Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 hi Barbara it is interesting that my mother was also diagnosed with cll 1 year ago. i was diagnosed with cml 8 years ago best regards giora [ ] Barb as the Tasigna Poster Child Hello All Been a while since I have been here. Lots has happened too. Let me bring you all up to date. I was diagnosed 5/5/02 after losing my mom to CLL in Nov. of 01. I reached PCRU 5 years ago TODAY and have remained there since. I took 400 mg gleevec and had initial side effects that were hard but they subsided. Then about two years ago, they began to gear up and I had so man of them, wood legs, joint pain and crippling cramps, that I thought I was going to quit work. I took a gleevec break for 10 weeks, ( in consult with Drucker and my oncologist). I went back on at 300 mg a day and the side effects returned. I finally switched drugs to Tasigna on Dec. 26 of last year. I began at 800 mg and for two weeks, begged for gleevec again. I had pain, complete body rash, and thought I was going to go crazy. Then we broke for 5 days. In that short time, all side effects went away. I began again on Jan. 28 at 400 mg. The side effects there but mild. I seem to be doing well. The PCRU continues - thanks be to my God. I have more energy than ever before. My rash is gone. I have good SKIN - - know how Gleevec makes it tear easily and you burn so bad? I am working on a tan now!! I do have some water retention and some joint pain but NOTHING like before. I am a pretty happy camper on this stuff. So the oncologist says go it this way until August and see if I do well, then maybe, just maybe we will up it to 800 again. I think I will try to talk him out of it though. I am well, happy and about to take a group of 18 from the school I teach at to Tijuana Mexico for mission work next week on spring break. It should be fun. Hope all are well and I give you all my best. Barb in AZ PS: HI SUSAN!! GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Giora Hi and good to see your post. I will tell you, I have my own theory about this. I was raised in Iowa and my home town is full of cancers of all kinds. It was a farming community that used pesticides and herbicides in the local crops, and the rain runoff always went into the same river we got our water from. Union Carbide had a plant right on the river as well. All the carbon and all the farming chemicals are full of benzene. I have no doubt that she and I were affected by that in some small ( or big) way. There is testing going on in the Missouri river at the four corners Missouri, Nebraska, Iowa and Kansas to test the water. I will be interested to hear about the results. I am sorry to hear about your mom. What is her treatment protocol? Be well, Barb > > hi Barbara > it is interesting that my mother was also diagnosed with cll 1 year ago. i was diagnosed with cml 8 years ago > best regards > giora > [ ] Barb as the Tasigna Poster Child > > > > Hello All > > Been a while since I have been here. Lots has happened too. Let me bring > you all up to date. > > I was diagnosed 5/5/02 after losing my mom to CLL in Nov. of 01. I > reached PCRU 5 years ago TODAY and have remained there since. I took 400 > mg gleevec and had initial side effects that were hard but they > subsided. Then about two years ago, they began to gear up and I had so > man of them, wood legs, joint pain and crippling cramps, that I thought > I was going to quit work. I took a gleevec break for 10 weeks, ( in > consult with Drucker and my oncologist). I went back on at 300 mg a day > and the side effects returned. I finally switched drugs to Tasigna on > Dec. 26 of last year. I began at 800 mg and for two weeks, begged for > gleevec again. I had pain, complete body rash, and thought I was going > to go crazy. Then we broke for 5 days. In that short time, all side > effects went away. I began again on Jan. 28 at 400 mg. The side effects > there but mild. I seem to be doing well. The PCRU continues - thanks be > to my God. I have more energy than ever before. My rash is gone. I have > good SKIN - - know how Gleevec makes it tear easily and you burn so bad? > I am working on a tan now!! I do have some water retention and some > joint pain but NOTHING like before. I am a pretty happy camper on this > stuff. So the oncologist says go it this way until August and see if I > do well, then maybe, just maybe we will up it to 800 again. I think I > will try to talk him out of it though. > > I am well, happy and about to take a group of 18 from the school I teach > at to Tijuana Mexico for mission work next week on spring break. It > should be fun. > > Hope all are well and I give you all my best. > > Barb in AZ > > PS: HI SUSAN!! GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Barb very interesting,. I lived on the Great South Bay on Long Island, where they sprayed every year for mosquitos. My niece used to hitch a ride on her bike, at the back of the truck and not knowing it well may have been the cause of her death years later, along with many other people in the area. We never closed the windows, or stayed inside, and this would be back in the 50's, have no idea what they used then to kill mosquitos, but I am sure they no longer use it. What we don't know will kill us...Bobby Barb Stanley <barbarastanley@...