Re: Re: Using compresses; eczema vs. psoriasis

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The terms "eczema" and "psoriasis" are both of Greek origin. Eczema literally means "to boil out" and psoriasis derived from "psoera", meaning "to itch". The age bracket when eczema and psoriasis attack differs. Psoriasis often inflicts adults, more than they do in children. One survey showed that about 3% of UK and US adults are affected with psoriasis. As for eczema, about 20% of UK and US children and 5% of its adult population are experiencing the said condition. In general, psoriasis is said to have been more pervalent in adults while eczema are often experienced by children. The root causes of psoriasis and eczema also differ. Skin irritants often cause eczema. These include products with strong chemicals including detergents, perfumes and harsh cosmetics. On the other hand, psoriasis is link with a strong genetic component than it is likely to have been caused by environmental irritants. The appearance of the affected skin in case of eczema and psoriasis may have some similarities but they do have evident differences that set them apart from each other. Eczema is described as dry skin that may appear to be small blisters or raised spots. It is also coupled with excessive itching. On the other hand, psoriasis is rough, red and raised skin, which can be itchy too. The

main difference of eczema and psoriasis is that the latter is characterized by scaly flaking that may often cause skin bleeding. Both eczema and psoriasis don't have exact cure methods yet, but treatments can effectively help alleviate their symptoms. While eczema has less serious symptoms, psoriasis can pose adverse effects on body joints and may cause symptoms similar to arthritis. Since eczema may be triggered by allergic reactions to specific kind of foods, you can help reduce eczema breakouts by avoiding whatever foods you think caused your eczema breakouts. Although there are no proven links between psoriasis and one's diet, some experts advice less intake of fats and sweets. There are relevant differences of psoriasis and eczema. However to be absolutely sure as to the type of skin condition that you are having, it is best to get a proper diagnosis by a skin specialist. You can then seek the appropriate treatment and medication for your skin problems. cgiambri <cgiambri@...> wrote: Suzi,Hello to you all

too.What's difference between eczema and psoriasis? Daughter's friend is on steroid cream and believe it is psorais as diagnosis. It's so bad she scratches and bleeds ALL over. Imaging that? Just like hubby. Just heard today and not sure if she wants to change either. My daughter is telling her about candida cleanse he is doing, the ion cleanses and als the naet with acupuncture treatments. Wonder about stress related? Of coruse I believe diet? No kids/husband, but good job, 36ish.hugs,carolg Suzi List

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Psoriasis is stress related and is thought

to be autoimmune as well. The skin produces skin cells too rapidly, which then

die and form silvery scaly plaques. These itch like hell and when scratched too

vigorously will peel off too far down and bleed and possible cause infection.

Diet, exercise, loose fitting natural fiber clothing.

Janet

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Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008

8:15 PM

health

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Re: Using compresses; eczema vs. psoriasis

Suzi,

Hello to you all too.

What's difference between eczema and psoriasis? Daughter's friend

is on steroid cream and believe it is psorais as diagnosis. It's so

bad she scratches and bleeds ALL over. Imaging that? Just like

hubby. Just heard today and not sure if she wants to change

either. My daughter is telling her about candida cleanse he is

doing, the ion cleanses and als the naet with acupuncture

treatments.

Wonder about stress related? Of coruse I believe diet? No

kids/husband, but good job, 36ish.

hugs,

carolg

-- In health ,

Suzanne

<suziesgoats@...> wrote:

>

> Heal Yourself Using Plants from Your Own Garden - How to Make

Compresses by Kolbjørn Borseth of Aromantic

> Your back garden is a treasure trove of

healing herbs and flowers which can be used at little expense to

make a range of healing products and health remedies. Using your own

plants also provides you with the assurance of using fresh, organic

and uncontaminated materials. You can never know the history behind

herbs and vegetable oils. They could for example have been grown

next to a motorway, absorbing potentially harmful toxins. They could

also have been stored indefinitely, reducing the potency of the

ingredients. In this article we show you how to use your own garden

products to make compresses, tinctures and healing oils.

> These remedies are tried and tested over history, so why not

have a go? It's amazingly simple and safe to make many of these

remedies and you will have the satisfaction of knowing that you are

using your garden not only for food and pleasure but for healing

your family. It's like having your own family health centre in your

back garden and you don't need to rely on drug companies to deal

with all of your health problems.

