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In a message dated 1/15/2005 10:35:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,

sharonferris@... writes:

You can still buy it in the health food stores around here and brew it up.

Does it say what the ingredients are?

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I don't know. I will have to ask my ex.

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In a message dated 1/15/2005 10:35:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,

sharonferris@... writes:

You can still buy it in the health food stores around here and brew it up.

Does it say what the ingredients are?

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That's the one. :o)

Kathy R.

> Did you know that essiac is a natural tonic type potion that a woman

from Ontario, the Muskoka area, received from the Native Indians in

the area back in the 40's. At the time it was thought to be a cure

for cancer. There was a lot of testing done of it by the medical

profession and it looked like it was of value. However, all of the

testing stopped abruptly for some reason and she and it were declared

fakes (Quelle Surprise!!!!!).

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> You can still buy it in the health food stores around here and brew

it up. My ex took it when he was fighting Melanoma a couple of years

ago and he still takes it.

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> The lady's name was Caisse and she made the name of the potion her

name spelled backwards.

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> I don't know if it is the same as the tea you are speaking of but

that is the story I have heard around here for years.

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> Regards,

> Sharon (Ontario) Canada

> Re: Hello From Another Newbie

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> > At the clinic we put people with FM immediately on a tea called

> essiac. The four key ingredients - burdock, slippery elm, sheep's

> sorrel, and rhubarb - are all avoids on the type " O " diet.

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  • 2 weeks later...

HIya all

I've been breweing Native American herb tea (Essiac) for Charlie since he

came out of the hospital after about two years in 1992. I used it to cleanse

and

balance his body and provide support to the endocrine system and the liver.

He got it three times a day for about two years, then slowly reduced it's use

over the next two years.

THen, for years we used it as a Spring and Fall tonic, for health maintenance.

I just happen to have a kettle of it brewing right now. It is part of what I

give Charlie for the bladder cancer he is now dealing with, I make about a

gallon at a time.

I get the herbs from AmeriHerb in Ames IA. Very good quality, reliable

source (been dealing with them for over ten years) reasonable price, but NO

website, I even offered to do a simple site for them about three years ago.

They now offer an EZZIAC blend in two sizes, reasonably priced.

Call for free Wholesale catalog, (800) 267-6141 or write: Ameriherb, PO Box

1968, Ames, IA 50010-1968. FAX 515 232 8615

Hope this helps

mjh

n a message dated 1/28/2005 4:50:05 AM Eastern Standard Time,

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Message: 9

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:20:18 -0000

From: " amkurious " <amkurious@...>

Subject: Re: Rating Dietary Supplements

Essiac.

No it's not a Greek remedy! It was an Ojibwa Indian combination of

herbs that was passed onto a Canadian nurse (her last name is

Caisse -Essiac spelled backwards)

It is basically now sold as 4 herbs:

Sheep Sorrel

Burdock Root

Slippery Elm

Turkish Rhubarb Root

Usually made into a tea. There are many forms sold now from what I

gather and who knows which is the closest to the original formula.

I came upon this web site that I read for the first time.

www.sumeria.net/health/essiac3.html ...interesting read especially

for anyone that has cancer.

mjh

http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

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THANK YOU MJH FOR THE INFO,I'M A TEA DRINKER AND AN HERB PERSON.I USE HERBS AND

TEA TO HELP FLUSH OUT ANYTHING BAD INSIDE OF MYSELF.MAY GOD PLACE HIS HEALING

HAND UPON CHARLIE AND HEAL HIM TAKE CARE AND GOD BLESS,MARK HOGUE

foxhillers@... wrote:HIya all

I've been breweing Native American herb tea (Essiac) for Charlie since he

came out of the hospital after about two years in 1992. I used it to cleanse

and

balance his body and provide support to the endocrine system and the liver.

He got it three times a day for about two years, then slowly reduced it's use

over the next two years.

THen, for years we used it as a Spring and Fall tonic, for health maintenance.

I just happen to have a kettle of it brewing right now. It is part of what I

give Charlie for the bladder cancer he is now dealing with, I make about a

gallon at a time.

I get the herbs from AmeriHerb in Ames IA. Very good quality, reliable

source (been dealing with them for over ten years) reasonable price, but NO

website, I even offered to do a simple site for them about three years ago.

They now offer an EZZIAC blend in two sizes, reasonably priced.

Call for free Wholesale catalog, (800) 267-6141 or write: Ameriherb, PO Box

1968, Ames, IA 50010-1968. FAX 515 232 8615

Hope this helps

mjh

n a message dated 1/28/2005 4:50:05 AM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

Message: 9

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:20:18 -0000

From: " amkurious " <amkurious@...>

Subject: Re: Rating Dietary Supplements

Essiac.

No it's not a Greek remedy! It was an Ojibwa Indian combination of

herbs that was passed onto a Canadian nurse (her last name is

Caisse -Essiac spelled backwards)

It is basically now sold as 4 herbs:

Sheep Sorrel

Burdock Root

Slippery Elm

Turkish Rhubarb Root

Usually made into a tea. There are many forms sold now from what I

gather and who knows which is the closest to the original formula.

I came upon this web site that I read for the first time.

www.sumeria.net/health/essiac3.html ...interesting read especially

for anyone that has cancer.

mjh

http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

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MJH,

I just called to request a catalog! Thanks!

Grace

foxhillers@... wrote:

HIya all

I've been breweing Native American herb tea (Essiac) for Charlie since he

came out of the hospital after about two years in 1992. I used it to cleanse

and

balance his body and provide support to the endocrine system and the liver.

He got it three times a day for about two years, then slowly reduced it's use

over the next two years.

THen, for years we used it as a Spring and Fall tonic, for health maintenance.

I just happen to have a kettle of it brewing right now. It is part of what I

give Charlie for the bladder cancer he is now dealing with, I make about a

gallon at a time.

I get the herbs from AmeriHerb in Ames IA. Very good quality, reliable

source (been dealing with them for over ten years) reasonable price, but NO

website, I even offered to do a simple site for them about three years ago.

They now offer an EZZIAC blend in two sizes, reasonably priced.

Call for free Wholesale catalog, (800) 267-6141 or write: Ameriherb, PO Box

1968, Ames, IA 50010-1968. FAX 515 232 8615

Hope this helps

mjh

n a message dated 1/28/2005 4:50:05 AM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

Message: 9

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:20:18 -0000

From: " amkurious " <amkurious@...>

Subject: Re: Rating Dietary Supplements

Essiac.

No it's not a Greek remedy! It was an Ojibwa Indian combination of

herbs that was passed onto a Canadian nurse (her last name is

Caisse -Essiac spelled backwards)

It is basically now sold as 4 herbs:

Sheep Sorrel

Burdock Root

Slippery Elm

Turkish Rhubarb Root

Usually made into a tea. There are many forms sold now from what I

gather and who knows which is the closest to the original formula.

I came upon this web site that I read for the first time.

www.sumeria.net/health/essiac3.html ...interesting read especially

for anyone that has cancer.

mjh

http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

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Hello,

I have been taking Essiac for about one and a half month.

I have 2 questions, please:

1. I don't feel anything at all. Is it normal, or should I feel any effect?

I take it because I have a large ovarian cyst.

2. I buy the liquid form and I notice that it has a slight acid flavor, such

as if it would contain a little bit of lemon. Is it the normal taste, or is

there anything wrong?

Thanks for any info.

Rena

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Rena, I am by no means an expert on Essiac, but do have experience with it. Generally, I have found that those taking it do not feel any 'significant" effects. As with most natural methods, the effect takes time to manifest. As for the flavour of what you are taking, is it store-bought/pre-prepared? Have you read the label, looked into the company and the procedures for processing it? I have made it myself, for myself and others, never used "store bought", so don't know of any taste difference in store bought. I've not had an "adic/lemon" taste, but a very bitter taste at times. Not much help, sorry. Just wanted to add my dos pesos. paz, amor, risa Blua Birdo <bluabirdo@...> wrote: Hello,I have been taking Essiac for about one and a half month.I have 2 questions, please:1. I don't feel anything at all. Is it normal, or should I feel any effect? I take it because I have a large ovarian cyst.2. I buy the liquid form and I notice that it has a slight acid flavor, such as if it would contain a little bit of lemon. Is it the normal taste, or is there anything wrong?Thanks for any info.Rena .

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I buy it in Whole Foods market and supposedly all is fine.

I know that natural remedies work slowly and silently, but in innumerable occasions I feel the result soon and even immediately.

Rena

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Rena,

I am by no means an expert on Essiac, but do have experience with it.

Generally, I have found that those taking it do not feel any 'significant" effects. As with most natural methods, the effect takes time to manifest.

As for the flavour of what you are taking, is it store-bought/pre-prepared? Have you read the label, looked into the company and the procedures for processing it?

I have made it myself, for myself and others, never used "store bought", so don't know of any taste difference in store bought. I've not had an "adic/lemon" taste, but a very bitter taste at times.

