Guest guest Posted October 10, 1999 Report Share Posted October 10, 1999 And, chamomile antidotes coffee I was told. Probably not entirely, probably only the caffein. Aikya Coffee substitute > From: " Fay Kelley " <faysuzanne2@...> > > > > Aikya - > > Thanks for your suggestions. Since I am allergic to soy I have it only > occasionally on cereal or with chocolate. > > The tea recipe with fennel, cumin and coriander sounds wonderful. > > I do have some fenugreek tea and like that. . .perhaps I can through some of > the other into that! > > I acutally like water! Seltzer and lemon or lime is luxurious for me and > chamomille tea before bed has been pretty good. > > Thanx! > > Fay > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 Lilla, I really hate to do this to you (especially since Teeccino was my favorite coffee substitute as well), but Teeccino is now an avoid for O's. In LR4YT, barley is now an avoid for all O's and dates are also an avoid for non-secretor O's. Our only coffee substitutes at this point are: Raja's Cup (an antioxidant tea that tastes similar to coffee) Dacopa (roasted dahlia syrup - similar flavor to grain based substitutes but with no grain) Roasted Dandelion Root (thinner in body but has the added benefit of being beneficial for O's) With much sympathy and a cupboard full of Teeccino I no longer drink :-( Dianne in LA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2002 Report Share Posted September 17, 2002 Isn't chicory still a root - maybe with tannic acid??? I am not a coffee drinker - just wondering. in GA > Coffee Substitute > > > Hi Everyone, > > I thought I'd pass on a good find. I miss my coffee so much > I have tried a substitute. It is called Cafix. It comes as > a powder or granules. The granules are easier to dissolve. > It tastes great. It is very much like coffee but is made > with barley, rye and chicory. There is none of the acidity > or caffeine which can cause us problems. And I love it. > > I buy it at my natural foods store for $6.75 for 7 oz ($.16 > per cup). I mix one teaspoon with hot water and drink. It > couldn't be easier. > > - January 4, 2002 250 then/182 now/130 goal > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2002 Report Share Posted September 21, 2002 great to hear from you. Call me sometime your littermate in sville. Coffee Substitute > Hi Everyone, > > I thought I'd pass on a good find. I miss my coffee so much I have > tried a substitute. It is called Cafix. It comes as a powder or > granules. The granules are easier to dissolve. It tastes great. It is > very much like coffee but is made with barley, rye and chicory. There > is none of the acidity or caffeine which can cause us problems. And I > love it. > > I buy it at my natural foods store for $6.75 for 7 oz ($.16 per cup). I > mix one teaspoon with hot water and drink. It couldn't be easier. > > - January 4, 2002 250 then/182 now/130 goal > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Did you taper down or quit cold turkey? Dr. Kathleen DesMaisons has an interesting article on what to " put in " to your body as well as " take out " from using stimulants. It's not just a matter of taking out the caffeine; the body has to re-regulate to run without it: http://www.radiantrecovery.com/newsletter2/stimulantuse.htm Restoring Your Brain and Body after Stimulant Use Kathleen DesMaisons, Ph.D. I have recently been working with a number of folks who are trying to crawl back to sanity after detoxing from stimulant addiction. This includes things like cocaine, methamphetamine, diet pills, ephedrine drinks, psuedopepipephrine drinks, Sudafed, caffeine, Ritalin, or NutraSweet products. All of these substances activate or cause to be activated a brain chemical called dopamine. Dopamine makes you feel bright, clear, focused and functional. When you first start using these substances, you feel like you can take on the world. After a while, your brain adjusts and you simply feel " normal " after use and very discombobulated when the effect wears off. Addiction sets in when you start needing your substance in order to stave off the withdrawal. Withdrawal from these substances makes you feel just the opposite. You feel dull, foggy, sludgy, torpid, teary, scattered and incapable of functioning. And as soon as you get your `drug " , even if it is a Diet Coke, you feel better. Stimulant addiction is seductive. You feel so fine when you are using and so bad when you are not, it is almost inconceivable to imagine not having it. But, part of you has known that it is progressive and you are feeling worse. You no longer have times of feeling good, and a particular kind of bone weary exhaustion started setting in. You had to up the dose, or shorten the time between your " fixes " . What started as one latte in the morning became a triple in the morning and a single in the afternoon just to function. You knew you were in trouble and decided it was time to get off. Doing the steps helped to get you to this place. You have been reasonably steady with your food and you were ready to get out from under this addiction. For the sake of this discussion, I am going to assume you have stopped using and you feel pretty crappy. This is a how to intervention to hold you up and restore your brain so that your willingness to get clean can stick over time. There are 3 very specific changes you are going to make over a 3-month period to get your old brain back. [and yes, you will get back to normal!] 