Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 > Had an interesting argument with a friend the other day. > > She swears up and down that the myriad of tests that the allopaths throw > at one prevents disease. (This lady works in a medical office and has > been brainwashed thoroughly in the ways of the allopaths.) ~~~~~But can she explain HOW that happens? I mean, my husband can get his eyes tested for new glasses prescriptions, but that hasn't seemed to cure his need for them. > > I maintain that testing prevents nothing. It can find and diagnose, but > there is no way that testing, by itself, can prevent anything. > > Nothing I could say would change her mind She still insists that testing > prevents whatever is being tested for. > > Judith Alta and Oski ~~~~~Fun talking with folks like that, isn't it?! I would just adore to hear the how's and wherefore's of her <ahem> reasoning. I'm with you. Testing can locate, SOMETIMES, but I've NEVER heard of it preventing anything. What a curious notion!! Ev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Well, if they test for something and they find something.. .the test could be the instrument that starts the process of preventing the something they found from going farther...or getting worse... so to speak.. (How'd you all like that thought process!!!!! ROFL) I would have had to argue that point till I found out how she comes to that conclusion... If the test prevents the disease..... then.....how come the drs give out medicines then???Judith Alta <list@...> wrote: Had an interesting argument with a friend the other day.She swears up and down that the myriad of tests that the allopaths throw at one prevents disease. (This lady works in a medical office and has been brainwashed thoroughly in the ways of the allopaths.)I maintain that testing prevents nothing. It can find and diagnose, but there is no way that testing, by itself, can prevent anything.Nothing I could say would change her mind She still insists that testing prevents whatever is being tested for.Judith Alta and Oski Suzi List Owner health/ http://360./suziesgoats What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Not so curious a notion after you listen to the ads on TV. "Prevent breast cancer. Get squished today!" (Well, maybe not exactly those words. . .) Judith Alta and Oski wrote: Had an interesting argument with a friend the other day. She swears up and down that the myriad of tests that the allopaths throw at one prevents disease. (This lady works in a medical office and has been brainwashed thoroughly in the ways of the allopaths.) ~~~~~But can she explain HOW that happens? I mean, my husband can get his eyes tested for new glasses prescriptions, but that hasn't seemed to cure his need for them. I maintain that testing prevents nothing. It can find and diagnose, but there is no way that testing, by itself, can prevent anything. Nothing I could say would change her mind She still insists that testing prevents whatever is being tested for. Judith Alta and Oski ~~~~~Fun talking with folks like that, isn't it?! I would just adore to hear the how's and wherefore's of her <ahem> reasoning. I'm with you. Testing can locate, SOMETIMES, but I've NEVER heard of it preventing anything. What a curious notion!! Ev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Hey, Suzi, Made perfect sense to me. You think like I do. LOL Because the lady is a great friend, and I really don't want to lose that, I didn't push too hard. But I'll probably nibble on it each time I see her. Judith Alta and Oski Suzanne wrote: Well, if they test for something and they find something.. .the test could be the instrument that starts the process of preventing the something they found from going farther...or getting worse... so to speak.. (How'd you all like that thought process!!!!! ROFL) I would have had to argue that point till I found out how she comes to that conclusion... If the test prevents the disease..... then.....how come the drs give out medicines then??? Judith Alta <list@...> wrote: Had an interesting argument with a friend the other day. She swears up and down that the myriad of tests that the allopaths throw at one prevents disease. (This lady works in a medical office and has been brainwashed thoroughly in the ways of the allopaths.) I maintain that testing prevents nothing. It can find and diagnose, but there is no way that testing, by itself, can prevent anything. Nothing I could say would change her mind She still insists that testing prevents whatever is being tested for. Judith Alta and Oski Suzi List Owner health/ http://360./suziesgoats What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. _________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Well, if they test for something and they find something.. .the test could be the instrument that starts the process of preventing the something they found from going farther...or getting worse... so to speak.. (How'd you all like that thought process!!!!! ROFL) ~~~~~Actually, that thought process is right on target! Which is how the insurance companies can be persuaded to pay for said tests, though no symptoms exist. Like the annual mammogram I get. I would have had to argue that point till I found out how she comes to that conclusion... If the test prevents the disease..... then.....how come the drs give out medicines then??? ~~~~ I think I would have laughed until she got her boss on the phone! Ev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 I agree with Evie on this one. Seems a no-brainer. Sharyn -----Original Message----- From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Testing can locate, SOMETIMES, but I've NEVER heard of it preventing anything. What a curious notion!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 One wouldda thunk, huh? Judith Alta and Oski Sharyn E. Cerniglia wrote: > I agree with Evie on this one. Seems a no-brainer. > > Sharyn > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Well, you can lead a horse to water.... ***BUT IT'S REALLY HARD TO HOLD IT'S HEAD UNDER. MWAHAHAHahaha*** HUSH Guido!!! Peace, love, laughter “Go, and never darken my towels again.”Judith Alta <list@...> wrote: Had an interesting argument with a friend the other day.She swears up and down that the myriad of tests that the allopaths throw at one prevents disease. (This lady works in a medical office and has been brainwashed thoroughly in the ways of the allopaths.)I maintain that testing prevents nothing. It can find and diagnose, but there is no way that testing, by itself, can prevent anything.Nothing I could say would change her mind She still insists that testing prevents whatever is being tested for.Judith Alta and Oski . __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 STOP it! I'm supposed to be doing other stuff, but I keep reading "just one more"...!!! Yer makin' me laff! Ev <Guido's right, though. It IS hard to hld their heads anywhere they don't want them to be> Well, you can lead a horse to water.... ***BUT IT'S REALLY HARD TO HOLD IT'S HEAD UNDER. MWAHAHAHahaha*** HUSH Guido!!! Peace, love, laughter “Go, and never darken my towels again.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Then she did not learn anything in school, because that is not what we are taught in college. Janet From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Judith Alta Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:32 AM To: health Subject: Does testing " prevent " ? Had an interesting argument with a friend the other day. She swears up and down that the myriad of tests that the allopaths throw at one prevents disease. (This lady works in a medical office and has been brainwashed thoroughly in the ways of the allopaths.) I maintain that testing prevents nothing. It can find and diagnose, but there is no way that testing, by itself, can prevent anything. Nothing I could say would change her mind She still insists that testing prevents whatever is being tested for. Judith Alta and Oski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 I don't know how much college she's had. Not sure if her job requires it. But brainwashing is a powerful tool and can overwrite previous teaching. She appears to eat a "healthy" PC diet. No fat, not much meat, if any. And she's overweight and often is not feeling well. In a way I feel sorry for her, but then again there are none so blind as those who refuse to see. Judith Alta and Oski Janet wrote: Then she did not learn anything in school, because that is not what we are taught in college. Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 " She still insists that testing > prevents whatever is being tested for. " Test her for stupidity. <sorry, could not resist!!! my BAD!!!!!> Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html aeranch@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 It is so frustrating to try to talk to people who KNOW they are right. Even when they are not. Judith Alta and Oski Gayla wrote: "She still insists that testing prevents whatever is being tested for." Test her for stupidity. <sorry, could not resist!!! my BAD!!!!!> Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html aeranch@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 True, it is. But we have to keep in mind that they, just like we, were indonctrinated from before birth into this mind-set. True, some people are just plain stubborn. Some are fearful of losing a foundation. Some are "true believers". Rather than being frustrated, have compassion. Look how long it took most of us to come around. Look at how stubbornly some of us clung to our belief in "the system". Everyone grows and matures at different rates, in different ways. All we can do is till the soil, plant the seeds, and when they sprout, nurture them as best we can. Peace, love, laughter "Joy is not in things, it is in us."Judith Alta <list@...> wrote: It is so frustrating to try to talk to people who KNOW they are right. Even when they are not.Judith Alta and Oski . __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 If you can tell that this is not their moment for being enlightened, then the ol' "smile and nod" technique comes in handy. Saves you dents in your forehead from banging up against the brick wall.... Ev It is so frustrating to try to talk to people who KNOW they are right. Even when they are not.Judith Alta and Oski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Good thoughts, , I love this lady dearly and do hate to see her so brainwashed. Never did I buy into the idea that phony phood is better for you than the real stuff Mother Nature has for us. Judith Alta and Oski wrote: True, it is. But we have to keep in mind that they, just like we, were indonctrinated from before birth into this mind-set. True, some people are just plain stubborn. Some are fearful of losing a foundation. Some are "true believers". Rather than being frustrated, have compassion. Look how long it took most of us to come around. Look at how stubbornly some of us clung to our belief in "the system". Everyone grows and matures at different rates, in different ways. All we can do is till the soil, plant the seeds, and when they sprout, nurture them as best we can. Peace, love, laughter "Joy is not in things, it is in us." Judith Alta <list@...> wrote: It is so frustrating to try to talk to people who KNOW they are right. Even when they are not. Judith Alta and Oski .. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Ain't dat da truth?!?!? Judith Alta and Oski wrote: If you can tell that this is not their moment for being enlightened, then the ol' "smile and nod" technique comes in handy. Saves you dents in your forehead from banging up against the brick wall.... Ev It is so frustrating to try to talk to people who KNOW they are right. Even when they are not. Judith Alta and Oski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 My daddy always said, “when the whole world is wrong and you are right, perhaps you are the one that is wrong.” I always think of that when my mind starts to narrow. Janet From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Judith Alta Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:48 PM health Subject: Re: Does testing " prevent " ? It is so frustrating to try to talk to people who KNOW they are right. Even when they are not. Judith Alta and Oski Gayla wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 That's definitely good to keep in mind - the FRONT of your mind! But still. Sometimes the other guy is wrong, plain and simple! Unless we've achieved Star Trek technology regarding tests, I've yet to hear of the one that prevents as well as discovers... Ev My daddy always said, “when the whole world is wrong and you are right, perhaps you are the one that is wrong.” I always think of that when my mind starts to narrow. Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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