painless and quick test.

The issue with taking on an empty stomach is related to absorption

rates. It seems that food elevates the absorption of Tasigna and if

you take with a full stomach, the medication " spikes " absorption

and can cause problems.

Overall, I have found it much better for my QOL.

In a message dated 1/21/2008 12:47:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

_utfin93@..._ (mailto:utfin93@...) writes:

Thanks Matt! Great post. I was consideing Tasigna due to same GI sides of G

leevec also. Was a little taken aback by the black box warning. Did your doc

discuss this with you? Also, any problems getting on your insurance

formulary?

Tx

Rick

__mtmaynoraol (DOT) _mt_ (mailto:_mtmaynor@...) _ (mailto:_mtmaynor@..._

(mailto:mtmaynor@...) ) wrote:

I had great difficulty with the GI side effects of Gleevec and begin

a regimen of Tasigna last November. I have found that most of the

GI issues that I had with Gleevec have promptly disappeared.

Tasigna is taken twice a day on an empty stomach, at least two

hours after a meal or one hour. At the beginning this is kind of

hard to schedule, but I take my doses at the time I get up and

at approximately 5:00 in the afternoon. The standard dose

is 400 mg twice a day, however some are on 200 mg twice

a day. I have also heard of people taking 400 mg once a day.

I did have one scare and ended up in the ER with high pancreatic

enzymes and low electrolytes. I know drink at least two 8 oz.

glasses of Gatorade each day and supplement with electrolyte

tablets that I obtain from Hammer Gel nutrition.

For those of you with significant GI issues with Gleevec, I would

encourage you to consider Tasigna as I have done well on it

so far.

With warm regards,

Matt

ville, FL

DX January 2005

Gleevec March 2005

Tasigna November 2008

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I have a question.? I have been offline for months and am trying to catch up on

the latest with CML treatment. Tomorrow I go in to UMass for my onc. appt. and

would appreciate some info on Tasigna.

I have been on Gleevec for 8 years, I have had significant weight gain, vision

loss, fatigue, bone/joint pain, elevated liver enzymes, pancreatic problems, to

name some side effects.??

You mention Tasigna does cause elevated liver enzymes, but are there any other

significant side effects??? As I said, I was offline (no computer) for months

and am just now getting back and wanted some quick info for tomorrow. Thanks in

advance, Lynne A.

Re: [ ] Tasigna

Yes, I assume that the blackbox warning you are speaking of was

the " may cause sudden death " item. When I asked my oncologist

about it, he stated that the worry is that you develop QT Prolongation,

which can lead to ventricular arrhythmias, which as I understand it

can cause cardiac arrest and then that sudden death thing. This

can be an issue with a number of things and the issue of electrolytes

is one of those items that can cause QT Prolongation.

Like Gleevec with the Liver issues, Tasigna does cause an increase

in Lipase or Pancreatic Enzymes. I have not found a way around

this yet, but it appears from my tests it is a slight elevation and not

of concern.

For the first 28 days on the medication, you do have to have an EKG,

which my GP was glad to perform. All were normal and it is a very

painless and quick test.

The issue with taking on an empty stomach is related to absorption

rates. It seems that food elevates the absorption of Tasigna and if

you take with a full stomach, the medication " spikes " absorption

and can cause problems.

Overall, I have found it much better for my QOL.

In a message dated 1/21/2008 12:47:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

utfin93@... writes:

Thanks Matt! Great post. I was consideing Tasigna due to same GI sides of G

leevec also. Was a little taken aback by the black box warning. Did your doc

discuss this with you? Also, any problems getting on your insurance formulary?

Tx

Rick

_mtmaynor@..._ (mailto:mtmaynor@...) wrote:

I had great difficulty with the GI side effects of Gleevec and begin

a regimen of Tasigna last November. I have found that most of the

GI issues that I had with Gleevec have promptly disappeared.

Tasigna is taken twice a day on an empty stomach, at least two

hours after a meal or one hour. At the beginning this is kind of

hard to schedule, but I take my doses at the time I get up and

at approximately 5:00 in the afternoon. The standard dose

is 400 mg twice a day, however some are on 200 mg twice

a day. I have also heard of people taking 400 mg once a day.

I did have one scare and ended up in the ER with high pancreatic

enzymes and low electrolytes. I know drink at least two 8 oz.

glasses of Gatorade each day and supplement with electrolyte

tablets that I obtain from Hammer Gel nutrition.

For those of you with significant GI issues with Gleevec, I would

encourage you to consider Tasigna as I have done well on it

so far.

With warm regards,

Matt

ville, FL

DX January 2005

Gleevec March 2005

Tasigna November 2008

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_http://body.http://body.<WBRhttp://body.<WBRhttp://body.<WBRhttp://bo_

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