> Making Compresses Compresses are an excellent way to apply a

treatment externally to a specific part of the body. This reduces

the necessity for internal medication. There are two types of

compress, those without heat and those with heat. Compresses without

heat are used on wounds, eczema, psoriasis and similar problems

where the skin is broken (not inflamed). NB: Never use warming

compresses on broken skin.

> Compress with heat are used when the skin is not broken, for

example with rheumatism, sprains, inflammations, accidents, pains

and swellings (but not with shingles). With pain you can also use a

heating pillow, outside the hot compress. A hot water bottle would

also suffice. Cover the compress with wool or other insulating

materials.

> When garlic and onion is used, it is important that it does not

come into direct contact with the skin, and should therefore be

placed on a cotton cloth. Never use hot compresses on wounds as the

ingredients will be absorbed into the body. As a rule, compresses

should be left on the person overnight, but not for more than 8 - 10

hours at a time. (This doesn't apply to burns). Don't put the same

compress on two nights in a row. An exception is dry chamomile

compress, which you can use for more than one night in a row. You

can use this compress with or without heating.

> How to Make a Compress You will need:

> A cotton cloth 30 x 50 cm for compress to throat, knee or

elbow.

> Clingfilm, surgical tape or freezer tape (never use tape or

Clingfilm directly on the skin).

> Elastic Bandage.

> Woolen cloth.

> Method:

> Take a cotton cloth 50 x 30 cm, spread about 200ml of the

recommended content evenly in the middle of the cotton cloth. Then

cover with Clingfilm.

> Fold each side of the cloth over the content.

> Lastly tape everything so the content is secure.

> Place the compress on the area to be treated with the cloth

side towards the skin. The Clingfilm is facing outside, so the

healing content goes into the body/skin. Wrap around with an elastic

bandage and secure with tape.

> Compresses on a wounded surface can first appear much worse.

This is because the compress draws out puss and impurities through

the wound. Change the compress often, wash and clean the area with a

strong chamomile infusion. You will soon see a big improvement and

the wound will heal.

> Arnica Compress Use on sprains, bruises, swollen skin, pains,

burns and herpes blisters.

> 50 ml warm water and 1 - 2 teaspoons Arnica tincture.

> Put a cotton cloth in hot Arnica water, squeeze the cloth and

put it over the area to be treated. Put Clingfilm over and then a

stretchy bandage. With a hot compress, put the woolen cloth over the

Clingfilm and then the stretchy bandage. Using Arnica on burns

increases the bleeding through and reduces the scar formation.

> Warning: The skin should not be in contact with Arnica for more

than 6 hours per day, too long at a time can create skin irritation.

Never take arnica tincture internally.

> Chamomile Compress Useful for: sore throats, pain, prostate

problems, psoriasis, eczema, earache.

> Use about 20 gr. of chamomile flowers on the middle of the

compress. Fold and tape. Put the Clingfilm on the top. You can use

this chamomile compress up to 30 times if it's not wet after use.

You have to put it in a sealed plastic bag between uses.

> Onion Compress Useful for: throat infections, hoarseness,

earache, eye problems, muscle and acute joint inflammations, good

for sinusitis. With eye problems, it aches for 1 minute after you

put on the compress.

> All you need is one onion, finely chopped and placed in a piece

of cotton cloth. Use a rolling pin to flatten the package and

squeeze out the juices. Cover with Clingfilm and then fold into a

cotton cloth. Fold and tape together and place cotton side down on

the affected area with the Clingfilm on the outside. Wrap with a

woolen cloth and stretch bandage.

> Warning: The first time you use onion compress, use it only for

1 hour to see if you have a positive reaction.

> Green Cabbage or Savoy Compress Useful for: eczema, psoriasis,

menstrual cramps, pains, swelling, infections in the skin, joint

pain.

> Use the green outer leaves from organically grown plants. Cut

away the thick stalks and use a rolling pin or bottle to press flat.

Place and layer the inside of the leaves (the smooth side) around

the entire area of the skin, root side down. Bind to body with

cotton or lint free cloth. Then hold together with cling film and

cover with a stretch bandage. Leave on overnight. (Cabbage contains

a senaps oil that increases the blood circulation. It also includes

the wound healing substance U Vitamin).

> Potato Compress Useful for: eczema or swelling under the eyes.

> Use 3 peeled grated raw organic potatoes. Spread the potatoes on

the cotton cloth and fold it together. When used on the eyes, put

the grated raw potato in a small piece of gauze. Let it work for 30

minutes with closed eyes.

