RE : RE: Gleevec and chelation therapy

[Guest guest]

Hi Rita,

I am glad that you achieved PCRU with Sprycell. I hope that you

have less side effect than with Gleevec.

I hope to see you in Montreal, may be at the next CML meeting at

the Royal Hospital.

Take care,

Your friend of Montreal,

Gilles

P.S. La vie est belle! Il faut en profiter au maximum!

Rita Levig <levig@...> a écrit :

Good morning, Gilles

The Royal Hospital in Montreal is part of the North American wide

project to standardize PCR testing. As such the Royal Vic PCR testing meets

the requirements of certification along with some other key centers in

Canada.

Chelation therapy is a procedure that removes heavy metals from your system.

I do not personally know anyone that has undergone this while on Gleevec

therapy.

Gilles, you and I share the same Doctor who is considered to be among the

top CML experts in Canada. No doubt you feel as reassured about this as I

do.

Aussi, vous pouvez m’écrire personnellement ou m’appelez. J’ai toujours mon

PCRU sur 20 de Sprycell 2 fois par jour.

Hope to see you soon,

Love,

Rita

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Zavie

miller

Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 11:30 AM

Cc: Gilles Cousineau

Subject: RE: [ ] Gleevec and chelation therapy

Hi Giles,

Before I respond to some of your questions, let me welcome you to the Zero

Club.

O!!! YIPPEEE!!!

Number 1129 in the Zero Club

Zavie

Giles, I don't think your PCR is unstable. My experience with PCR testing at

the Royal Vic is that their PCR testing is unstable. You might want to have

the testing done at a different lab. When the Vic was saying I was at PCRU,

all the other labs were saying that I was at a 3 log reduction.

I would investigate more before starting the Chalation therapy.

Zavie

Zavie (age 69)

67 Shoreham Avenue

Ottawa, Canada, K2G 3X3

dxd AUG/99

INF OCT/99 to FEB/00, CHF

No meds FEB/00 to JAN/01

Gleevec since MAR/27/01 (400 mg)

CCR SEP/01. #102 in Zero Club

2.8 log reduction Sep/05

3.0 log reduction Jan/06

2.9 log reduction Feb/07

3.2 log reduction Jun/07

3.6 log reduction Sep/07

e-mail: zmillersympatico (DOT) <mailto:zmiller%40sympatico.ca> ca

Tel: 613-726-1117

Fax: 309-296-0807

Cell: 613-202-0204

ID: zaviem

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[mailto:groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com] On Behalf Of

Gilles

Cousineau

Sent: November 10, 2007 10:29 PM

groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com

Subject: Re: [ ] Gleevec and chelation therapy

Hi Zavie,

I am just thinking about doing it. I discuss with my CML

doctor. He knows this therapy but he doesn't recommand it. I am

interested in this therapy because I have hypertension, atrial

fibrillation and kidney insufficiency.

Now I take Gleevec (400mg), Coumadin + Monocor + Rythmol-

propefanone (for the heart). My creatinine rate is around 130 for a

maximum normal range of 110.

My question is that: Is it possible that the chelation

therapy can damage more the kidney? Is it possible that the the

chelation therapy can interact with Gleevec (400mg)?

Actually, my PCR results are instable. The tests were

executed at the Royal Victotia hospital in Montreal(Canada).

August 2006 -------- -log 2,3

November 2006 ------- PCRU

December 2006 ------ -log 4,5

April 2007 --------- -log 3,0

May 2007 ----------- -log 3,2

July 2007---------- -log 4,9

October 2007 ------ -log 3,0

I am worry about my PCR results. I think that the reason

is because I take too much medication. I took the same quantity od

medication and I didn't miss a pill. The chelation therapy may reduce

the quantity of medication for the heart. I didn't know that there is

a intravenous method.

I want to know if there is a person taking Gleevec with

the Chelation therapy.

Regards,

Gilles Cousineau

Montreal (Canada)

dxd June 2005

>

> Hi Gilles,

>

> Have you been doing Chelation therapy or are you thinking about

doing it?

>

> I would check with your CML doctor and see what he says. From what

I have

> read, the intravenous method is the way to go. The advantage is

that it

> requires a doctor to administer it.

>

> Zavie

>

> Zavie (age 69)

> 67 Shoreham Avenue

> Ottawa, Canada, K2G 3X3

> dxd AUG/99

> INF OCT/99 to FEB/00, CHF

> No meds FEB/00 to JAN/01

> Gleevec since MAR/27/01 (400 mg)

> CCR SEP/01. #102 in Zero Club

> 2.8 log reduction Sep/05

> 3.0 log reduction Jan/06

> 2.9 log reduction Feb/07

> 3.2 log reduction Jun/07

> 3.6 log reduction Sep/07

> e-mail: zmiller@...

> Tel: 613-726-1117

> Fax: 309-296-0807

> Cell: 613-202-0204

> ID: zaviem

>

> _____

>

> From: groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com

[mailto:groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com] On Behalf

Of Gilles

> Cousineau

> Sent: November 10, 2007 12:22 AM

> groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com

> Subject: [ ] Gleevec and chelation therapy

>

> Hi everyone

>

> Do you know if chelation therapy may interact with Gleevec?

> ( http://www.chelatio <http://www.chelatio

<http://www.chelatio <http://www.chelationbc.com/facts.html>

nbc.com/facts.html> nbc.com/facts.html>

> nbc.com/facts.html )

>

> __________________________________________________________

> " Chelation therapy is far safer and much less expensive than

surgical

> treatment of atherosclerosis. Chelation therapy might eliminate the

> need for bypass surgery and is equally valid when used as a

> preventative treatment " .

> http://www.chelatio <http://www.chelatio

<http://www.chelatio <http://www.chelationbc.com/chelation.html>

nbc.com/chelation.html> nbc.com/chelation.html>

> nbc.com/chelation.html

> _______________________________________________

>

> Regards,

>

> Gilles

> Montreal

> diag - june 2005

>

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