food combining

May 6, 2004

Hi Garrett,

I did not see any responses to your question. I guess that means the

answer is " No, not really. "

Other than that, I would say that having a cheese sauce on broccoli

might be included in the category of food combining. I think the NT

book has some commentary about the benefits of that sort of thing.

Also, having fresh berries with raw cream is a good way to get more

nutrition out of them.

I haven't seen much concern with food combining, per se. No

restrictions against having fruit with protein, or fruit with carbs,

or that sort of thing. There's more concern with preparing the

various foods in ways that maximize their benefit...and enjoyment.

> Hi, this is my first post and just got Nourishing Traditions book

> few days ago. I enjoyed it much. Anyway, a quesiton about food

> combining. Do you all follow food combining rule to optimize the

> digestion? Any opinion on this?

May 6, 2004

Thank you. Yeah I had found this information in the book, Nourishing

Traditions. I got it few days ago. I skimmed and digested many

information as much as I could. Now I am on good ground. I am on the

way beginning of this diet journey. My present step is to look for

raw dairy and organic, pasture-fed meat. And make best out of what I

have right now. I feel truly happy that I have discovered this gem

of information.

> > Hi, this is my first post and just got Nourishing Traditions

book

> > few days ago. I enjoyed it much. Anyway, a quesiton about food

> > combining. Do you all follow food combining rule to optimize the

> > digestion? Any opinion on this?

May 6, 2004

So how did you happen onto Nourishing Traditions?

> > > Hi, this is my first post and just got Nourishing Traditions

> book

> > > few days ago. I enjoyed it much. Anyway, a quesiton about food

> > > combining. Do you all follow food combining rule to optimize

the

> > > digestion? Any opinion on this?

May 6, 2004

Sure, it is my pleasure to share with you about my dietary journey.

Since I have ance, I checked a book called Acne Prescription about

half a year ago. It was about nutrition to clean inside to get rid

of acne. It wasnt worked for me. I think because it got no fermented

food or probiotic. So, I have transferred myself into raw vegan diet

where I learned from message board. I sticked it on for three

months. Again, it wasnt worked for me. Last month, I got an E book

program called Your Last Acne Solution. Its diet rules are pretty

much similar to Nourishing Traditions but I only can eat organic

fowl half of my fist or less because it will slow the bowel transit

time and will pollute my blood if I eat more. My digestion had went

worse and worse. Last week, I once heard about Nourishing

Traditions. I decided to check amazon.com about this. I always love

to research and learn about nutriton. I got it last few days and

same time I decided to increase my meat intake. Interesting, my

digestion had improved. So, that is how I got myself to here. Yeah,

I still have acne. I just ordered Cod Liver Oil to supply myself

Vitamin A and D. I also supply myself more meat. I recently ate rare

organic, grass-fed ribeye steak. Oh god it was so good. I miss it. I

havent eat it for than a half of year. I was suprised that I found

it at whole foods market today. I actually found grass-fed meat

there. Hmm. Tomorrow, I am going to eat salmon. Maybe, raw if I

like. I am going to continue eating fermented food to supply

intestinal flora after my five years in row using antibiotics for

acne, sighs. I feel great now.

> So how did you happen onto Nourishing Traditions?

>

May 6, 2004

wow, garrett - quite the story!

from an herbal point of view, acne almost always correlates to liver

problems, which is no surprise given your previous nutritional forrays...

in addition to the great changes your making, i'd suggest a nice detox tea

- traditional medicinals makes a good one, or you can make it yourself with

equal parts dandelion root and burdock root. just toss them in a pot and

boil for 15 minutes (this is called decocting - slightly different than

making leaf teas), and drink 2-3 cups per day. this is a very slow

liver/blood cleansing process: if you move too quickly to clean it all out,

you'll likely overwhelm your body with all the crud it has to get rid of...

good luck!

katja

At 10:37 PM 5/6/2004, you wrote:

>Sure, it is my pleasure to share with you about my dietary journey.

>Since I have ance, I checked a book called Acne Prescription about

>half a year ago.

May 7, 2004

>. So, that is how I got myself to here. Yeah,

>I still have acne.

For what it is worth, I break out if I eat wheat. However,

my daughter never gets wheat, and SHE breaks out if she

eats cream. *Cooked* cream (as in pudding) however

is ok. I'm not at all sure what that means, except that

maybe it has to do with the hormone content ...