> Compresses for Rheumatism Night 1: Onion Compress.

> Night 2 Dry Chamomile Compress.

> Night 3: Arnica Compress.

> Compresses Leg Wounds Night 1: Cabbage Compress.

> Night 2 Chamomile Herbal Tea Compress.

> Night 3: Onion Compress.

> Macerated Vegetable Oils for Skin Healing - Calendula Flowers in

Oil Making your own macerated oil is very easy. Take fresh flowers

from your garden, chop up the flower buds and fill up a jar with

vegetable oil. (Choose virgin olive oil which does not go rancid.)

Pack the flower buds into the jar, seal and sit in the sun for 2 - 3

days then leave it in a dark cupboard for 2 - 3 weeks, shaking it

every day. Strain the mixture through muslin and store in a dark

jar. It will keep for around 2 years if stored in a dark cool place.

> Make your own Tinctures Tinctures are alcohol-based solutions

which draw out the healing ingredients from herbs and flowers. You

can make tinctures using wild flowers or flowers from your garden.

Simply use chopped flowers and pack it in a jar half filled with the

strongest vodka. Use 100 - 150 gr. fresh flowers or herbs to 150ml

alcohol. If you use dried herbs or flowers use only 10 - 15 gr. in

150ml alcohol. Seal the jar and leave it in on a sunny window sill

for 2 - 3 days. Then store in a dark place at room temperature for

2 - 3 weeks, shaking it every day. Strain through muslin cloth and

store in a dark bottle. The tincture will keep for 2 - 3 years.

> For both Macerated oils and tinctures, St 's Wort and

Marigold flowers are excellent for treating sunburn and skin sores.

Using Arnica on swollen skin will reduce the swelling overnight. An

onion compress for earache will dramatically reduce the pain

overnight also.

> Kolbjorn Borseth has been working with alternative medicine for

25 years. Originally from Norway,

he moved to Sweden

and for ten

years he worked with the leading lady of complimentary medicine,

Lily Johansen. Her complimentary health care clinic treated over

30,000 patients. At that time we picked all of our fresh herbs and

ingredients to be used fresh in the treatments each day. The above

recipes come from this hospital.

> In 1985, Kolbjorn started a Natural skin care factory in Sweden

using local herbs. In one season he picked around 4,000 kg of herbs

for drying and for making natural medicines and treatments.

> About the Author: Kolbjørn Borseth of Aromantic specializes in

empowering people of all levels in making their own highly effective

natural skin care products. Through his web site customers are able

to access many free resources as well as being able to order all the

raw materials, equipment and know-how required to make aromatherapy

products, creams, shampoos, soaps and cosmetics.

>

>

>

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Psoriasis is also related to a toxic liver. My husband has been dealing with it under his finger and toenails for about 30 years. He followed an elimination diet very strictly for one full year with no results. He has tried prescription vitamin d cream, injections under his nails, creams, the gamet and nothing has worked. Not even going 100% raw 100% of the time for a term of six months.

He read something on at www.rense.com (can't tell you what it was and he's not home right now) but it was something about turmeric helping psoriasis. He's been taking turmeric capsules for a couple weeks and he swears things are better. Of course he's thought that with almost everything he's tried, but we'll see.

Shari

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DH has it too. Just finished a liver cleanse, trying many things under the sun. I made several herbal things over the years. He quit smoking 2 years ago. Nothing helps. There was a recent suggestion I am going to try using colloidal silver topically and applying a laser pen light to it. Might as well - nothing to loose but a little money and sleep. The itching is driving him nuts.

Tried jewel weed, arnica, nettle, mullein, plantain, kombucha baths, extra B vitamins, liver cleanse,.....etcetcetc!

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Re: Re: Using compresses; eczema vs. psoriasis

Psoriasis is also related to a toxic liver. My husband has been dealing with it under his finger and toenails for about 30 years. He followed an elimination diet very strictly for one full year with no results. He has tried prescription vitamin d cream, injections under his nails, creams, the gamet and nothing has worked. Not even going 100% raw 100% of the time for a term of six months.

He read something on at www.rense.com (can't tell you what it was and he's not home right now) but it was something about turmeric helping psoriasis. He's been taking turmeric capsules for a couple weeks and he swears things are better. Of course he's thought that with almost everything he's tried, but we'll see.

Shari

[Guest guest]

Orally? Topically? Please explain.

