Re: Digest Number 1319

December 10, 2000

In a message dated 12/10/00 2:27:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,

egroups writes:

<< I told her " autoimmune hepatitis. "

Her loud response was " A little too fond of the bottle, are we, >>

Harper, That is why it is so important to educate people.....Joanne

July 22, 2002

I was going to try that concoction Tripp mentioned (that her doctor used),

which is made from castor bean oil, but after doing some research, I've

reconsidered. I'm confused, because I thought castor oil was a safe laxative,

but it seems safer to take Nizoral!

http://www.portfolio.mvm.ed.ac.uk/studentwebs/session2/group13/castorbean.html

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Message: 4

Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 23:23:06 -0000

From: " jalilahs_soul " <jalilah@...>

Subject: Re: toasted bread and cheese

Here's a link to Tripp's web site. I went there today and was

very impressed. If you click on the link that says " the diet "

or " diet " (can't remember which it was), she mentions toasting. BTW,

the diet she has on her site was designed by her doctor---who treats

people without drugs for candidiasis.

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/4966/index.html

Jalilah

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July 22, 2002

Which concoction----you mean the SF-722? I'm about to order that----or

another one?

Thanx,

Diane

July 22, 2002

LOL... in my mother's time (she was old enough to be my grandmother..

I was a late baby..lol) castor oil was used for everything, including

punishment for bad kids because it tasted so awful! LOL. My brothers

had to take it, and my sisters, my mom, her mother, you name it. It

was a household item like flour and milk. No one ever became sick

from it, and my grandmother took it every day of her life until she

died...and I don't mean that like it sounds. )

I think, given what the fda and research is doing, EVERYTHING will be

bad for us in the end, and it will ALL cause cancer, and we will

surely parish if we took anything in except air, and even THAT is

getting a bad rap these days.

I'm going to try the stuff, so I'll be the guinea pig for the

board. ) I'm so sick of this candida stuff that I will try whatever

it takes.

I'll let you know if I croak..or if something falls off! LOLOL

Jalilah

>

> I was going to try that concoction Tripp mentioned (that her

doctor used), which is made from castor bean oil, but after doing

some research, I've reconsidered. I'm confused, because I thought

castor oil was a safe laxative, but it seems safer to take Nizoral!

>

http://www.portfolio.mvm.ed.ac.uk/studentwebs/session2/group13/castorb

ean.html

>

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> Message: 4

> Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 23:23:06 -0000

> From: " jalilahs_soul " <jalilah@j...>

> Subject: Re: toasted bread and cheese

>

> Here's a link to Tripp's web site. I went there today and

was

> very impressed. If you click on the link that says " the diet "

> or " diet " (can't remember which it was), she mentions toasting.

BTW,

> the diet she has on her site was designed by her doctor---who

treats

> people without drugs for candidiasis.

>

> http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/4966/index.html

>

> Jalilah

>

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>

July 16, 2003

HI Michele,

I live in Monroe. I would be interested in joining your group. Where are

you? Email me and we can talk. I may have another friend who may be

interested as well. Hope to here from you soon., Kim Mrgrinchjr@...

August 30, 2003

Message: 10

Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 12:46:39 -0400

From: " Ron Kincaid " <rekincaid@...>

Subject: Re: Q-10

Coenzyme Q10 has been marketed for everything from AIDS to anti-aging.

I

think the Q stands for Quackery.

Yeah, there's a history of it being recommended for just about anything.

But there was what my dad's neurologist tells me is a decent study re

its effects on Parkinson's patients:

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/news_and_events/pressrelease_parkinsons_coenzym

eq10_101402.htm

December 3, 2003

In a message dated 12/3/03 9:52:50 AM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

> From: " zoe88025 " <Zll51@...>

> Subject: Re: Lobelia inflata does it's thing again

>

> Hi Marilyn,

>

> Sorry Charlie had another one. Thanks for posting about the

> lobelia. I didn't know it colud be absorbed through the skin.

> z

>

Zoe

You are welcome and we are both recovering from C's seizure yesterday.

Most substances can be absorbed by the skin. For years, I crushed B12

tablets and mixed with a liquid and applied to my forearm. My friends find good

effect with oregano oil diluted in olive of coconut oil and applied to the

soles of the feet when their intestinal or mouth mucosa objects to the power of

oregano taken by mouth.

More later, I am exhausted

mjh

MJH

December 4, 2003

Thanks Marilyn,

I hope you both are recovering ok.

Zoe

> In a message dated 12/3/03 9:52:50 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> writes:

>

> > From: " zoe88025 " <Zll51@h...>

> > Subject: Re: Lobelia inflata does it's thing again

> >

> > Hi Marilyn,

> >

> > Sorry Charlie had another one. Thanks for posting about the

> > lobelia. I didn't know it colud be absorbed through the skin.

> > z

> >

>

> Zoe

> You are welcome and we are both recovering from C's seizure

yesterday.

>

> Most substances can be absorbed by the skin. For years, I

crushed B12

> tablets and mixed with a liquid and applied to my forearm. My

friends find good

> effect with oregano oil diluted in olive of coconut oil and applied

to the

> soles of the feet when their intestinal or mouth mucosa objects to

the power of

> oregano taken by mouth.

> More later, I am exhausted

> mjh

>

> MJH

>

September 14, 2004

Reply to Jo McConnell from Neil Brocklehurst:

Jo, I know Barbara's working her way through the list, so you maybe one of

the few people still left, which I know is frustrating, but probably

unavoidable: it added a huge amount to her workload. I will email you

directly to discuss this.

Neil

Research stakeholders wanted

>

>As part of a SDO funded research project: " A scoping exercise to

>conceptualise the actual and potential contribution of nurses, midwives

>and health visitors to child health and child health services, "

>stakeholder conferences are being held in Manchester on Thursday 28

>October & in London on Monday 1 November. We are looking for health

>visitors (consultant HV - practitioners HV) who would be prepared to

>share their views about the contribution of health visitors especially

>regarding disadvantaged families, minor ailments in childhood,teenage

>pregnancies, vulnerable neonates, children with complex needs, children

>in need of protection/looked after children and troubled school

>children. Attendance at the conferences is free. Please contact:

>beth.murgatroyd@... or alison.while@... to get an

>invitation on a first come-first served basis.

>

>best wishes

>

September 14, 2004

Hi Ann

My feelings are that programme content for SCPHN proficiency will need to include a strong core of public health which will be applied by any of the students to their specialism. So a HV- child, family focused will have a core and the specialism. That practitioner would probably only need to do the other specialist practice element at a subsequent point to work with a different focus.

I am concerned re a couple of other aspects- the time to complete a programme whether full or part time is very little- even to cover a natural occurance such as pregnancy and what about flexibility. Secondly the impact of agenda for change around salary for the duration of the programme. I'm convinced that the mid 'E' grade issue has inhibited some very able practitioners from accessing the programme and now we will need to also consider occupational health, communicable disease nurses- need sensitive judgement

I was uncertain re Maureen's comment in the CP around needing to provide evidence of public health acitivities- can anyone throw light on this for me?- evidence to whom, how often...

At UWE we have a strong PH focused programme and could meet these standards tommorrow but I feel still so uncomfortable that the document has not gone far enough and left so many woolly areas. I would like to see this as a chance for the practitioners to spend more time with colleagues they will work with once qualified- I'm working on that

I agree re the diversity and like the Stockport model for many reasons including continuity and focused work and therefore also aiming to stop the dilution of trying to do 'everything'. I'm spending a large protion of time currently implementing the HV/SN Practice Development Resource Pack and feel that the Stockport model has alot to offer to resolve many issues I see. But surely once a PCT has decided their model, programme content can evolve- so close links between HEIs and PCTs are imperative.

Hope that might be a little useful

Glenys Hook

UWE

September 14, 2004

Sorry one last thought- Perhaps it'll be the employers who advertise eg- SCPHN/HV for children and then interview and train into that specific role? It'll mean identifying gaps in service provision well ahead of the usual adverts for sponsorship/ secondment: but then HNA would provide some of this information?

Glenys

September 14, 2004

Message from Ann Day (via Neil, as Ann couldn't get her message posted for

some reason):

Hi Neil

Thank you all for your comments. In some ways I find it reassuring that

there is so much diversity around, which is presumably answering localised

need and reassuring me that there isn't a one size fits all approach. Neil,

whilst I welcome innovative practice such as the Stockport model you

highlight, developed and put into practice by HVs trained in the

'traditional' route, I wonder what will happen to our new SCPHN(HV) who

perhaps goes down the child & family PH route, but later decides to work in

the wider PH arena with populations? Will that practitioner have to

re-train or do an 'add on' module or what? I also echo Glenys' point - who

makes the choice, does the student actually have a choice?

Best wishes

Ann Day