1) Increase your protein intake to .6 - .8 grams per pound of your body weight. If you have been using the more hard core drugs like cocaine or meth, use the upper end. If you have been using caffeine or diet products use the lower end. But play with it to see what has the best effect. You are working to increase the level of large neutral amino acids, particularly one called tyrosine. Tyrosine is the precursor to dopamine just like tryptophan is the precursor to serotonin. Do not just go get some tyrosine [you see I know the addict's mind, LOL]. You want the " package " that comes with protein meals. 1 In the early weeks of your detox, you may want to add a protein snack mid morning and mid afternoon. A protein drink such as 's Shake will be a particular comfort. 2) Increase the size of your potato at night. Serotonin reduces the craving for stimulants. If you start having wild or hallucinogenic dreams, simply cut back some. Find the edge so you are getting restorative and restful dreaming and not getting uncomfortable dreams. 2 3) Take omega 3 fatty acids with a high concentration of EPA/DHA. These fatty acids are abundant in the membranes that are associated with synaptic function – the place where the neurotransmitters talk with one another. Increasing the omega 3s helps restore this function. 3 Make a concerted effort to stay away from foods that are high in omega 6 fatty acids – things like margarine and saturated fats [butter, cream, and meat fat] Eat foods high in omega 3 like cold water fishes such as salmon. In your early phase, you may find it helpful to supplement with omega 3 fish oils capsules like the ones we sell in the store. The recommended dosage is 2 caps per day for a 150 pound person. You may want to increase this proportionate to your size and the severity of the detox you are experiencing. If you are taking fish oil, it will tend to thin your blood. Sometimes this will make you more vulnerable to bruising. I have found that the antioxidant pycnogenol helps with this by strengthening capillary walls. I added this product to our store as a nice adjunct to the fish oil. I am including some citations here if you would like to read more about this. They are linked so you can read the actual abstract on line. If you click on the link that says related articles, you can follow the topic and gather more information. And of course, you may always email me at radiantkd@... Kathleen 1Fernstrom, JD, Can nutrient supplements modify brain function? Am J Clin Nutr. 2000 Jun;71(6 Suppl):1669S-75S. Review. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi? cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=10837313 & dopt=Abstract 2Yu DS, FL, DG, Lyness WH. Fluoxetine-induced attenuation of amphetamine self-administration in rats. Life Sci. 1986 Oct 13;39 (15):1383-8. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi? cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=3489876 & dopt=Abstract 3Zimmer L, Vancassel S, Cantagrel S, Breton P, Delamanche S, Guilloteau D, Durand G, Chalon S. The dopamine mesocorticolimbic pathway is affected by deficiency in n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids. Am J Clin Nutr. 2002 Apr;75(4):662-7. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi? cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=11916751 & dopt=Abstract Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 --- In , " cbrown2008 " <cbrown2008@...> wrote: > ...Dr. Kathleen DesMaisons has an interesting article ... Connie, Do you have any idea why she is so attached to soy protein? I'm reading YLD and in it she discusses both food allergies and hypothyroidism without one mention of it much less in relation to that poisonous shake mix she sells. Otherwise, I am grateful for her work, but sheesh. Since you are far more familiar with her program than I, I'm just wondering if you have any insight. B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 I quit my pot a day habit (I do still drink decaf organic swiss process) and I knew I could not go cold turkey so I slowly weaned off of it by adding more and more decaf until I was drinking only decaf. Allyn _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of emilylfinch99 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:21 PM Subject: coffee substitute Okay, I am trying for the probably millionth time to quit my two cups of coffee in the morning but am having a terrible time of it. For the last 3 weeks I have had almost none and I am slugging around the house until noon or so. I have absolutely no energy. I really want to quit but am hoping there is some sort of something I could have in the morning that might serve as a bit of a pick-me-up. I have thought about kombucha but want to wait before trying it as I am pregnant right now. I am convinced that the coffee is making my morning sickness way worse.....but I just HAVE to get something done around here. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 > Connie, > Do you have any idea why she is so attached to soy protein? > > I'm reading YLD and in it she discusses both food allergies and > hypothyroidism without one mention of it much less in relation to that > poisonous shake mix she sells. > > Otherwise, I am grateful for her work, but sheesh. > > Since you are far more familiar with her program than I, I'm just > wondering if you have any insight. > B. Not in love with soy protein all that much or any more. Since YLD was published she developed a non-soy shake mix (whey and egg) and wrote an article on soy highlighting the dangers and effects (warning, she criticizes a WAP article I think) http://www.radiantrecovery.com/soy4303html.htm I don't use soy or fractionated proteins myself. Connie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 --- In , " cbrown2008 " <cbrown2008@...> wrote: > Not in love with soy protein all that much or any more. Since YLD was > published she developed a non-soy shake mix (whey and egg) and wrote an > article on soy highlighting the dangers and effects (warning, she > criticizes a WAP article I think) > > http://www.radiantrecovery.com/soy4303html.htm > > I don't use soy or fractionated proteins myself. Connie, Thx for the article; it was interesting and filled my request exactly: to know her official word on the subject. I did notice the new shake mix for kids so I figured she was onto it. I'm pleased to read it was a WAPF article what put a fire under her. While critical of her article, I understand she's been heavily invested in soy and it will likely be some time before/if she ever withdraws. B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Omega 3 supplements gave me a boost when I was breastfeeding my kids. Also important to get enough to prevent post-partum depression, per Dr. Stoll (Omega 3 Connection). Two things that give me tons of energy (besides keeping my animal fat intake up - but I always craved butter and cream when pregnant) are umeboshi - a Japanese pickled plum, and kimchi - I've only had homemade, but the recipe in Wild Fermentation only takes a week. We like the kimchi on salad with toasted sesame oil. Eat it for dinner and half the time we're up 'till midnight. I haven't got the foggiest idea why the umeboshi and kimchi are so stimulating - it's almost like an adrenalin rush - my thoughts race and I seem to have non-stop energy, but no jitters or stress. Racing thoughts are more like, " Gee, I think I'll scrub down all the dirty baseboards " or creative ideas. By the way, try googling " Klenner 'c babies' " for a really interesting article on high doses of vitamin C during pregnancy for uncomplicated birth, no preenclampsia, and happy alert newborns. Hope this helps! - Renate > > Okay, I am trying for the probably millionth time to quit my two cups > of coffee in the morning but am having a terrible time of it. For the > last 3 weeks I have had almost none and I am slugging around the house > until noon or so. I have absolutely no energy. I really want to quit > but am hoping there is some sort of something I could have in the > morning that might serve as a bit of a pick-me-up. > I have thought about kombucha but want to wait before trying it as I > am pregnant right now. > I am convinced that the coffee is making my morning sickness way > worse.....but I just HAVE to get something done around here. > Any thoughts? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Ann Louise Gittleman, in her book The Fat Flush Plan (which really has a lot of good advice and info even if one's goal is not losing weight) recommends a product called Teeccino which is available at most hfs. It has chicory, barley, almonds, figs, dates, and roasted carob, plus a few other things depending on the flavour (I think there are four: we buy the mocha). It tends to be a bit sweet so I am currently mixing it half and half with organic coffee beans freshly ground at home, although my teenage son likes it straight. Coffee is a strain on the adrenals and liver, even organic, and the regular stuff is very heavily sprayed with all sorts of nasty stuff. But then you probably knew that already. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Canfield Be the master of your will, and the slave of your conscience. ~Yiddish proverb " The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple. " Psalm 19:7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 - >For the >last 3 weeks I have had almost none and I am slugging around the house >until noon or so. I have absolutely no energy. I really want to quit >but am hoping there is some sort of something I could have in the >morning that might serve as a bit of a pick-me-up. You could try acetyl l-carnitine. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Connie- >>Do not just go get some tyrosine [you see I know the >>addict's mind, LOL]. You want the " package " that comes with protein >>meals. 