-- Heidi Jean

May 7, 2004

Yeah, I have learned that acne is a sign that liver isnt in good

condition. Liver will be my next focus after my bowel got

regenerated. What I plan to do when I am cleansing and regenerating

my liver is to flush, then take herbs to clean it for two weeks,

then flush, then take herbs to rebuild liver for two weeks, then

flush, then take off from herbs for two weeks. Keep this cycle until

I am out of stones. What think, Katja?

> >Sure, it is my pleasure to share with you about my dietary

journey.

> >Since I have ance, I checked a book called Acne Prescription about

> >half a year ago.

May 7, 2004

Garrett,

Throw this into your mix of info. I've had problems with acne my

whole life except twice.

I had lovely skin about 6 years ago on a strict vegan healing

diet...lots of green juices, fruit, salads, tofu etc. I was also on

a soy supplement for a fibroid. People would comment on my skin and

still to this day tell me how nice my skin looked on that diet.

BUT....then I started getting rapid growth of the fibroid I was

trying to heal (I had to have it removed) and rotting teeth (this

began to happen after a year or so). That's how I found Weston price

and began to really change my diet....every so slowly as I had no

idea really how to cook meat and locating sources was really, really

hard.

The second time I've been acne free is now...although my skin isn't

quite as lovely but I'm also 50 now.

The only thing I can attribute this to is coconut oil. I've been

eating fairly weston price with lots of other fats for quite awhile

and was still getting acne. Since I've been doing 2-3 tbsp coconut

it's essentially gone!

So there's another little piece of info for your search,

Bye

Lynn

May 7, 2004

Lynn, thank you for sharing with me. Yeah, I have been consuming

plenty of coconut oil. I know it takes time to heal.

Garrett

March 19, 2006

I have done some food combining in the past and I think some of it works.

One thing especially works if you have constipation problems is to only eat

fruit in the morning but not with citrus. I have to say though, that I had

that problem most of my life until I first went on Atkins and I think most

of that problem is lack of fat because I have had no problems since changing

my diet. In the old testament law they were not allowed to eat certain

foods together. Try some of it for what might be beneficial for your

specific problem and see if it works. I don't see how you can not have

protein with out fat though. That goes against nature in my opinion.

Allyn

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Subject: Food Combining

Is anyone here well versed in food combining. I have heard snippets

of it's importance and I finally read up on the combos last night. I

think it would truly be a nightmare to follow all the rules. Like not

mixing fat and protein, how would you cook your eggs? Another example

is dairy - eat alone. Or something no starches with acid fruits, does

this mean no strawberries in my oatmeal?

I am sort of curious about doing this b/c cultures from years past

were cited for following it, sort of native nutritionishly. Also I

don't think people would go through the pain of doing it unless it

worked favorably. Is this anyone's forte?

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March 19, 2006

Did it stricly for awhile. Not impressed!

TT

--- crayfishfeed <crayfishfeed@...> wrote:

> Is anyone here well versed in food combining. I

> have heard snippets

> of it's importance and I finally read up on the

> combos last night. I

> think it would truly be a nightmare to follow all

> the rules. Like not

> mixing fat and protein, how would you cook your

> eggs? Another example

> is dairy - eat alone. Or something no starches with

> acid fruits, does

> this mean no strawberries in my oatmeal?

>

> I am sort of curious about doing this b/c cultures

> from years past

> were cited for following it, sort of native

> nutritionishly. Also I

> don't think people would go through the pain of

> doing it unless it

> worked favorably. Is this anyone's forte?

>

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March 19, 2006

For how long? How strictly? I have only done it for a day and this

is the first time I haven't had acid reflux in week.

-- In , t tarail <ttarail@...> wrote:

>

> Did it stricly for awhile. Not impressed!

> TT

>

> --- crayfishfeed <crayfishfeed@...> wrote:

>

> > Is anyone here well versed in food combining. I

> > have heard snippets

> > of it's importance and I finally read up on the

> > combos last night. I

> > think it would truly be a nightmare to follow all

> > the rules. Like not

> > mixing fat and protein, how would you cook your

> > eggs? Another example

> > is dairy - eat alone. Or something no starches with

> > acid fruits, does

> > this mean no strawberries in my oatmeal?

> >

> > I am sort of curious about doing this b/c cultures

> > from years past

> > were cited for following it, sort of native

> > nutritionishly. Also I

> > don't think people would go through the pain of

> > doing it unless it

> > worked favorably. Is this anyone's forte?