Gayla

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Acampo, California

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Re: Using compresses; eczema vs. psoriasis

> Use Colloidal Silver.

>

>

> -- In health , " SV " <shavig@...> wrote:

>>

>> Psoriasis is also related to a toxic liver. My husband has been

> dealing with it under his finger and toenails for about 30 years. He

> followed an elimination diet very strictly for one full year with no

> results. He has tried prescription vitamin d cream, injections under

> his nails, creams, the gamet and nothing has worked. Not even going

> 100% raw 100% of the time for a term of six months.

>>

>> He read something on at www.rense.com (can't tell you what it was

> and he's not home right now) but it was something about turmeric

> helping psoriasis. He's been taking turmeric capsules for a couple

> weeks and he swears things are better. Of course he's thought that

> with almost everything he's tried, but we'll see.

>>

>> Shari

>>

>

>

>

>

>

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Shari, are you sure it’s not onychomycosis?

Fancy word for nail bed fungus. That’s what I’d suspect if it is

limited to the nails. It is difficult to cure because the nail protects the

underlying infection. If this is the case, then you might want to try painting

the nails with black walnut tincture. It will stain them though so might want

to try it on a toenail to see if it helps any, then go from there.

Janet

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of SV

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008

5:37 PM

health

Subject: Re:

Re: Using compresses; eczema vs. psoriasis

Psoriasis is also related to a toxic liver. My husband

has been dealing with it under his finger and toenails for about 30

years. He followed an elimination diet very strictly for one full year

with no results. He has tried prescription vitamin d cream, injections

under his nails, creams, the gamet and nothing has worked. Not even going

100% raw 100% of the time for a term of six months.

He read something on at www.rense.com

(can't tell you what it was and he's not home right now) but it was something

about turmeric helping psoriasis. He's been taking turmeric capsules for

a couple weeks and he swears things are better. Of course he's thought

that with almost everything he's tried, but we'll see.

Shari

[Guest guest]

Nope, because as the years go by it's moved to his hips and right on his tailbone. He sits in a van driving a lot and that's where his jeans rub. It's not fungus, he was tested for that.

S

RE: Re: Using compresses; eczema vs. psoriasis

Shari, are you sure it’s not onychomycosis? Fancy word for nail bed fungus. That’s what I’d suspect if it is limited to the nails. It is difficult to cure because the nail protects the underlying infection. If this is the case, then you might want to try painting the nails with black walnut tincture. It will stain them though so might want to try it on a toenail to see if it helps any, then go from there.

Janet

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of SVSent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 5:37 PMhealth Subject: Re: Re: Using compresses; eczema vs. psoriasis

Psoriasis is also related to a toxic liver. My husband has been dealing with it under his finger and toenails for about 30 years. He followed an elimination diet very strictly for one full year with no results. He has tried prescription vitamin d cream, injections under his nails, creams, the gamet and nothing has worked. Not even going 100% raw 100% of the time for a term of six months.

He read something on at www.rense.com (can't tell you what it was and he's not home right now) but it was something about turmeric helping psoriasis. He's been taking turmeric capsules for a couple weeks and he swears things are better. Of course he's thought that with almost everything he's tried, but we'll see.

Shari

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This works. I've done it for my toe nails.Peace, love, laughterJanet <dragonhealing@...> wrote: Shari, are you sure it’s not onychomycosis? Fancy word for nail bed fungus. That’s what I’d suspect if it is limited to the nails. It is difficult to cure because the nail protects the underlying infection. If this is

the case, then you might want to try painting the nails with black walnut tincture. It will stain them though so might want to try it on a toenail to see if it helps any, then go from there. Janet

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I have just developed a spot on one leg that behaves as if it may be

psoriasis. If I take the homeopathic remedy Apis Mell. it gets rid of

the itching for several hours.

Judith Alta

Gayla wrote:

DH has it too.

Just finished a liver cleanse, trying many things under the sun. I made

several herbal things over the years. He quit smoking 2 years ago.

Nothing helps. There was a recent suggestion I am going to try using

colloidal silver topically and applying a laser pen light to it. Might

as well - nothing to loose but a little money and sleep. The itching is

driving him nuts.

Tried jewel

weed, arnica, nettle, mullein, plantain, kombucha baths, extra B

vitamins, liver cleanse,.....etcetcetc!

Gayla

Always Enough Ranch

Acampo, California

http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html

aeranch@...

