Guest guest Posted February 12, 1999 Report Share Posted February 12, 1999 I am wondering where you go to buy Stevia. I had never heard of it. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 1999 Report Share Posted February 12, 1999 I have been trying to find Stevia in the Toronto area since last summer. I just learned that it has not been allowed into Canada since then. Does anyone have any information? rheumatic Stevia >From: Jodi <jferri@...> > >I thought you all might be interested in some information on stevia, >which is a plant used as a sweetener. I found this very interesting. > > " Stevia is the name of a plant that has been used, in extract form, as a >safe natural sweetener by people in Paraguay and Brazil for hundreds of >years. Stevia is two hundred to three hundred times sweeter than >sugar. It has a slight licorice-like flavor that may take a little >getting used to for some people. Stevia is virtually calorie-free, and >does not trigger a rise in blood sugar level. It does not nourish >yeast, fungi, or other microorganisms in the gastrointestinal tract, but >it increases energy level and iproves digestion because of its ability >to stimulate the pancreas. " > > >Jodi > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from this mailing list, or to change your subscription >to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at and >select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 1999 Report Share Posted February 12, 1999 I can get it at my local healthfood store in Barrie, Ontario. They sell it in bulk in the herb section. Jodi Ken and wrote: > I have been trying to find Stevia in the Toronto area since last summer. I > just learned that it has not been allowed into Canada since then. Does > anyone have any information? > > > > rheumatic Stevia > > >From: Jodi <jferri@...> > > > >I thought you all might be interested in some information on stevia, > >which is a plant used as a sweetener. I found this very interesting. > > > > " Stevia is the name of a plant that has been used, in extract form, as a > >safe natural sweetener by people in Paraguay and Brazil for hundreds of > >years. Stevia is two hundred to three hundred times sweeter than > >sugar. It has a slight licorice-like flavor that may take a little > >getting used to for some people. Stevia is virtually calorie-free, and > >does not trigger a rise in blood sugar level. It does not nourish > >yeast, fungi, or other microorganisms in the gastrointestinal tract, but > >it increases energy level and iproves digestion because of its ability > >to stimulate the pancreas. " > > > > > >Jodi > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 1999 Report Share Posted April 20, 1999 >Does anyone know if stevia is just another form of sugar? The man who runs >the health food store where I get some of my supplements and who is usually >quite knowledgeable says he thinks it is? > > From " The Green Pharmacy " by A. Duke, PhD: on stevia Stevia rebudiana This sweet herb from Paraguay is another tasty, nonsugar sweetener, Simply buy a box of tea and use a pinch whenever you want to sweeten a beverage. You'll find that it is extremely sweet. He also recommends it to those concerned about sugar in re yeast infections, or licorice root (be careful with licorice if you have high blood pressure). If you want to see what compounds it has in it, Duke has a website at http://www.ars-grin.gov/~ngrlsb/ but the info is quite technical. I would trust Duke's info over your storekeeper's as he has 30 yrs experience as a botanist specializing in medicinal plants with the USDA. Sometimes the people at the health food stores can be quite knowledgeable but they do not always keep up with the hard science, relying instead on the info they get from the manufacturers, anecdotal info from customers and from magazines in the trade. Just my opinion. LizG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2003 Report Share Posted May 10, 2003 Hi. My name is and have recently been " diagnosed " with RA. I still don't know what to believe, however, I do know something about Stevia as I do use it in powdered form in Green Tea. I don't know much except it is a nice replacement for sugar and it can be purchase from Trader Joe's or I believe most health food stores. It can be purchased in small tablets and in a shaker of powder. The one I am using right now is called Sweet 'n Natural Super Stevia Extract (Dietary Supplement) by a company called Superior Source. I like it and had no idea of all the bad press and ridiculous FDA stuff. I hope to talk with you more about my problem when I am finally " forced " to take Methotrexate. I am really afraid of ending up in worse shape than I already am. Actually, both my feet, ankles, knees, fingers, hands, wrists, shoulders, and one elbow have been involved and only recently have my feet and knees seemed to improve. The worst of it is in my hands and shoulders at the moment. I am treating with Piroxicam (Feldene) 20 mg per day and my own treatment is every supplement and vitamin I can get my hands on. Any comments? Thank you, Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Hi Chris. Sorry about your diagnosis. Did a rheumatologist diagnose you? I can understand your concerns about taking MTX. Not treating the RA can also have many problems, so you have to carefully weigh your options. I also take supplements, but my main goal is to get as much vitamins and minerals from food that I can. I hope you have a healthy diet in addition to taking the supplements. I've had pretty good luck with a diet with no sugar, dairy, or meats, with plenty of fresh fruits and veggies. I've managed to decrease the meds I take by staying on this diet. a > Hi. My name is and have recently been " diagnosed " with RA. I still > don't know what to believe, however, I do know something about Stevia as I do > use it in powdered form in Green Tea. I don't know much except it is a nice > replacement for sugar and it can be purchase from Trader Joe's or I believe > most health food stores. It can be purchased in small tablets and in a > shaker of powder. The one I am using right now is called Sweet 'n Natural > Super Stevia Extract (Dietary Supplement) by a company called Superior > Source. I like it and had no idea of all the bad press and ridiculous FDA > stuff. > > I hope to talk with you more about my problem when I am finally " forced " to > take Methotrexate. I am really afraid of ending up in worse shape than I > already am. Actually, both my feet, ankles, knees, fingers, hands, wrists, > shoulders, and one elbow have been involved and only recently have my feet > and knees seemed to improve. The worst of it is in my hands and shoulders at > the moment. I am treating with Piroxicam (Feldene) 20 mg per day and my own > treatment is every supplement and vitamin I can get my hands on. > > Any comments? Thank you, Chris. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Hi and Welcome to our Group. You will find a lot of information through our members and from our wonderful moderators, and a. The greatest power of this group is in the caring and sharing that you will see daily. Do you have a rheumatologist? Taking MTX or another DMARD is a step that you need to take to prevent further damage to your joints. We have quite a few members that are using the injectable MTX due to lesser side effects. Other members are being treated with biologics (Remicade, Embrel, etc.) I look forward to getting to know you and all of our other new members. So...jump right in a let us hear from you. Iris --- madelonchristine@... wrote: > Hi. My name is and have recently been " diagnosed " with RA. I still > don't know what to believe, however, I do know something about Stevia as I do > use it in powdered form in Green Tea. I don't know much except it is a nice > replacement for sugar and it can be purchase from Trader Joe's or I believe > most health food stores. It can be purchased in small tablets and in a > shaker of powder. The one I am using right now is called Sweet 'n Natural > Super Stevia Extract (Dietary Supplement) by a company called Superior > Source. I like it and had no idea of all the bad press and ridiculous FDA > stuff. > > I hope to talk with you more about my problem when I am finally " forced " to > take Methotrexate. I am really afraid of ending up in worse shape than I > already am. Actually, both my feet, ankles, knees, fingers, hands, wrists, > shoulders, and one elbow have been involved and only recently have my feet > and knees seemed to improve. The worst of it is in my hands and shoulders at > the moment. I am treating with Piroxicam (Feldene) 20 mg per day and my own > treatment is every supplement and vitamin I can get my hands on. > > Any comments? Thank you, Chris. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 > > Just thought I'd let you know that www.steviacanada.com has > a number of reasonably priced stevia products. I bought 2x60 > ml droppers of the liquid which contains 80% rebaudisides (?) > for $9.99US each. POstage for outside of Canada or US (I live > in UK) is $9 when spending up to $20. Each bottle contains > 1000+ drops of stevia. Thank you Jo! I checked on that site and they _are_ selling stevia with the highest percentage of rebaudioside I ever seen. This should result in a much better flavor. Also, I think that their prices for inulin (F.O.S.) are the best I've seen, though I haven't checked on the prices in the stores for quite a while now. I'm going to order some of both and try them out. > I called them to discuss the products I was interested in and > they were very helpful The Canadians are wonderful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Judith- >What are the precautions about stevia? I've not been aware of any. It's a glycoside related to digitalis and very likely has unknown physiological effects. Here's one possible example: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\ s=11504809 & dopt=Abstract >J Pharmacol Exp Ther. 2001 Sep;298(3):1120-7. Related Articles, >Links > >Effect of steviol on para-aminohippurate transport by isolated perfused >rabbit renal proximal tubule. > >Chatsudthipong V, Jutabha P. > >Department of Physiology, Faculty of Science, Mahidol University, Bangkok, >Thailand. scvcs@... > >An inhibitory effect of steviol, metabolite of the natural sweetener >stevioside, on transepithelial transport of p-aminohippurate (J(PAH)) was >observed in isolated S(2) segments of rabbit renal proximal tubules using >in vitro microperfusion. Addition of steviol (0.01--0.25 mM) to the >bathing medium significantly depressed J(PAH) (approximately 50--90%). >This inhibitory effect was dose-dependent and was maximum at a >concentration of 0.05 mM. To further examine this effect, a steviol >concentration (0.01 mM) that produced approximately 50% inhibition of >J(PAH), was chosen. Addition of 0.01 mM steviol to the bathing medium >significantly depressed J(PAH) by about 50 to 60%. Steviol at the same >concentration (0.01 mM), when present in the tubule lumen, had no >significant effect on J(PAH). Addition of 0.01 mM steviol to lumen and >bath simultaneously, produced a slightly greater inhibitory effect >compared with addition to bath alone (60 versus 70%). A higher >concentration of steviol, 0.05 mM (which maximally inhibited J(PAH) when >on the basolateral side), was required on the luminal side than on the >basolateral side before an inhibitory effect was observed. To further >examine the mechanism by which steviol inhibited J(PAH), its effect on >Na(+)-K(+) ATPase activity and ATP content was determined. Steviol at >concentrations of 0.01 and 0.05 mM had no effect on Na(+)-K(+) ATPase >activity or cell ATP content. Kinetic analyses indicated that steviol can >competitively inhibit PAH transport at the basolateral membrane. The >present study clearly showed that steviol can have a direct inhibitory >effect on renal tubular transport by competitive binding with organic >anion transporter. > >PMID: 11504809 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 , Thank you. It is my understanding that stevia has been used for centuries. Have any adverse effects been observed in the people who use it regularly? Have any other studies been done, or is this the only one. Rabbit tissue in a test tube is very likely to get a different response than in a live human. Who paid for the study? I'm not questioning you. I appreciate the information. I'm just asking questions. Enjoy! ;-) Judith Alta -----Original Message----- Judith- >What are the precautions about stevia? I've not been aware of any. It's a glycoside related to digitalis and very likely has unknown physiological effects. Here's one possible example: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list _uids=11504809 & dopt=Abstract >J Pharmacol Exp Ther. 2001 Sep;298(3):1120-7. Related Articles, >Links > >Effect of steviol on para-aminohippurate transport by isolated perfused >rabbit renal proximal tubule. > >Chatsudthipong V, Jutabha P. > >Department of Physiology, Faculty of Science, Mahidol University, Bangkok, >Thailand. scvcs@... > >An inhibitory effect of steviol, metabolite of the natural sweetener >stevioside, on transepithelial transport of p-aminohippurate (J(PAH)) was >observed in isolated S(2) segments of rabbit renal proximal tubules using >in vitro microperfusion. Addition of steviol (0.01--0.25 mM) to the >bathing medium significantly depressed J(PAH) (approximately 50--90%). >This inhibitory effect was dose-dependent and was maximum at a >concentration of 0.05 mM. To further examine this effect, a steviol >concentration (0.01 mM) that produced approximately 50% inhibition of >J(PAH), was chosen. Addition of 0.01 mM steviol to the bathing medium >significantly depressed J(PAH) by about 50 to 60%. Steviol at the same >concentration (0.01 mM), when present in the tubule lumen, had no >significant effect on J(PAH). Addition of 0.01 mM steviol to lumen and >bath simultaneously, produced a slightly greater inhibitory effect >compared with addition to bath alone (60 versus 70%). A higher >concentration of steviol, 0.05 mM (which maximally inhibited J(PAH) when >on the basolateral side), was required on the luminal side than on the >basolateral side before an inhibitory effect was observed. To further >examine the mechanism by which steviol inhibited J(PAH), its effect on >Na(+)-K(+) ATPase activity and ATP content was determined. Steviol at >concentrations of 0.01 and 0.05 mM had no effect on Na(+)-K(+) ATPase >activity or cell ATP content. Kinetic analyses indicated that steviol can >competitively inhibit PAH transport at the basolateral membrane. The >present study clearly showed that steviol can have a direct inhibitory >effect on renal tubular transport by competitive binding with organic >anion transporter. > >PMID: 11504809 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 --- In , Idol <Idol@c...> wrote: > Judith- > > >What are the precautions about stevia? I've not been aware of any. > > It's a glycoside related to digitalis and very likely has unknown > physiological effects. > > Here's one possible example: > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi? > cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=11504809 & dopt=Abstract Those concerns are about steviol. Here's an excerpt from " The Stevia Story - A Tale of Incredible Sweetness & Intrigue " . What about steviol? Opponents of stevia, clutching for anything negative they might drum up to alarm consumers, occasionally mention steviol. Under certain laboratory conditions steviol can be created as a breakdown product from stevioside. It does not appear that the human body has this ability to metabolize steviol from stevioside. If we could metabolize stevioside into steviol, the question then would be, " Is steviol a mutagen? " In the 1970s, the Japanese conducted a considerable amount of research to determine if stevia consumption produced any mutagenic or carcinogenic effects. The research showed no effects of that nature, leading the Japanese Ministry of Health and Welfare in 1977 to conclude that there was no cause for concern on this score. There are, however, a few studies suggesting that steviol could be a mutagen, but only under certain conditions. Some mutagens are carcinogens, some are not. The interesting thing about steviol is that there is not a shred of evidence to indicate it ever has been or even can be produced from stevia in a human being. Dr. A. Kinghorn, professor of Pharmacognosy at the University of Illinois and one of the leading experts on stevia, feels it would be nice to resolve the steviol issue once and for all; however, he doesn't see it as a significant point. " I don't think it's that big a question mark because of the Japanese experience. They've been taking it for 20 years nowand they've had multigenerations of humans using it. (To produce steviol) requires metabolic activation which may or may not happen, " he points out. Not only is this all " very conjectural, " according to Dr. Kinghom, but whether steviol is actually a mutagen or not is also still open to question. One lab, Kinghorn notes, found it to be " a very, very weak mutagen, " while another found it not to be mutagenic at all. " We do have the evidence from the Japanese that stevioside is not carcinogenic. It hasn't been resolved whether steviol is produced in animals, let alone in humans. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 As I suspected. No real proof of harm. The sweetener companies will go to any length to protect their bottom lines. Judith Alta -----Original Message----- --- In , Idol <Idol@c...> wrote: > Judith- > > >What are the precautions about stevia? I've not been aware of any. > > It's a glycoside related to digitalis and very likely has unknown > physiological effects. > > Here's one possible example: > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi? > cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=11504809 & dopt=Abstract Those concerns are about steviol. Here's an excerpt from " The Stevia Story - A Tale of Incredible Sweetness & Intrigue " . What about steviol? Opponents of stevia, clutching for anything negative they might drum up to alarm consumers, occasionally mention steviol. Under certain laboratory conditions steviol can be created as a breakdown product from stevioside. It does not appear that the human body has this ability to metabolize steviol from stevioside. If we could metabolize stevioside into steviol, the question then would be, " Is steviol a mutagen? " In the 1970s, the Japanese conducted a considerable amount of research to determine if stevia consumption produced any mutagenic or carcinogenic effects. The research showed no effects of that nature, leading the Japanese Ministry of Health and Welfare in 1977 to conclude that there was no cause for concern on this score. There are, however, a few studies suggesting that steviol could be a mutagen, but only under certain conditions. Some mutagens are carcinogens, some are not. The interesting thing about steviol is that there is not a shred of evidence to indicate it ever has been or even can be produced from stevia in a human being. Dr. A. Kinghorn, professor of Pharmacognosy at the University of Illinois and one of the leading experts on stevia, feels it would be nice to resolve the steviol issue once and for all; however, he doesn't see it as a significant point. " I don't think it's that big a question mark because of the Japanese experience. They've been taking it for 20 years nowand they've had multigenerations of humans using it. (To produce steviol) requires metabolic activation which may or may not happen, " he points out. Not only is this all " very conjectural, " according to Dr. Kinghom, but whether steviol is actually a mutagen or not is also still open to question. One lab, Kinghorn notes, found it to be " a very, very weak mutagen, " while another found it not to be mutagenic at all. " We do have the evidence from the Japanese that stevioside is not carcinogenic. It hasn't been resolved whether steviol is produced in animals, let alone in humans. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 - >>Under >>certain laboratory conditions steviol can be created as a breakdown >>product from stevioside. That's rather misleading. Note the middle portion of this abstract, which I broke out as a separate paragraph. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\ s=14558786 & dopt=Abstract >Stevia rebaudiana standardized extracts (SSEs) are used as natural >sweeteners or dietary supplements in different countries for their content >of stevioside or rebaudioside A. These compounds possess up to 250 times >the sweetness intensity of sucrose, and they are noncaloric and >noncariogenic sweeteners. The aim of this study was to investigate the in >vitro transformation of stevioside and rebaudioside A after incubation >with human microflora, the influence of these sweeteners on human >microbial fecal community and which specific groups metabolize >preferentially stevioside and rebaudioside A. The experiments were carried >out under strict anaerobic conditions in batch cultures inoculated with >mixed fecal bacteria from volunteers. The hydrolysis was monitored by HPLC >coupled to photodiode array and mass spectrometric detectors. > >Isolated bacterial strains from fecal materials incubated in selective >broths were added to stevioside and rebaudioside A. These sweeteners were >completely hydrolyzed to their aglycon steviol in 10 and 24 h, respectively. > >Interestingly, the human intestinal microflora was not able to degrade >steviol. Furthermore, stevioside and rebaudioside A did not significantly >influence the composition of fecal cultures; among the selected intestinal >groups, bacteroides were the most efficient in hydrolyzing Stevia >sweeteners to steviol. I think it's pretty widely acknowledged that stevia is in fact broken down to steviol in the human gut. Furthermore, note this sentence from the earlier abstract I posted: >Kinetic analyses indicated that steviol can competitively inhibit PAH >transport at the basolateral membrane. The present study clearly showed >that steviol can have a direct inhibitory effect on renal tubular >transport by competitive binding with organic anion transporter. So steviol is not without its physiological effects. (Bear in mind I don't have some set list of anti-stevia literature; I just did a quick PubMed search.) >>The interesting thing about steviol >>is that there is not a shred of evidence to indicate it ever has >>been or even can be produced from stevia in a human being. OK, that's just flat-out untrue. I think the above full abstract pretty clearly establishes that human gut organisms break stevia down into steviol, though since the study wasn't in vivo, I grant you that there's a tiny bit of room for uncertainty as to whether said gut organisms would do so in actual human guts. >> " I don't >>think it's that big a question mark because of the Japanese >>experience. They've been taking it for 20 years nowand they've >>had multigenerations of humans using it. This sort of argument is common, but really, it's quite poor. Disease, both communicable and degenerative, is widespread among virtually all populations on earth today, including the Japanese, so by pointing to some group which uses some particular product and has for a few years, I could just as justifiably (or rather, just as unjustifiably) say, " Look, obviously stevia has made all those people horribly sick! " . I'm not saying stevia is definitely bad news. In fact, of all the noncaloric sweeteners out there, I'd guess it's second only to saccharine in the likelihood it's reasonably safe, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't approach it with open eyes and full knowledge of what facts there are. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 >How is stevia in baking? I've tried it in tea and found it left an > > unpleasant aftertaste. If you found a bitter aftertaste in the tea, it could be one of 3 things. One, a bad brand. Not all stevias are equal. I use nu naturals or Now brand and I love them both. Second, you may be using too much. Third, you may be genetically predisposed to tasting the bitter. My daughter did an experiment in her science class. They were told that it's genetic. They were given test strips to lick. She brought some home for me and my wife to try. They could both taste the bitter on the strips and they both hate stevia. I couldn't taste the bitter and I love stevia. I can sweeten tea with it and not tell the difference between it and sugar. >Yes, some brands are better than others. In general, the sweetness is very >strong and may have a bitter aftertaste if you use too much. Make sure it is >white stevia, not the greenish brown kind, that is yucky. There is a brand >called " Stevia Plus " at the health food store, comes in little packets. The > " plus " is fiber. This kind is great tasting. In baking it is ok, except >you have >to fiddle with the recipe a bit if you are subsituting for sugar, like maybe >use less liquid. There is a cookbook around for stevia. Maybe a search on >Amazon would find it. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 The stevia I bought was the greenish/brown bought bulk at Whole Foods. It's the only stevia I've ever tried and I have no idea what the quality was. I'll see if they have anything else next time I go. -----Original Message----- From: Long [mailto:longc@...] > it could be one of 3 things. One, a bad brand. Not all stevias are equal. I use nu naturals or Now brand and I love them both. Second, you may be using too much. Third, you may be genetically predisposed to tasting the bitter <http://us.adserver./l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=group s/S=:HM/A=2128215/rand=430193220> . * . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 and how much stevia, what extract, inquiring minds have learned to need ALL the details before accepting conclusions! Take care, Alice - violist & HSing mom to Alice (DS) born Thanksgiving Day 1995 :-) Hopewell Junction, NY http://users.bestweb.net/~castella castella@... Stevia , The study said stevia " extract " , correct? What about whole herb stevia? Could just be that when the whole herb is present, there is no issue. Personally, I don't use the stuff frequently enough to worry too much about it. Just a thought, ~JK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 JK- >The study said stevia " extract " , correct? What about >whole herb stevia? Could just be that when the whole >herb is present, there is no issue. Unfortunately, the problem will be present with the whole herb, since components of the herb are responsible for the testosterone and fertility lowering effects. While it's likely that the effect is more pronounced with an extract or concentrate, that's by no means certain. It depends on the solubility profiles of the active compound or compounds and the methods used to prepare the extract, so it's not completely impossible that the whole herb could have a _more_ pronounced effect. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Hi , Did you have any luck finding the study on infertility? Any idea on who the studies were commissioned by? I know when stevia was first being used the artificial sweetener producers were putting a lot of pressure on the FDA about its safety. Just wondering if that may have anything to do with it? I thought this was an interesting link to the stevia experiment we may be talking about http://www.stevia.net/safety.htm#Contraceptive I've also heard about the study using the whole plant, rather than just the leaves as is done with the sweetener. Have a good day. Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 I use the leaves off the plants growing in my backyard. It grows all summer here in the Pacific Northwest. I just can't get it to winter over. Apparently it's not the temperature, but the lack of sunlight. Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 I wonder if stevia would work here in CO. Next season we are going to try mint, and stevia would be a great companion. I'll have to check it out. Peace, love, laughter OK, so what's the speed of dark?SV <shavig@...> wrote: I use the leaves off the plants growing in my backyard. It grows all summer here in the Pacific Northwest. I just can't get it to winter over. Apparently it's not the temperature, but the lack of sunlight. Shari . __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 I do the same thing Shari - I live in Western NY and it grows all summer here too. But same thing with me, I have trouble keeping it alive in the house in the winter. I have a 9' sliding glass door that I put it right next to, and it's still not happy! I have found that it is a very difficult plant to find at nurseries. The only place I've found a stevia plant within about 50 miles of me is at an herb nursery. Most other nurseries around here have some herbs, but never stevia. Carol http://www.bluegreensolutions.com -- In health , " SV " <shavig@...> wrote: > > I use the leaves off the plants growing in my backyard. It grows all summer here in the Pacific Northwest. I just can't get it to winter over. Apparently it's not the temperature, but the lack of sunlight. > > Shari > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 I have one lady at our farmer's market who grows a few. She's mainly a lavendar grower, but I think she actually grew some this year just for me! She starts from seeds, but won't tell me her supplier. I've not seen it in seed form, yet. We now have a greenhouse so I'm excited to see if I can winter one over in there or start some in there. Found this with Google: http://seedrack.com/09.html Just scroll down past titty fruit, honest Guido that's what they call it! Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 use very little--a sprinkle or drop at a time, then taste. i've found that stevia (i use the dark liquid concentrate by sweetleaf and the whole dried herb since i don't like the refined stuff) to be limited to which foods/drinks it works well with. for the liquid stevia, it tastes best in things that have a fat content (creamed coffee, coconut milk smoothies, yogurt, kefir, cheese cake, etc.). sometimes mixing half and half with another sweetener can round out the flavor. the leaf is nice as a tea or mixed with other teas. i've never had much success with baking with it as a sole sweetener. sabine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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