> wrote: Giora Hi and good to see your post. I will tell you, I have my own theory about this. I was raised in Iowa and my home town is full of cancers of all kinds. It was a farming community that used pesticides and herbicides in the local crops, and the rain runoff always went into the same river we got our water from. Union Carbide had a plant right on the river as well. All the carbon and all the farming chemicals are full of benzene. I have no doubt that she and I were affected by that in some small ( or big) way. There is testing going on in the Missouri river at the four corners Missouri, Nebraska, Iowa and Kansas to test the water. I will be interested to hear about the results. I am sorry to hear about your mom. What is her treatment protocol? Be well, Barb > > hi Barbara > it is interesting that my mother was also diagnosed with cll 1 year ago. i was diagnosed with cml 8 years ago > best regards > giora > [ ] Barb as the Tasigna Poster Child > > > > Hello All > > Been a while since I have been here. Lots has happened too. Let me bring > you all up to date. > > I was diagnosed 5/5/02 after losing my mom to CLL in Nov. of 01. I > reached PCRU 5 years ago TODAY and have remained there since. I took 400 > mg gleevec and had initial side effects that were hard but they > subsided. Then about two years ago, they began to gear up and I had so > man of them, wood legs, joint pain and crippling cramps, that I thought > I was going to quit work. I took a gleevec break for 10 weeks, ( in > consult with Drucker and my oncologist). I went back on at 300 mg a day > and the side effects returned. I finally switched drugs to Tasigna on > Dec. 26 of last year. I began at 800 mg and for two weeks, begged for > gleevec again. I had pain, complete body rash, and thought I was going > to go crazy. Then we broke for 5 days. In that short time, all side > effects went away. I began again on Jan. 28 at 400 mg. The side effects > there but mild. I seem to be doing well. The PCRU continues - thanks be > to my God. I have more energy than ever before. My rash is gone. I have > good SKIN - - know how Gleevec makes it tear easily and you burn so bad? > I am working on a tan now!! I do have some water retention and some > joint pain but NOTHING like before. I am a pretty happy camper on this > stuff. So the oncologist says go it this way until August and see if I > do well, then maybe, just maybe we will up it to 800 again. I think I > will try to talk him out of it though. > > I am well, happy and about to take a group of 18 from the school I teach > at to Tijuana Mexico for mission work next week on spring break. It > should be fun. > > Hope all are well and I give you all my best. > > Barb in AZ > > PS: HI SUSAN!! GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 hi Barb my mother is 78 years old and generaly in very good health. she doesnt recieve any treatment for her cll. only follow ups every 3 months. actually she is traveling now in cambodia and i am happy that she can keep her active life. shalom giora [ ] Barb as the Tasigna Poster Child > > > > Hello All > > Been a while since I have been here. Lots has happened too. Let me bring > you all up to date. > > I was diagnosed 5/5/02 after losing my mom to CLL in Nov. of 01. I > reached PCRU 5 years ago TODAY and have remained there since. I took 400 > mg gleevec and had initial side effects that were hard but they > subsided. Then about two years ago, they began to gear up and I had so > man of them, wood legs, joint pain and crippling cramps, that I thought > I was going to quit work. I took a gleevec break for 10 weeks, ( in > consult with Drucker and my oncologist). I went back on at 300 mg a day > and the side effects returned. I finally switched drugs to Tasigna on > Dec. 26 of last year. I began at 800 mg and for two weeks, begged for > gleevec again. I had pain, complete body rash, and thought I was going > to go crazy. Then we broke for 5 days. In that short time, all side > effects went away. I began again on Jan. 28 at 400 mg. The side effects > there but mild. I seem to be doing well. The PCRU continues - thanks be > to my God. I have more energy than ever before. My rash is gone. I have > good SKIN - - know how Gleevec makes it tear easily and you burn so bad? > I am working on a tan now!! I do have some water retention and some > joint pain but NOTHING like before. I am a pretty happy camper on this > stuff. So the oncologist says go it this way until August and see if I > do well, then maybe, just maybe we will