Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Donna, congratulations on beating back your WBC in such short time. Unvelievable. I hope the trend continues until you reach PCRU and thump your nose at the blasted disease. Is that a record, or what. You are right, it doesn't matter what your counts were when you were diagnosed, it's how you get treatment and respond to it. Are you on Gleevec? AndeJane, you have a very lovely and unusual name. I regret that you are yet another patient with CML, but you are not a casualty nor a victim. You can beat CML by fighting back. CCR will be gradual as the drugs kill off the immature white cells that are invading your body. You can take a vacation from CML, get the rash treated by a good dermatologist and you should be able to go back to Gleevec. It has been the rule that anything below 400 mg. is sub-optimal, although some have never been able to tolerate 300 mg. better and have gone on to reach CCR. I, personally would be afraid to go on 100 unless my counts were very low. That happened to me, getting off Inteferon, they started me on 100 and gradually increased until I got up to 600 mg., all at my urging. I am glad that you found this site and want you to know that we are here for you. You are so lucky to be meeting Zazzy, I don't think any of us had have had the pleasure yet, but that will change when you have the chance to meet up. I know you will have a lot to talk about and learn a lot from her. Marcos, thanks for posting the information, but when I went to the URL your provided, there was a fee of over $700, a bit much for my budget this week. LOL. Congratulations Patti for your patience in enduring the awful rash, for that you get a medal. I had it on my ankles and and in other places, like needle tracks, but they don't itch as much as the ankles. I had to put ice bags on it to relieve the itching. Some people are unable to tolerate the drug and are therefore resistant. I also wore high top socks to keep me from scratching. I am now on SKI and even on a sub-optimal dose of 300 mg., somehow managed to get a reduction in my Ph+, but I have to put up with the side effects of back pain, fatigue and stomach cramps. If anyone has had a gall bladder removed, they will mostly always have problems with the digestive tract according to what my doctor told me yesterday. We all know what the " runs " are. LOL. He showed me a chart and explained what happens to the bile and then said if I didn't understand it, he would explain it again. Now that doctor gets a thumbs up from me. It's good to see that you have such a positive attitude for the future. All best wishes to you for hanging in there and passing on your exuberance to the rest of us, it is refreshing. Vicki, I hope your dark days are over, and that you are now able to work again is miraculous. I have to admire people who work with CML. I just cannot imagine how I would do it. You mentioned Lyrica. My gosh, how can you function with all of those potent drugs? I took one Lyrica the doctor gave me today and I have been in la la land ever since. I couldn't stand up and had to go back to bed and stayed there all day. My husband came home from work at about 5:30 p.m. and I was just starting to stir about. My memory is singed and I can't even remember names of people I know, I mean totally blank. I told my husband to just fix everyone a grilled cheese sandwich and that is what we had. Always good in an emergency. You go girl, and keep rocking the boat. Lottie Susie, Bobby knows me well enough to know how I suffer from Big " D " . Immodium does not work for me, but I do carry some in my purse. My doctor told me yesterday to use Colace, a prescription that binds the bile that causes it and to also use pysillium twice a day. I bought the flavored one and it's o.k. What works for me is Lotmtil and Paregoric, both prescriptions. Bobby and I have both gone the route with all the older drugs out there and the newer kinase inhibitors. Though she is a year younger than me, she has had CML one year longer. She's unstoppable. You wind her up and off she goes. She has a wonderful adventuresome spirit and a survivor and best of all a good and loyal friend. Do see a doctor of Internal Medicine to see if he can give you something for the nausea. For the diarrhea, see a good gastrointerologist. I went to the Internist first and he sent me to the Gastrointerologist and after the results were in, went back to Internist. Maybe some would not understand why I see so many doctors, but I want the best care, so I see an ologist for everything. I note that some others do the same. I have the comfort in knowing I sought the best care and the rest is up to GOD. I just have to be sure that each doctor knows what the other is doing, so I have a history that I bring with me and update it for every appointment as it is constantly changing. When they ask if I am still on Gleevec, I laugh because I then know I haven't been there in a long, long time. I'm in my 5th trial, so it's hard for them to keep track. My history record brings them up to date. Lottie Dear Zazzy, your name is the last letter in the alphabet, so now I get to you. I was wondering how you could still get Lotronex if it was banned by the FDA. As for Lyrica, I took one capsule today and now I know why I stopped taking it when my neurologist gave me a sample last year. I simply cannot take it. It cut the pain in half but I am insane and my body won't function properly, either. LOL. Give me a break. I have a drug idiocyncracsy. Our old family doctor used to give me a child's portion because of the way my tissues and blood retain the drug. You go Superwoman, I can see you now with a saw and hammer in your hand. Wishing you all the best and to all on this list I send my blessings, Lottie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Hi Lottie, As I stated, Lotronex can be prescribed ONLY by GI's who are certifed. The FDA lifted its ban when so many women that it had helped petitioned them to do so. I'm so