RE: MEAT OR NO MEAT ... is that the question?

November 1, 2007

Well said:

" The desire to experience pleasure. "

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> Some interesting reading all basically conclude in the end..we

don't need meat

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> http://www.goveg.com/naturalhumandiet_physiology.asp

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> http://www.celestialhealing.net/physicalveg3.htm

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> http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_087.html

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> LEANING ON THE OTHER SIDE.

> There is, however, an important difference between the

consumption of meat and that of other foods. The difference

involves " desire " and the role it plays in the elevation of creation.

> The human being cannot live without the vegetable and mineral

components of his diet. Thus, he is compelled to eat them by the

most basic of his physical drives—the preservation of his existence.

Meat, however, is not a necessity but a luxury; the desire for meat

is not a desire motivated by need, but desire in its purest sense—

the desire to experience pleasure.

http://www.meaningfullife.com/personal/food/Meat.php tHIS SITE

LEANS TOWARDS EATING MEAT.

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> There are probably otheres but here are a few... I'm off to bed.

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> Suzi

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November 1, 2007

I find questionable that to eat meat produces pleasure. I remember that when I was a child and I was forced to eat meat, I strongly disliked it. Instead, I was happy eating vegetables, fruits, chocolate and other goodies.

When in my twenties I met a vegetarian lady, I jumped of enthusiasm and asked her lots of questions. In a matter of a few minutes I decided that I was going to be a vegetarian right away. Since this day I never ate any animal flesh again. I confess that I felt liberated and happy of my decision. This is one of the best things I have done in my life.

The change in diet soon revealed me many important things and this led me to study nutrition, natural therapies and showed me there was another way of living and healing.

Rena

MEAT OR NO MEAT ... is that the question?

Some interesting reading all basically conclude in the end..we don't need meat

http://www.goveg.com/naturalhumandiet_physiology.asp

http://www.celestialhealing.net/physicalveg3.htm

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_087.html

LEANING ON THE OTHER SIDE.

There is, however, an important difference between the consumption of meat and that of other foods. The difference involves “desire” and the role it plays in the elevation of creation.

The human being cannot live without the vegetable and mineral components of his diet. Thus, he is compelled to eat them by the most basic of his physical drives—the preservation of his existence. Meat, however, is not a necessity but a luxury; the desire for meat is not a desire motivated by need, but desire in its purest sense—the desire to experience pleasure. http://www.meaningfullife.com/personal/food/Meat.php tHIS SITE LEANS TOWARDS EATING MEAT.

There are probably otheres but here are a few... I'm off to bed.

Suzi

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health/

http://360./suziesgoats

What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered.

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November 1, 2007

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> I find questionable that to eat meat produces pleasure. I remember

that when I was a child and I was forced to eat meat, I strongly

disliked it. Instead, I was happy eating vegetables, fruits,

chocolate and other goodies.

> The change in diet soon revealed me many important things and this

led me to study nutrition, natural therapies and showed me there was

another way of living and healing.

> Rena

I am sincerely pleased that your diet and lifestyle change brought

you happiness.

What *I* find questionable, and objectionable in the extreme, is the

implied moral judgement on meat-eating. Because I eat meat, I am

possessed of lesser values and ethics?

It seems that some people here are very graciously allowing me to be

~wrong~ until I ~evolve~ enough to see the light and turn from my

base ways.

I think that seems more close-minded and arrogant than my belief

that I am correct to include meat in my diet.

Or am I interpreting some of these posts incorrectly?

Ev

November 1, 2007

Ev, I think you're interpreting a bit harsh here.. Many of us us eat meat.... however, I for one do enjoy some meat.. but I know how much better I feel and do without it in my diet... I, like Sharyn, get a craving now and then... of course having a DH who likes his meat and potatoes (so to speak)... doesn't help... (I hear you Sharyn) You are where you need to be.. it is neither right or wrong... it is where you choose to be. If you feel you are being judged, I will apologize for that as we do not judge here. Suzi autumn3scorpio <autumn3scorpio@...> wrote: It seems that some people here are very graciously allowing me to be ~wrong~ until I ~evolve~ enough to see the light and turn from my base ways.I

think that seems more close-minded and arrogant than my belief that I am correct to include meat in my diet.Or am I interpreting some of these posts incorrectly?Ev __________________________________________________

November 1, 2007

Rena, maybe eating meat doesn’t give

*you* pleasure – and obviously

not many other HAWKers. However, I’m willing to bet that there are just

as many people here for whom eating meat *does*

give pleasure. And I think we should continue our policy of being tolerant of

each others’ differences.

When I was a child, I was forced to eat

lima beans. I strongly disliked them. Still do. But I’m sure there are

lots of people out there who love them. Go figure…there’s no

accounting for taste.<G>

Sharyn

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I find questionable that to eat meat produces pleasure. I remember that

when I was a child and I was forced to eat meat, I strongly disliked it.

November 1, 2007

I just share my experience. In addition, my opinion about the implications of eating animal flesh I just keep it for myself.

If you are happy eating meat and you feel this is the right way, the opinions of others shouldn't mind to you.

On the other side, we, vegetarians, are a minority and we are broadly criticized.