up it to 800 again. I think I > will try to talk him out of it though. > > I am well, happy and about to take a group of 18 from the school I teach > at to Tijuana Mexico for mission work next week on spring break. It > should be fun. > > Hope all are well and I give you all my best. > > Barb in AZ > > PS: HI SUSAN!! GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 : I too go to Moffit and I too will be there on Thursday of this week for my annual BMB. I have not been thrilled with their labs, but overall I am thrilled with my oncologist and the amount of time he spends with me and the information he gives and receives. He is always eager to share the latest information and to listen to what I have to say. I too started Tasigna last November and after the initial adjustment think it is better for me than Gleevec was for the three years I was on it. I hope it goes well for you. Matt ville, FL **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030\ 000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 While you were off Gleevec for 10 weeks, did CML rear it's ugly head? Did white count get elevated? I have been off Gleevec since Jan 31 and so far, no elevated white count. I was needing blood transfusions every month while on Gleevec and I have not had a transfusion since Jan 10. Moffitt Cancer Center is waiting for CML to come back and then will start me on something else so I am wondering how long it took you to get symptoms back. Thanks Barb Stanley <barbarastanley@...> wrote: Hello All Been a while since I have been here. Lots has happened too. Let me bring you all up to date. I was diagnosed 5/5/02 after losing my mom to CLL in Nov. of 01. I reached PCRU 5 years ago TODAY and have remained there since. I took 400 mg gleevec and had initial side effects that were hard but they subsided. Then about two years ago, they began to gear up and I had so man of them, wood legs, joint pain and crippling cramps, that I thought I was going to quit work. I took a gleevec break for 10 weeks, ( in consult with Drucker and my oncologist). I went back on at 300 mg a day and the side effects returned. I finally switched drugs to Tasigna on Dec. 26 of last year. I began at 800 mg and for two weeks, begged for gleevec again. I had pain, complete body rash, and thought I was going to go crazy. Then we broke for 5 days. In that short time, all side effects went away. I began again on Jan. 28 at 400 mg. The side effects there but mild. I seem to be doing well. The PCRU continues - thanks be to my God. I have more energy than ever before. My rash is gone. I have good SKIN - - know how Gleevec makes it tear easily and you burn so bad? I am working on a tan now!! I do have some water retention and some joint pain but NOTHING like before. I am a pretty happy camper on this stuff. So the oncologist says go it this way until August and see if I do well, then maybe, just maybe we will up it to 800 again. I think I will try to talk him out of it though. I am well, happy and about to take a group of 18 from the school I teach at to Tijuana Mexico for mission work next week on spring break. It should be fun. Hope all are well and I give you all my best. Barb in AZ PS: HI SUSAN!! GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU! --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Hi , Are you being monitored with PCR's or BMB's while you're off Gleevec? The problem with relying on just your white count is that by the time your white count starts to rise, your CML could have been active for several months already. Ideally, you want to have very regular PCR's to track the molecular status of your disease before it becomes aggressive. I'm not sure why they're waiting until it becomes active again, that kind of defeats the purpose of keeping it under control to avoid relapse. By letting it become active again, you risk developing mutations that could be drug resistant so really, you want it to be well controlled. Take care, Tracey > > Hello All > > Been a while since I have been here. Lots has happened too. Let me bring > you all up to date. > > I was diagnosed 5/5/02 after losing my mom to CLL in Nov. of 01. I > reached PCRU 5 years ago TODAY and have remained there since. I took 400 > mg gleevec and had initial side effects that were hard but they > subsided. Then about two years ago, they began to gear up and I had so > man of them, wood legs, joint pain and crippling cramps, that I thought > I was going to quit work. I took a gleevec break for 10 weeks, ( in > consult with Drucker and my oncologist). I went back on at 300 mg a day > and the side effects returned. I finally switched drugs to Tasigna on > Dec. 26 of last year. I began at 800 mg and for two weeks, begged for > gleevec again. I had pain, complete body rash, and thought I was going > to go crazy. Then we broke for 5 days. In that short time, all side > effects went away. I began again on Jan. 28 at 400 mg. The side effects > there but mild. I seem to be doing well. The PCRU continues - thanks be > to my God. I have more energy than ever before. My rash is gone. I have > good SKIN - - know how Gleevec makes it tear easily and you burn so bad? > I am working on a tan now!! I do have some water retention and some > joint pain but NOTHING like before. I am a pretty happy camper on this > stuff. So the oncologist says go it this way until August and see if I > do well, then maybe, just maybe we will up it to 800 again. I think I > will try to talk him out of it though. > > I am well, happy and about to take a group of 18 from the school I teach > at to Tijuana Mexico for mission work next week on spring break. It > should be fun. > > Hope all are well and I give you all my best. > > Barb in AZ > > PS: HI SUSAN!! GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU! > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Thank you so much for your reply. I am going back to Moffitt Thursday and I will ask what kind of test they have been doing. I think it's FISH and Q-PCR. I will also ask why they are waiting. Thanks again Tracey Tracey <traceyincanada@...> wrote: Hi , Are you being monitored with PCR's or BMB's while you're off Gleevec? The problem with relying on just your white count is that by the time your white count starts to rise, your CML could have been active for several months already. Ideally, you want to have very regular PCR's to track the molecular status of your disease before it becomes aggressive. I'm not sure why they're waiting until it becomes active again, that kind of defeats the purpose of keeping it under control to avoid relapse. By letting it become active again, you risk developing mutations that could be drug resistant so really, you want it to be well controlled. Take care, Tracey > > Hello All > > Been a while since I have been here. Lots has happened too. Let me bring > you all up to date. > > I was diagnosed 5/5/02 after losing my mom to CLL in Nov. of 01. I > reached PCRU 5 years ago TODAY and have remained there since. I took 400 > mg gleevec and had initial side effects that were hard but they > subsided. Then about two years ago, they began to gear up and I had so > man of them, wood legs, joint pain and crippling cramps, that I thought > I was going to quit work. I took a gleevec break for 10 weeks, ( in > consult with Drucker and my oncologist). I went back on at 300 mg a day > and the side effects returned. I finally switched drugs to Tasigna on > Dec. 26 of last year. I began at 800 mg and for two weeks, begged for > gleevec again. I had pain, complete body rash, and thought I was going > to go crazy. Then we broke for 5 days. In that short time, all side > effects went away. I began again on Jan. 28 at 400 mg. The side effects > there but mild. I seem to be doing well. The PCRU continues - thanks be > to my God. I have more energy than ever before. My rash is gone. I have > good SKIN - - know how Gleevec makes it tear easily and you burn so bad? > I am working on a tan now!! I do have some water retention and some > joint pain but NOTHING like before. I am a pretty happy camper on this > stuff. So the oncologist says go it this way until August and see if I > do well, then maybe, just maybe we will up it to 800 again. I think I > will try to talk him out of it though. > > I am well, happy and about to take a group of 18 from the school I teach > at to Tijuana Mexico for mission work next week on spring break. It > should be fun. > > Hope all are well and I give you all my best. > > Barb in AZ > > PS: HI SUSAN!! GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU! > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 ,, I would think that the Q pcr would be the only test you would need to do. It is kind of a guide line. I have had at least 10-14 BMB's and I do not think I will ever have another unless things really go bad. But the PCR is the best test.it tests more cells then the others. The FISH has to be done by a Bone Marrow Biopsy..I think.. If anyone knows different let me know. Sharon I was off Sprycel for about a month and my PCR went from 0.00 to 0.011. so now I am on Tasigna and hope it goes back down. Sharon _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Barb as the Tasigna Poster Child Thank you so much for your reply. I am going back to Moffitt Thursday and I will ask what kind of test they have been doing. I think it's FISH and Q-PCR. I will also ask why they are waiting. Thanks again Tracey Tracey <traceyincanada@ <mailto:traceyincanada%40> > wrote: Hi , Are you being monitored with PCR's or BMB's while you're off Gleevec? The problem with relying on just your white count is that by the time your white count starts to rise, your CML could have been active for several months already. Ideally, you want to have very regular PCR's to track the molecular status of your disease before it becomes aggressive. I'm not sure why they're waiting until it becomes active again, that kind of defeats the purpose of keeping it under control to avoid relapse. By letting it become active again, you risk developing mutations that could be drug resistant so really, you want it to be well controlled. Take care, Tracey > > Hello All > > Been a while since I have been here. Lots has happened too. Let me bring > you all up to date. > > I was diagnosed 5/5/02 after losing my mom to CLL in Nov. of 01. I > reached PCRU 5 years ago TODAY and have remained there since. I took 400 > mg gleevec and had initial side effects that were hard but they > subsided. Then about two years ago, they began to gear up and I had so > man of them, wood legs, joint pain and crippling cramps, that I thought > I was going to quit work. I took a gleevec break for 10 weeks, ( in > consult with Drucker and my oncologist). I went back on at 300 mg a day > and the side effects returned. I finally switched drugs to Tasigna on > Dec. 26 of last year. I began at 800 mg and for two weeks, begged for > gleevec again. I had pain, complete body rash, and thought I was going > to go crazy. Then we broke for 5 days. In that short time, all side > effects went away. I began again on Jan. 28 at 400 mg. The side effects > there but mild. I seem to be doing well. The PCRU continues - thanks be > to my God. I have more energy than ever before. My rash is gone. I have > good SKIN - - know how Gleevec makes it tear easily and you burn so bad? > I am working on a tan now!! I do have some water retention and some > joint pain but NOTHING like before. I am a pretty happy camper on this > stuff. So the oncologist says go it this way until August and see if I > do well, then maybe, just maybe we will up it to 800 again. I think I > will try to talk him out of it though. > > I am well, happy and about to take a group of 18 from the school I teach > at to Tijuana Mexico for mission work next week on spring break. It > should be fun. > > Hope all are well and I give you all my best. > > Barb in AZ > > PS: HI SUSAN!! GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU! > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Ditto on the Tasigna. I just started on Feb1 and so far is treating me much better than Gleevec (espcially as re: GI issues, plus kind of nice to have my skin back ) I see people really suffering on Gleevec and am hoping Tasigna will alleviate this for more folks. Guess time will tell. Rick mtmaynor@... wrote: : I too go to Moffit and I too will be there on Thursday of this week for my annual BMB. I have not been thrilled with their labs, but overall I am thrilled with my oncologist and the amount of time he spends with me and the information he gives and receives. He is always eager to share the latest information and to listen to what I have to say. I too started Tasigna last November and after the initial adjustment think it is better for me than Gleevec was for the three years I was on it. I hope it goes well for you. Matt ville, FL **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030\ 000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 NEW TOPIC Has anyone ever had high Platlets? Mine was 519 then 501 within three weeks. I just got back from having another CBC and my Onocologist Pharmacist said if they do not go down he wants to increase the Tasagna. I said " no " I do not want to. My feelings are that the platlets went up while I was off all medication-what has that got to do with increasing the dosage???? I will know later if they went down. I sure hope so. Because I am feeling great on 400mg. Sharon _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Rick Olds Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Barb as the Tasigna Poster Child Ditto on the Tasigna. I just started on Feb1 and so far is treating me much better than Gleevec (espcially as re: GI issues, plus kind of nice to have my skin back ) I see people really suffering on Gleevec and am hoping Tasigna will alleviate this for more folks. Guess time will tell. Rick mtmaynoraol (DOT) <mailto:mtmaynor%40aol.com> com wrote: : I too go to Moffit and I too will be there on Thursday of this week for my annual BMB. I have not been thrilled with their labs, but overall I am thrilled with my oncologist and the amount of time he spends with me and the information he gives and receives. He is always eager to share the latest information and to listen to what I have to say. I too started Tasigna last November and after the initial adjustment think it is better for me than Gleevec was for the three years I was on it. I hope it goes well for you. Matt ville, FL **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home. <http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom0 0030000000001> aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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