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On pregnancy and gleevec Blood has a new article :

http://tinyurl.com/2yqqs4

I have never read anything about us males wanting kids and gleevec.

The only thing is, if you have an idea on what got you into the cml,

exposure to radiations (previous cancer treatment, work related, etc),

or chemicals like benzene, are known to cause cml, you should talk

about it with a specialist. These kinds of contamination are also

known to also provoke birth defects. But the vast majority of people

who have cml haven't been contaminated by any of the above, so if

nothing comes to mind the odds are low. I would think this could be

dealt with some extra care in the follow up of the featus.

Marcos.

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...> wrote:

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>

>

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> Dear Ray,

> I think Tracey has answered your question, but I do know of several people

> who successfully brought healthy babies to term. The men should check with

> their doctors how long to stay off Gleevec before attempting to impregnate

> their wives. The women of course, is a whole different story. There have

> been quite a few women with CML who were brave enough to go for it, but they

> had to stay off Gleevec the entire pregnancy. Some have had more than 1

> pregnancy.

> The researchers present the experience accumulated to date in 19 pregnancies

> involving 18 patients (10 women and 8 men) with CML who conceived while

> receiving imatinib -- the standard therapy for CML. All of the women stopped

> imatinib treatment immediately after learning they were pregnant. Three of

> the 19 pregnancies ended in spontaneous abortions (16%), including 2 (20%)

> of the 10 pregnancies in female patients. " This rate is somewhat higher than

> the reported rate of spontaneous abortions in the general population of

> approximately 10% to 15%, " the team notes. " Thus, it is possible that the

> brief exposure to imatinib may slightly increase the risk of spontaneous

> abortions. " http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/528742

>

> You might also want to view and listen to this about 2nd line therapies,

> although it has nothing to do with pregnancy:

> Myelogenous Leukemia (Slides with Audio) CME/CNCCN 2nd Annual Congress:

> Hematologic Malignancies - Update on Primary Therapy, Second-Line Therapy,

> and New Agents for Chronic E Jerald P. Radich, MD

> http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/564100

>

> Wishing you well, always,

> Lottie

>

>

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In an older paper (http://tinyurl.com/2rbqyk) something about gleevec

and male fertility :

" There was no evidence that imatinib was clastogenic

or mutagenic, thus imatinib is not felt to be genotoxic,

and spermatozoa are expected to be qualitatively

normal. However, spermatogenesis was impaired

in rats, dogs, and monkeys. This observation

raised concern that men treated with imatinib may

have reduced sperm counts. Clinical experience thus

far has not shown this to be true. Although sperm

counts were not required for assessment of toxicities

in Study 106, inadequate sperm counts have not been

reported. One patient was found to have a low-normal

sperm count during an infertility work-up. With

continued imatinib therapy, the count improved

somewhat and conception occurred without medical

intervention. A second patient had a normal sperm

count while taking imatinib prior to banking sperm.

In addition, among men being treated on clinical

trials, there are reports of 13 pregnancies in the partners

of men on imatinib, providing additional support

that spermatogenesis is not impaired. Five additional

pregnancies in partners of men taking imatinib

have been reported from patients treated outside of

clinical trials. The outcomes of these pregnancies are

detailed in Table 5:

Table 5. Outcomes of Pregnancies Among Partners of Men

Treated With Imatinib

Clinical trials

13 pregnancies in partners of male patients on imatinib:

8 chronic-phase CML (400 mg); 4 accelerated CML (600

mg); 1 GIST (800 mg)

¡ü 4 normal infants

¡ü 2 pregnancies ongoing

¡ü 2 therapeutic abortion on social grounds (normal abortus)

¡ü 1 spontaneous abortion

¡ü 1 death in utero at 13 weeks

¡ü 3 no information

Nonclinical trial spontaneous reports

5 pregnancies with limited information (4 ongoing)

They state these numbers correspond to those of the general population.

Marcos.

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Marcos Perreau Guimaraes

<montereyunderwater@...> wrote:

> On pregnancy and gleevec Blood has a new article :

> http://tinyurl.com/2yqqs4

>

> I have never read anything about us males wanting kids and gleevec.

> The only thing is, if you have an idea on what got you into the cml,

> exposure to radiations (previous cancer treatment, work related, etc),

> or chemicals like benzene, are known to cause cml, you should talk

> about it with a specialist. These kinds of contamination are also

> known to also provoke birth defects. But the vast majority of people

> who have cml haven't been contaminated by any of the above, so if

> nothing comes to mind the odds are low. I would think this could be

> dealt with some extra care in the follow up of the featus.

> Marcos.

>

>

> On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Ray,

> > I think Tracey has answered your question, but I do know of several people

> > who successfully brought healthy babies to term. The men should check with

> > their doctors how long to stay off Gleevec before attempting to impregnate

> > their wives. The women of course, is a whole different story. There have

> > been quite a few women with CML who were brave enough to go for it, but they

> > had to stay off Gleevec the entire pregnancy. Some have had more than 1

> > pregnancy.

> > The researchers present the experience accumulated to date in 19 pregnancies

> > involving 18 patients (10 women and 8 men) with CML who conceived while

> > receiving imatinib -- the standard therapy for CML. All of the women stopped

> > imatinib treatment immediately after learning they were pregnant. Three of

> > the 19 pregnancies ended in spontaneous abortions (16%), including 2 (20%)

> > of the 10 pregnancies in female patients. " This rate is somewhat higher than

> > the reported rate of spontaneous abortions in the general population of

> > approximately 10% to 15%, " the team notes. " Thus, it is possible that the

> > brief exposure to imatinib may slightly increase the risk of spontaneous

> > abortions. " http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/528742

> >

> > You might also want to view and listen to this about 2nd line therapies,

> > although it has nothing to do with pregnancy:

> > Myelogenous Leukemia (Slides with Audio) CME/CNCCN 2nd Annual Congress:

> > Hematologic Malignancies - Update on Primary Therapy, Second-Line Therapy,

> > and New Agents for Chronic E Jerald P. Radich, MD

> > http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/564100

> >

> > Wishing you well, always,

> > Lottie

> >

> >

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