> >

>

> __________________________________________________

>

March 19, 2006

You wanna know a good trick for constipation? Try not to eat after

7pm, and first thing in the morning quickly drink 16oz. of hot water.

Its not %100 effective but its supposedly really good for flushing

toxins out of the kidneys and is worth trying if you have regularity

problems. Most times you will have to go to the toilet shortly

Also, to

I have tried food combining before, and a lot of things don't seem to

make a difference.

Some things I do believe in is that for some people mixing raw fruit

with other foods can cause a problem, but cooked or dried fruits seem

to be fine with most meals.

I also think fresh milk is best if you drink it by itself...but

fermented dairy goes great with meals.

If you are unsure, test it out for yourself. I did and found that

most of the food combining stuff wasn't true for me.

-

>

> I have done some food combining in the past and I think some of it

works.

> One thing especially works if you have constipation problems is to

only eat

> fruit in the morning but not with citrus. I have to say though,

that I had

> that problem most of my life until I first went on Atkins and I

think most

> of that problem is lack of fat because I have had no problems since

changing

> my diet. In the old testament law they were not allowed to eat certain

> foods together. Try some of it for what might be beneficial for your

> specific problem and see if it works. I don't see how you can not have

> protein with out fat though. That goes against nature in my opinion.

> Allyn

>

> _____

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of crayfishfeed

> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 11:18 AM

>

> Subject: Food Combining

>

> Is anyone here well versed in food combining. I have heard snippets

> of it's importance and I finally read up on the combos last night. I

> think it would truly be a nightmare to follow all the rules. Like not

> mixing fat and protein, how would you cook your eggs? Another example

> is dairy - eat alone. Or something no starches with acid fruits, does

> this mean no strawberries in my oatmeal?

>

> I am sort of curious about doing this b/c cultures from years past

> were cited for following it, sort of native nutritionishly. Also I

> don't think people would go through the pain of doing it unless it

> worked favorably. Is this anyone's forte?

>

March 20, 2006

I did it for months.

But if it works for you why even question anyone else

about it?

TT

--- crayfishfeed <crayfishfeed@...> wrote:

> For how long? How strictly? I have only done it

> for a day and this

> is the first time I haven't had acid reflux in week.

>

> -- In , t tarail

> <ttarail@...> wrote:

> >

> > Did it stricly for awhile. Not impressed!

> > TT

> >

> > --- crayfishfeed <crayfishfeed@...> wrote:

> >

> > > Is anyone here well versed in food combining. I

> > > have heard snippets

> > > of it's importance and I finally read up on the

> > > combos last night. I

> > > think it would truly be a nightmare to follow

> all

> > > the rules. Like not

> > > mixing fat and protein, how would you cook your

> > > eggs? Another example

> > > is dairy - eat alone. Or something no starches

> with

> > > acid fruits, does

> > > this mean no strawberries in my oatmeal?

> > >

> > > I am sort of curious about doing this b/c

> cultures

> > > from years past

> > > were cited for following it, sort of native

> > > nutritionishly. Also I

> > > don't think people would go through the pain of

> > > doing it unless it

> > > worked favorably. Is this anyone's forte?

> > >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

March 20, 2006

>

> For how long? How strictly? I have only done it for a day and this

> is the first time I haven't had acid reflux in week.

Crayfish,

I'm more interested in what you ate that gave you a relief from the

reflux than the particular cobination per se. And then contrast that

with what you normally eat. I'd like to know both.

Which rules of combining are you reading that say no protein with

fat--gotta link? I'm not familiar with that particular rule. But I

don't know much about it, only the Ayurvedic rules and I may have

glossed over anything I didn't want to hear.

B.

March 20, 2006

>

> I did it for months.

> But if it works for you why even question anyone else

> about it?

TT,

her immediate success with it made her curious and she asked for

feedback from others more experienced. That's what a list like this

is for.

B.

March 20, 2006

Forgive me.

I did it for months. I usually give any food change

about 3 months to see if it really works for me. I saw

no change, but that could have been because I was so

stressed @ the time (about something else) and my

health was so poor I wasn't digesting anything.

After many years of variuos support I'm much better.

Homeopathic, herbs, blood type diet and the native

nutrition, esp. kefir has really changed my digestion.

Infact this is the first time in decades that I have

no evidence of thrush/candidia on my tounge. Love this

diet most. And I'm still nursing an 8month old

practically exclusily and this diet produces so much

more milk then anything else that I've tried. Not to

mention taking off practically all of the pregnacy

weight that was still hanging around.