1 That sounds great in theory except that for people with disturbed neurotransmitter systems, taking in precursors purely in food form often has little or no effect, because the body uses the food for other purposes. >>2) Increase the size of your potato at night. This can certainly help some problems in the short term, but in the long run it's very harmful. >>Make a concerted effort to stay away from foods that are high in omega >>6 fatty acids  things like margarine and saturated fats [butter, >>cream, and meat fat] Eat foods high in omega 3 like cold water fishes >>such as salmon. This is just gibberish, a mixture of good and terrible advice. >>In your early phase, you may find it helpful to supplement with omega 3 >>fish oils capsules like the ones we sell in the store. The recommended >>dosage is 2 caps per day for a 150 pound person. You may want to >>increase this proportionate to your size and the severity of the detox >>you are experiencing. Again, this can benefit some people in the short term, but the long term consequences -- in this case of heightened peroxide levels -- are horrific. >>If you are taking fish oil, it will tend to thin your blood. Sometimes >>this will make you more vulnerable to bruising. I have found that the >>antioxidant pycnogenol helps with this by strengthening capillary >>walls. I added this product to our store as a nice adjunct to the fish >>oil. Not to mention vitamin K2... - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 > >>2) Increase the size of your potato at night. > > This can certainly help some problems in the > short term, but in the long run it's very harmful. > Hi ! " Very harmful " ? Will you spell out the gruesome details, please? B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 > That sounds great in theory except that for > people with disturbed neurotransmitter systems, > taking in precursors purely in food form often > has little or no effect, because the body uses the food for other purposes. Not just sounds great in theory, but also can work great in practice. Remember the context of the food plan - there is enough protein in particular to cover maintenance needs as well as the catching-up with imbalances. > This can certainly help some problems in the > short term, but in the long run it's very harmful. It's only meant to be short-term. People drop it when things are normal again - just like we wish we could do with antidepressants except since those are symptom palliatives only, you switch among the types forever it seems. thanks for your perspective as usual, . I agree that no approach is made to be followed forever - our bodies change - and no 2-page internet thing can be complete. We have to own our own nutritional path with continued study and practice. Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 Suzie, Funny you should post about Dandelion today as I was about to write about Dandy Blend - Dandelion coffee substitute. It is great tasting and tastes just like coffee to me. I went nuts for the first few days and drank lots of it but - as with so many yummy things in life, you can't over do it. Now if I drink too much, it is instant diarehha...boo hoo. Now I just limit it to one or two cups and that is fine. Anne Nacogdoches, TX The oldest town in Texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 I thought this was pretty interesting. It's how to decaffeinate your tea yourself. http://www.bigelowtea.com/about/bigteav.cfm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Thanks, ! That was fantastic information. So easy to do. Amazing! Helen Dilworth <rogerdil@...> wrote: I thought this was pretty interesting. It's how to decaffeinate your tea yourself. http://www.bigelowtea.com/about/bigteav.cfm Total Body Cleanse! Acid Reflux? Constipation? More Energy..Look younger..ImproveLungs/Brain www.holyteaclub.com/zhebee Make $s if desired! Helen, Ind Rep for HTC 604-420-1544 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I see on the Salicylate food guide that coffee is high in salilylates. Anyone come with a morning substiture? http://salicylatesensitivity.com/about/food-guide/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 While this doesn't answer your question, I would test your own reaction to coffee. Before I was desensitized coffee was one of the few things with salicylates that I had no problem with. Tea on the other hand was terrible. I wonder if energy supplements containing caffeine also contain salicylates. On Jan 30, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Lloyd wrote: I see on the Salicylate food guide that coffee is high in salilylates. Anyone come with a morning substiture? http://salicylatesensitivity.com/about/food-guide/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I couldn't give up the coffee, well I did for a little while before I got desensitized and it made a marked improvement in my symptoms. I know we've had this discussion on the form before regarding coffee - but since I've been desensitized I do drink about 1-2 cups of caffeinated coffee a day and it doesn't seem to bother me any longer. Bianca From: Lloyd <mynewmanager@...>Subject: Re: Coffee substitutesamters Date: Sunday, January 30, 2011, 8:08 AM I see on the Salicylate food guide that coffee is high in salilylates. Anyone come with a morning substiture? http://salicylatesensitivity.com/about/food-guide/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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