glad they did!!! Note that these GIs have to be recertified (every year I think). I'm one of the lucky few who suffer hardly any side-effects from drugs. Love, Zazz [ ] Etc., etc. Donna, congratulations on beating back your WBC in such short time. Unvelievable. I hope the trend continues until you reach PCRU and thump your nose at the blasted disease. Is that a record, or what. You are right, it doesn't matter what your counts were when you were diagnosed, it's how you get treatment and respond to it. Are you on Gleevec? AndeJane, you have a very lovely and unusual name. I regret that you are yet another patient with CML, but you are not a casualty nor a victim. You can beat CML by fighting back. CCR will be gradual as the drugs kill off the immature white cells that are invading your body. You can take a vacation from CML, get the rash treated by a good dermatologist and you should be able to go back to Gleevec. It has been the rule that anything below 400 mg. is sub-optimal, although some have never been able to tolerate 300 mg. better and have gone on to reach CCR. I, personally would be afraid to go on 100 unless my counts were very low. That happened to me, getting off Inteferon, they started me on 100 and gradually increased until I got up to 600 mg., all at my urging. I am glad that you found this site and want you to know that we are here for you. You are so lucky to be meeting Zazzy, I don't think any of us had have had the pleasure yet, but that will change when you have the chance to meet up. I know you will have a lot to talk about and learn a lot from her. Marcos, thanks for posting the information, but when I went to the URL your provided, there was a fee of over $700, a bit much for my budget this week. LOL. Congratulations Patti for your patience in enduring the awful rash, for that you get a medal. I had it on my ankles and and in other places, like needle tracks, but they don't itch as much as the ankles. I had to put ice bags on it to relieve the itching. Some people are unable to tolerate the drug and are therefore resistant. I also wore high top socks to keep me from scratching. I am now on SKI and even on a sub-optimal dose of 300 mg., somehow managed to get a reduction in my Ph+, but I have to put up with the side effects of back pain, fatigue and stomach cramps. If anyone has had a gall bladder removed, they will mostly always have problems with the digestive tract according to what my doctor told me yesterday. We all know what the " runs " are. LOL. He showed me a chart and explained what happens to the bile and then said if I didn't understand it, he would explain it again. Now that doctor gets a thumbs up from me. It's good to see that you have such a positive attitude for the future. All best wishes to you for hanging in there and passing on your exuberance to the rest of us, it is refreshing. Vicki, I hope your dark days are over, and that you are now able to work again is miraculous. I have to admire people who work with CML. I just cannot imagine how I would do it. You mentioned Lyrica. My gosh, how can you function with all of those potent drugs? I took one Lyrica the doctor gave me today and I have been in la la land ever since. I couldn't stand up and had to go back to bed and stayed there all day. My husband came home from work at about 5:30 p.m. and I was just starting to stir about. My memory is singed and I can't even remember names of people I know, I mean totally blank. I told my husband to just fix everyone a grilled cheese sandwich and that is what we had. Always good in an emergency. You go girl, and keep rocking the boat. Lottie Susie, Bobby knows me well enough to know how I suffer from Big " D " . Immodium does not work for me, but I do carry some in my purse. My doctor told me yesterday to use Colace, a prescription that binds the bile that causes it and to also use pysillium twice a day. I bought the flavored one and it's o.k. What works for me is Lotmtil and Paregoric, both prescriptions. Bobby and I have both gone the route with all the older drugs out there and the newer kinase inhibitors. Though she is a year younger than me, she has had CML one year longer. She's unstoppable. You wind her up and off she goes. She has a wonderful adventuresome spirit and a survivor and best of all a good and loyal friend. Do see a doctor of Internal Medicine to see if he can give you something for the nausea. For the diarrhea, see a good gastrointerologist. I went to the Internist first and he sent me to the Gastrointerologist and after the results were in, went back to Internist. Maybe some would not understand why I see so many doctors, but I want the best care, so I see an ologist for everything. I note that some others do the same. I have the comfort in knowing I sought the best care and the rest is up to GOD. I just have to be sure that each doctor knows what the other is doing, so I have a history that I bring with me and update it for every appointment as it is constantly changing. When they ask if I am still on Gleevec, I laugh because I then know I haven't been there in a long, long time. I'm in my 5th trial, so it's hard for them to keep track. My history record brings them up to date. Lottie Dear Zazzy, your name is the last letter in the alphabet, so now I get to you. I was wondering how you could still get Lotronex if it was banned by the FDA. As for Lyrica, I took one capsule today and now I know why I stopped taking it when my neurologist gave me a sample last year. I simply cannot take it. It cut the pain in half but I am insane and my body won't function properly, either. LOL. Give me a break. I have a drug idiocyncracsy. Our old family doctor used to give me a child's portion because of the way my tissues and blood retain the drug. You go Superwoman, I can see you now with a saw and hammer in your hand. Wishing you all the best and to all on this list I send my blessings, Lottie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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