[Guest guest]

Tried Black Walnut?Gayla <aeranch@...> wrote: Tried jewel weed, arnica, nettle, mullein, plantain, kombucha baths, extra B vitamins, liver cleanse,.....etcetcetc! Suzi List Owner health/ http://360./suziesgoats What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered.

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Vick's Vapor Rub is used for nail fungus. It takes a long time, but rub it well into the cuticle and leave it on. You can make it using olive oil, menthol crystals, camphor and eucalyptus essential oils and thicken it with bees wax.

It is also great to rub on the soles of your feet last thing at night if you feel a cold coming. Or for general tiredness. Put socks on and go to bed.

Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiahttp://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.htmlaeranch@...

RE: Re: Using compresses; eczema vs. psoriasis

Shari, are you sure it’s not onychomycosis? Fancy word for nail bed fungus. That’s what I’d suspect if it is limited to the nails. It is difficult to cure because the nail protects the underlying infection. If this is the case, then you might want to try painting the nails with black walnut tincture. It will stain them though so might want to try it on a toenail to see if it helps any, then go from there.

Janet

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of SVSent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 5:37 PMhealth Subject: Re: Re: Using compresses; eczema vs. psoriasis

Psoriasis is also related to a toxic liver. My husband has been dealing with it under his finger and toenails for about 30 years. He followed an elimination diet very strictly for one full year with no results. He has tried prescription vitamin d cream, injections under his nails, creams, the gamet and nothing has worked. Not even going 100% raw 100% of the time for a term of six months.

He read something on at www.rense.com (can't tell you what it was and he's not home right now) but it was something about turmeric helping psoriasis. He's been taking turmeric capsules for a couple weeks and he swears things are better. Of course he's thought that with almost everything he's tried, but we'll see.

Shari

[Guest guest]

Got a source for that?

Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiahttp://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.htmlaeranch@...

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I have just developed a spot on one leg that behaves as if it may be psoriasis. If I take the homeopathic remedy Apis Mell. it gets rid of the itching for several hours.Judith AltaGayla wrote:

DH has it too. Just finished a liver cleanse, trying many things under the sun. I made several herbal things over the years. He quit smoking 2 years ago. Nothing helps. There was a recent suggestion I am going to try using colloidal silver topically and applying a laser pen light to it. Might as well - nothing to loose but a little money and sleep. The itching is driving him nuts.

Tried jewel weed, arnica, nettle, mullein, plantain, kombucha baths, extra B vitamins, liver cleanse,.....etcetcetc!

Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiahttp://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.htmlaeranch@...

[Guest guest]

Not yet. I have some black walnuts in the freezer to make tincture from. I guess I had better get going.

I always thought it was an internal thing. Now it looks like maybe allergies? Inheritable? Who knows!! <da Shadow knows!>

Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiahttp://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.htmlaeranch@...

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Tried Black Walnut?Gayla <aeranch@...> wrote:

Tried jewel weed, arnica, nettle, mullein, plantain, kombucha baths, extra B vitamins, liver cleanse,.....etcetcetc!

Suzi

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Carol, yes frustrating.. but you know the old adage... you can lead a horse to water...... Suzicgiambri <cgiambri@...> wrote: Suzi,Awesome.You know what is so frustrating: you give people information and they are slow to change, but quick and desperate for drugs like that steroid cream this girl is using. My daughter is super slow to change too even with her Crohn's. She desperately needs counseling and stress management, but not taking any action to get either. She's not even exercising. I can only give the information out but can't make the choice for her. What a relief! I can sleep.hugs,

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http://www.elixirs.com/apis.cfm carries it... along with alot more. Gayla <aeranch@...> wrote: Got a source for that? Gayla

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A source for the Apis?

I get it at my local health food store.

Judith Alta

Gayla wrote:

Got a source for

that?

Gayla

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Acampo, California

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Sunday, January 20, 2008 6:06 PM

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Re: Re: Using compresses; eczema vs. psoriasis

I have just developed a spot on one leg that behaves as if it may be

psoriasis. If I take the homeopathic remedy Apis Mell. it gets rid of

the itching for several hours.

Judith Alta

[Guest guest]

Thank you kindly.

Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiahttp://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.htmlaeranch@...

Re: Re: Using compresses; eczema vs. psoriasis

http://www.elixirs.com/apis.cfm carries it... along with alot more.

Gayla <aeranch@...> wrote:

Got a source for that?

Gayla

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