TT

--- downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > I did it for months.

> > But if it works for you why even question anyone

> else

> > about it?

>

> TT,

> her immediate success with it made her curious and

> she asked for

> feedback from others more experienced. That's what

> a list like this

> is for.

> B.

>

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March 20, 2006

, some websites are http://www.hps-online.com/food/ which

actually mentions the pottenger study in its criticism of

pastuerized milk and http://ezinearticles.com/?Secrets-of-Food-

Combining & id=114178 Actually here is an excerpt: " The second

important rule for food combining is to avoid mixing proteins and

fats at the same meal. Fat in foods inhibits the secretion of

gastric juice through the small wall. Thus when fat-concentrated

foods are taken with protein foods, gastric catabolism will decrease

by the degree of liquid concentration in the stomach. Fat will

remain undigested in the stomach until gastric juices complete their

work on the complex protein molecule. Although all primary protein

foods contain high concentration of fat, such lipids will be held in

suspension, awaiting catabolism in the intestine , without impeding

gastric action. Free fats like oil, butter, and milk tend to coat

the gastric mucoa, thereby inhibiting its effort to secrete gastric

juice. Fat surrounding fried foods is also regarded as free fat and

it interferes with gastric catabolism. "

There was another website that had charts that was helpful but I'm

still confused about some of the combos which is why I mentioned it

on here to begin with. Like the fat and protein one. I didn't know

if I misunderstood it or not. Again what would I cook an egg in?

And the whole fermentation thing brings up more questions.

What I was eating that bothered me was lettuce and meat with olive

oil or another time was chicken and creme fraiche in lettuce wraps.

(I know it sounds wierd but it's really good with turmeric and salt)

What I did that made me feel better was eating protein by itself.

I don't know which website mentioned that Asians would pay close

attention to the rules. That was the part I thought was really up

Native Nutrition's alley.

I think it's really complicated to eat this way, maybe a

complication I don't want in my life but I had never had acid reflux

before (except the time after I drank a lot of Frangelica) and my

baking soda test had poor results. So my practitioner was the one

who mentioned food combining.

> >

> > For how long? How strictly? I have only done it for a day and

this

> > is the first time I haven't had acid reflux in week.

>

> Crayfish,

> I'm more interested in what you ate that gave you a relief from the

> reflux than the particular cobination per se. And then contrast

that

> with what you normally eat. I'd like to know both.

>

> Which rules of combining are you reading that say no protein with

> fat--gotta link? I'm not familiar with that particular rule. But

I

> don't know much about it, only the Ayurvedic rules and I may have

> glossed over anything I didn't want to hear.

> B.

>

March 20, 2006

You will find in time the ones you will continue with and the others will

fall away or you may find you don't want to do it at all.

Allyn

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From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of crayfishfeed

Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 3:02 PM

Subject: Re: Food Combining

Because I had actual questions about some of the food combinations.-

-- In , t tarail <ttarail@...> wrote:

>

> I did it for months.

> But if it works for you why even question anyone else

> about it?

> TT

>

> --- crayfishfeed <crayfishfeed@...> wrote:

>

> > For how long? How strictly? I have only done it

> > for a day and this

> > is the first time I haven't had acid reflux in week.

> >

> > -- In , t tarail

> > <ttarail@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Did it stricly for awhile. Not impressed!

> > > TT

> > >

> > > --- crayfishfeed <crayfishfeed@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Is anyone here well versed in food combining. I

> > > > have heard snippets

> > > > of it's importance and I finally read up on the

> > > > combos last night. I

> > > > think it would truly be a nightmare to follow

> > all

> > > > the rules. Like not

> > > > mixing fat and protein, how would you cook your

> > > > eggs? Another example

> > > > is dairy - eat alone. Or something no starches

> > with

> > > > acid fruits, does

> > > > this mean no strawberries in my oatmeal?

> > > >

> > > > I am sort of curious about doing this b/c

> > cultures

> > > > from years past

> > > > were cited for following it, sort of native

> > > > nutritionishly. Also I

> > > > don't think people would go through the pain of

> > > > doing it unless it

> > > > worked favorably. Is this anyone's forte?

> > > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

March 20, 2006

Fat and protein ok here.

http://www.drkaslow.com/html/food_combining.html

Wanita

crayfishfeed <crayfishfeed@...> wrote: