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Thank you and I pretty much knew all of that. before I started taking

halcion. With all this pain and stress of working in the Insurance Industry.

I did not sleep for almost two years. Even though I was dead on my feet.

I take the lower dose....so I have no problem. I can't remember which

one... but my Dr. told me...if the President can take it then it must be ok.

Well I hope whatever people take. It helps them.

thank you for responding.

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Lynn,

Liz a mom on this list has her own web-site

with a poll on these questions. You might want to

check it out.

http://kidstalkback.tripod.com/kidstalkback/

Eileen

--- Lynn McClendon <mamapudd@...> wrote:

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> Has anyone ever considered setting up a file in the

> groups section to do a

> bit of a poll? on

> proEFA or other EFAs. It could be as simple as :

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> 1- ever use a EFA supplement?

> 2- any positive results?

> 3- no results at all?

> 4- therapist or professionals that can back up

> supplementation with

> documents?

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great! i went to the poll on the web site and voted. I'm wondering if i was

too strong. To me the change is huge even though the speech is more in the

significant range. Have others updated their votes?

Lynn

[ ] Re: poll

> Lynn,

> Liz a mom on this list has her own web-site

> with a poll on these questions. You might want to

> check it out.

> http://kidstalkback.tripod.com/kidstalkback/

> Eileen

> --- Lynn McClendon <mamapudd@...> wrote:

> > > View full article here:

> > > http://www.ldrc.ca/contents/view_article/204

> >

> > Has anyone ever considered setting up a file in the

> > groups section to do a

> > bit of a poll? on

> > proEFA or other EFAs. It could be as simple as :

> >

> > 1- ever use a EFA supplement?

> > 2- any positive results?

> > 3- no results at all?

> > 4- therapist or professionals that can back up

> > supplementation with

> > documents?

>

>

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Sulfalazine caused itching. MTX seems to be working. I also take Bextra. Iris

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Surely the group should exist for whatever people want to talk about?

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> Moderators,

> It may be better to have people use the poll function

> to respond to questions like the ones that were posed

> to us---that way we do not end up discussing sexual

> orientation when I really want to keep this forum for

> hypogonadism!

> Thanks!

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LOL! Definitely not something to mention on a first date.

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>well, I just slid a tray of marinated bison testicles into the

>dehydrator...what's the weirdest thing you ate today?

I'm afraid my oddest is my usual: half a pound of raw bison liver.

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On 1/9/06, downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...> wrote:

> well, I just slid a tray of marinated bison testicles into the

> dehydrator...what's the weirdest thing you ate today?

I'm curious... how much do you intend to eat at one time? Are you

concerned about testosterone overdose? And, do you know if there is

precedent for females eating testicles, or if the precedent among

primitives, is, rather, a sex division between sex organ consumption?

I do recall that for fertility in one group Price described fish egg

and roe were consumed by women and men respectively, but I don't know

if that's generalizable or not.

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>I'm curious... how much do you intend to eat at one time? Are you

>concerned about testosterone overdose?

I seem to remember reading somewhere or other that very little

testosterone is actually stored in the testes.

What that means for women eating rocky mountain oysters I don't know,

but they might not be the hormone feast common sense would seem to

suggest. And maybe she's making them for her clients, anyway.

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downwardog7 wrote:

>well, I just slid a tray of marinated bison testicles into the

>dehydrator...what's the weirdest thing you ate today?

>

>tb

>

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Beef tongue and chicken heart chili, with guacamole, salsa and Gerolsteiner.

Deanna

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>well, I just slid a tray of marinated bison testicles into the

>dehydrator...what's the weirdest thing you ate today?

How pedestrian.

I have bovine *trachea* marinated in EM dehydrating as we speak.

(well, OK, it's for the dogs, but I thought I'd try it first to make sure

it's safe for them)

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

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Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

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heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

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University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

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Funny you should ask... I was going to pose a question to the group

regarding dehydrating fowl feet. I can't seem to find any chicken feet

locally but found a source for goose feet by mail... 15 pounds at a

time which is more than my freezer can handle. Does anyone have reason

to believe the gelatin in goose feet would be effected by dehydration?

The primary use would be for creating/ thickening stocks.

Christa

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...Does anyone have reason

> to believe the gelatin in goose feet would be effected by dehydration?

> The primary use would be for creating/ thickening stocks.

Christa,

My preference would be to make a glace--reduced stock--from the feet

(and whatever else) and store that in small cubes.

But dehydrated feet? They do sound like a pretty cool ingredient to

have on, err...hand.

tb

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How about placenta? MY OWN, that is...nothin' like a little

cannibalism. Then again, I suppose the placenta is more my daughter's

than my own. A little Greek, methinks.

On 1/9/06, downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...> wrote:

> well, I just slid a tray of marinated bison testicles into the

> dehydrator...what's the weirdest thing you ate today?

>

> tb

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>How about placenta? MY OWN, that is...nothin' like a little

>cannibalism. Then again, I suppose the placenta is more my daughter's

>than my own.

How did you fix it? Marinate and dehydrate? Placenta broth with carrots and

celery? Pan seared in reduction sauce? Placenta sauerkraut? Kefirized

placenta? Placenta ceviche? Coconut placenta custard?