Not much help, sorry. Just wanted to add my dos pesos.

paz, amor, risa

Blua Birdo <bluabirdohotmail> wrote:

Hello,I have been taking Essiac for about one and a half month.I have 2 questions, please:1. I don't feel anything at all. Is it normal, or should I feel any effect? I take it because I have a large ovarian cyst.2. I buy the liquid form and I notice that it has a slight acid flavor, such as if it would contain a little bit of lemon. Is it the normal taste, or is there anything wrong?Thanks for any info.Rena

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But how long have you had this??? SuziBlua Birdo <bluabirdo@...> wrote: I buy it in Whole Foods market and supposedly all is fine. I know that natural remedies work slowly and silently, but in innumerable occasions I feel the result soon and even immediately. Rena

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There is much discussion on this topic.. I believe when something works as is... why mess with it.. maybe add another... but then each time you add another herb (in my opinion) it lessens the effects of the others... If one herb is doing 100%..........2 are at 50%, 4 at 25% etc... SuziBlua Birdo <bluabirdo@...> wrote: The one I buy has 8 herbs. I thought it was going to be stronger than the original with 4 herbs. Rena

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I meant the problem... and what is a daily dosage of the bottle? SuziBlua Birdo <bluabirdo@...> wrote: I take one bottle per week. When I open I put it in the refrigerator. Rena

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I have had the ovarian cyst for quite some time, but it was small and I expected to shrink. On the contrary it began growing. Last year after I did the ultrasound was when it grew more.

The bottle says 4 ounces mixed with hot water twice a day.

Rena

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I meant the problem... and what is a daily dosage of the bottle?

SuziBlua Birdo <bluabirdohotmail> wrote:

I take one bottle per week. When I open I put it in the refrigerator.

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ok, when I was making my own, (4herbs) I advised many to take it 3 times a day until they started seeing improvement..... You might try that. Remember you've had this for quite some time now... the herbs can't get it gone overnite... Some people have tried some mistletoe for cysts.. I caution on this as it is one of those herbs you have to be very careful with. SuziBlua Birdo <bluabirdo@...> wrote: I have had the ovarian cyst for quite some time, but it was small and I expected to shrink. On the contrary it began growing. Last year after I did the ultrasound was when it grew more. The bottle says 4 ounces mixed with hot water twice a

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Yes, I understand that I can't expect an overnight solution, but I don't see any change in any thing, such as more elimination, or something, whatever it may be.

I find this formula too expensive and this is not the only thing I'm taking.

Thanks for your suggestion,

Rena

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ok, when I was making my own, (4herbs) I advised many to take it 3 times a day until they started seeing improvement.....

You might try that. Remember you've had this for quite some time now... the herbs can't get it gone overnite... Some people have tried some mistletoe for cysts.. I caution on this as it is one of those herbs you have to be very careful with.

SuziBlua Birdo <bluabirdohotmail> wrote:

I have had the ovarian cyst for quite some time, but it was small and I expected to shrink. On the contrary it began growing. Last year after I did the ultrasound was when it grew more.

The bottle says 4 ounces mixed with hot water twice a day.

Rena

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Maybe you are one of these people that don't respond to essiac.... or maybe you need only the 4 herbs.. however, I Came across this.. A tincture, pills or tea of raspberry and skullcap to help her anxiety.) The cysts disappeared in only a few weeks. Ovarian Cyst Tincture 1 teaspoon each tinctures of vitex berries, red motherwort leaves ½ teaspoon each tinctures of ginger rhizome Combine ingredients. Take half a dropperful 2 or 3 times a day. SuziBlua Birdo <bluabirdo@...> wrote: Yes, I understand that I can't expect an overnight solution, but I don't see any change in any thing, such as more elimination, or something, whatever it may be. I find this formula too expensive and this is not the only thing I'm taking. Thanks for your suggestion, Rena

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Definitively I will try this.

Thank you very much,

Rena

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Maybe you are one of these people that don't respond to essiac.... or maybe you need only the 4 herbs.. however, I Came across this..

A tincture, pills or tea of raspberry and skullcap to help her anxiety.) The cysts disappeared in only a few weeks. Ovarian Cyst Tincture 1 teaspoon each tinctures of vitex berries, red motherwort leaves ½ teaspoon each tinctures of ginger rhizome Combine ingredients. Take half a dropperful 2 or 3 times a day.

SuziBlua Birdo <bluabirdohotmail> wrote:

Yes, I understand that I can't expect an overnight solution, but I don't see any change in any thing, such as more elimination, or something, whatever it may be.

I find this formula too expensive and this is not the only thing I'm taking.

Thanks for your suggestion,

Rena

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Hi again, Kathy,

 

My son mentioned Essiac Herbs for cancer to me (he wanted me to take this since

I am at higher risk for cancer, not because I have been dxed with it).  I am

sorry to hear you had breast cancer!  Glad to hear you are in recovery now,

tho.  Is Essiac the herbal treatment you are on? 

 

I wish you the best; you've had alot to deal with!

Diane

 

 

 

From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...>

Subject: Re: Living in a Mobile Home?

Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:02 PM

Hi Diane,

I've never been dianosed with MCS, though I tend to be moderately

sensitive to just about everything. I have PTSD/DID, probably a

milder form of ES and am recovering from breast cancer that was

diagnosed last Sept. I did not do any chemo or radiation. A minor

surgery and am using alternative herbs and supplements.

So people ground their trailers? I tried grounding a silver mesh

fabric hung over my window to shield the cell tower and that just

made things worse. Perhaps I did not do everything correcly.

Are their more chemicals and outgassing in a trailer than a house?

Kathy

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> Subject: Living in a Mobile Home?

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Hi Diane,

I have heard of the Essiac tea but it is not one of the many things I

am using. I do drink Pau'd Arco tea.

I HAVE had a lot to deal with. The traditional treatment Doctors use

with cancer scare me far more than cancer itself though so steering

clear of them and their advise helps me immensely. The tumour was

small, just 7mm so I caught it early.

I did find a holistic Doctor who ran a nutrient profile on me and

found 4 things which were significantly low, three of which

correspond with cancer. Glutithione, Vitamin D and Selenium, also I

was low in B12. So I am focusing on getting these levels up, plus

taking a number of things, including Bromilin, Curcumin, Calcium d

Glucarate and I threw out the *# " @@*%* number 7 plastic bottles I

used for decades to hold reverse osmosis water from the natural food

store. They were advertised as safe and non-leaching but the lasted

research shows they leach bisphenol-A which is a potent carcinagen. I

would love to sue!!! But even thinking about that causes stress so I

of course won't unless I can get in on a class action suit. That and

the cell phone towers infuriate me if I think about it. Best to shrug

my shoulders and be happy that I am at least informed.

I also drink a lot of carrot juice and some beet, celery and lemon

juice all fresh squeezed and I do other things as well. Thanks for

your well wishes.

Kathy

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Hi Diane,

I'm confident the energy exercises you gave a link for will be

helpful. I am getting over a bad cold and it wasn't until I began

doing some Jin Shinn Jyutsu that I had any improvement. My sinuses

were so raw I couldn't stop sneezing and my eyes were constantly

watering. I did a 'hold' for sinuses while taking a short nap and

when I got up was about 90% better! I was very impressed and

continued doing more. Today I feel so so much better. I've been using

Jinn Shinn for years and it's possible it is the only reason I am

still here. It might be helpful for ES if anyone wants to try it. I

love it because it is so gentle. I use a book called 'The Touch of

Healing' by Alice Burmeister. Happy to be doing the 'thumping'

and 'cross-crawling' and other exercises now too.

Kathy

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Thanks, Kathy,

 

I will look into the " Jinn Shinn " , too!  I have heard of it but have no idea

what it is.

 

Thanks,

Diane

From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...>

Subject: Re: Essiac

Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 7:38 PM

Hi Diane,

I'm confident the energy exercises you gave a link for will be

helpful. I am getting over a bad cold and it wasn't until I began

doing some Jin Shinn Jyutsu that I had any improvement. My sinuses

were so raw I couldn't stop sneezing and my eyes were constantly

watering. I did a 'hold' for sinuses while taking a short nap and

when I got up was about 90% better! I was very impressed and

continued doing more. Today I feel so so much better. I've been using

Jinn Shinn for years and it's possible it is the only reason I am

still here. It might be helpful for ES if anyone wants to try it. I

love it because it is so gentle. I use a book called 'The Touch of

Healing' by Alice Burmeister. Happy to be doing the 'thumping'

and 'cross-crawling' and other exercises now too.

Kathy

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> > > Subject: Living in a Mobile Home?

> > > groups (DOT) com

> > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:35 PM

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> > > afford is a mobile homne in a trailer park (for seniors where

it

> > > should be nice and quiet, I'm 54).

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> > > My question is about EMFs and the metal on a trailer? Would I

be

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> > > from the frying pan into the fire? I haven't checked yet to

make

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  • 10 months later...

JS You will love this my friend I have a new obsession, and it is not MMS, the

next best thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essiac

According to Medline, based on tradition, some people take essiac tea on

occasion for general health purposes, detoxification, or for healing of various

ailments other than cancer. Some of these other ailments include AIDS, asthma,

chronic fatigue syndrome, diabetes, immune system disorders, liver problems,

Lyme disease, and lupus erythematosus. NIH's Medline says even less evidence is

available for these applications than for cancer.[5]

Updating the history of Essiac, Medline says:

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