Can you share your recipe? We should put in the recipe file.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

----------------------------

“The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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You guys are awesome! I'll have to bust out some of the larvae in my

freezer... bought from a SE Asian grocery store--I'm not totally

self-sustaining yet... I do have chunks of kidney fat in the soup I'm

eating today... It's probably very similar to eating blubber, pure

soft chunks of fat that didn't dissolve during cooking... I would've

gagged a few years ago, but it seems like no big deal now and the

flavor is pleasant...

Mike

SE Pennsylvania

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....I'll have to bust out some of the larvae in my

> freezer... bought from a SE Asian grocery store...

Mike ,

Where can I find that? I mean, on what aisle/department? What does

the container look like? Identifying label/characteristics? How does

one prepare?

B.

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> Chris-

>

> >I'm curious... how much do you intend to eat at one time? Are you

> >concerned about testosterone overdose?

>

> I seem to remember reading somewhere or other that very little

> testosterone is actually stored in the testes.

>

> What that means for women eating rocky mountain oysters I don't know,

> but they might not be the hormone feast common sense would seem to

> suggest. And maybe she's making them for her clients, anyway.

,

Very astute, as usual. I am preparing them for a client as part of a

nutritional virilization program so I am dismayed to learn they may be

useless. Oh well, I've got plenty of other tricks up my sleeve.

B

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On 1/10/06, downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...> wrote:

> Very astute, as usual. I am preparing them for a client as part of a

> nutritional virilization program so I am dismayed to learn they may be

> useless. Oh well, I've got plenty of other tricks up my sleeve.

Even if they don't contain much testosterone, they should contain high

amounts of the stuff that is used to make testosterone -- and sperm

for that matter -- and thus be quite useful. In fact I would say

they'd be more useful, because, although testosterone replacement

might be useful under some circumstances, maybe, it would in the long

term, I would think, depress endogenous testosterone production,

whereas supplying the raw materials should increase endogenous

production.

Incidentally, the testes store their own vitamin A, so they're

probably a good source of vitamin A.

Chris

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A Case For Vegetarianism?

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> ...I'll have to bust out some of the larvae in my

> > freezer... bought from a SE Asian grocery store...

>

> Mike ,

> Where can I find that? I mean, on what aisle/department? What does

> the container look like? Identifying label/characteristics? How does

> one prepare?

> B.

Just look in the bug section of your local grocer! :-)

It was in the frozen section of a Vietnamese supermarket in

Philadelphia... They have two full aisles of frozen stuff, and I can't

recall what stuff it was near, maybe in the section of frozen

" real/whole foods " as opposed to weird junk stuff... I bought a bunch

of packages at once... $3 each... Probably not a common item... Just a

nondescript small package of white tray and clear plastic wrap, no

label (well, maybe a tiny one with two words in Thai and nothing

else), just looks like hundreds of little larvae packed together! I

don't know of any special or traditional preparation methods... I just

use it the same way as any other cooked meat in my personal culinary

habits, simmered in soups/sauces or steamed and tossed in salads...

I've only tried it a few times... Pleasant enough, but I want to find

a backyard source sometime...

Mike

SE Pennsylvania

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I love those ethnic grocery stores! So much cool stuff! I brought home some

smoked squid legs for my hubby a while back and he just loved them!

On 1/10/06, Anton <michaelantonparker@...> wrote:

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> > ...I'll have to bust out some of the larvae in my

> > > freezer... bought from a SE Asian grocery store...

> >

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Mommy to Zack (5) and Liddy (21 months)

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>Very astute, as usual. I am preparing them for a client as part of a

>nutritional virilization program so I am dismayed to learn they may be

>useless. Oh well, I've got plenty of other tricks up my sleeve.

Actually, oral testosterone is useless anyway. Someone taking it

might get a very brief surge, but the liver will rapidly deactivate

it, and before too long the liver winds up suffering big

time. That's why bodybuilders loved testosterone precursors back

before they were banned.

That's no reason not to feed your client testicles, though. As Chris

points out, they're likely to have all the necessary building blocks

(maybe even hormone precursors, though I have no idea whether that's

the case) and their vitamin A density, new to me, is just one more

argument in favor.

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Only on Native Nutrition LOL

On 1/11/06, Idol <Idol@...> wrote:

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>

>

> That's no reason not to feed your client testicles, though. As Chris

> points out, they're likely to have all the necessary building blocks

> (maybe even hormone precursors, though I have no idea whether that's

> the case) and their vitamin A density, new to me, is just one more

> argument in favor.

--

Mrs. () Siemens

Blessed to be his helpmeet, 7 years and counting!!!

Mommy to Zack (5) and Liddy (21 months)

no fear, only faith; no guilt, only grace; no pride, only praise; no claim,

only Christ

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LOL!!!! Placenta ceviche INDEED!!!! Suze, you should know me well

enough by now to know that I'm a WIMP when it comes to eating weird

organs...I've been eating it freeze dried and IN CAPSULES no less. I

was trying to sound much more fierce than I actually am. However, in

less burly circles I'm considered super-eccentric when it comes to

food. Bison liver is very impressive to the average layperson.

COOKED bison liver, that is.

On 1/10/06, Suze Fisher <s.fisher22@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> >How about placenta? MY OWN, that is...nothin' like a little

> >cannibalism. Then again, I suppose the placenta is more my daughter's

> >than my own.

>

> How did you fix it? Marinate and dehydrate? Placenta broth with carrots and

> celery? Pan seared in reduction sauce? Placenta sauerkraut? Kefirized

> placenta? Placenta ceviche? Coconut placenta custard?

>

> Can you share your recipe? We should put in the recipe file.

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