Re: Weight Watchers & Raw

[Guest guest]

Sharyn,

Can you experiment and set up your own point system?

I have found that if I eliminate as much phony phood as possible and

tune into my tummy, quitting as soon as it is comfortably full, I can

lose weight.

Good luck!

Judith

Sharyn E. Cerniglia wrote:

I joined Weight Watchers

last Tuesday, trying to get a

handle on both this 7+ extra pounds I’m carrying and the holiday

season. I don’t have any problem staying in the point guidelines,

but feel that there is way too much processed food pushed to stay

within those

points. For example, I wanted to eat a piece of raw milk cheese the

other

day and it came out to 5 points for a small piece! I’m thinking

that raw foods should have either no points at all (since they’re

totally

assimilated) or at the very least a reduced amount. And I eat a lot of

raw foods, so want to be able not to include them in my daily points

total. For instance, today I ate an apple (1 point), which I think

should

be 0 points because it’s raw. (At least all non-starch veggies are

0 points, cooked or raw.)

Anyone have any advice on

how to enjoin these two

paradigms? I realize that it’s best to eat 100% raw, but I just can’t

do it. I have a husband who won’t go there and we eat out a lot and

the holidays are here. At home, I don’t have any trouble staying

100% raw until dinner, though, so that HAS to account for something,

doesn’t

it?

Any advice greatly

appreciated!

Sharyn, down 3.2 pounds

in 3 days

[Guest guest]

I’m getting to that point,

Judith. But first I want to follow the program as much as possible to see

how I fit in there. Since Tuesday, I’ve lost 3.4 pounds, without

feeling at all deprived. I just think the point system is based on eating

a lot of “phony phoods” as you say, and would like to be able to

translate it as much as possible into real food. And I really think that

anything raw (1) uses as much energy to digest as is in the calories of the

food and (2) leaves no toxic residue to accumulate as pudge around the

midsection. I’ve joined for three months…will eat as healthy

as I possibly can and try to keep within the points system. Of course,

once I reach my goal weight (only 4 more pounds), I’ll go on maintenance

and will probably have more leeway built into the system.

I also don’t eat a lot of phony

phood, and tune into my tummy…but I do like my 5:00pm pomegranate martini

and maybe a glass of wine with dinner, and those empty calories add up. I

thought I didn’t eat very much until I had to start accounting for every

bite that goes into my mouth. It’s been an interesting

experience. Plus I have to account for each glass of water and serving of

fruits/veggies/dairy, etc., which is a good thing because I probably wasn’t

drinking enough water before and now I have to check off each one I drink.

Tonight is our weekly Happy Hour at the

local microbrew. Dirty martinis are less points than pomegranate ones

(because the olive juice has no points vs. 2 points for the pomegranate martini

mix), so I’ll save there, and have a wedge salad with the dressing on the

side, which will only have 1 or 2 points. Plus I’ll save up my

points during the day to splurge for HH.<G>

Thanks for the feedback!

Sharyn

From: health

[mailto:health ]

On Behalf Of Judith Alta K

Sharyn,

Can you experiment and set up your own point system?

I have found that if I eliminate as much phony phood as possible and tune into

my tummy, quitting as soon as it is comfortably full, I can lose weight.

[Guest guest]

Sorry Sharyn, I don't know much about weight watchers. Are you drinking enough water? taking any enzymes? How about incorporating some herbal teas (geared to weight loss) in your daily regime? Suzi"Sharyn E. Cerniglia" <sharyncern@...> wrote: I joined Weight Watchers last Tuesday, trying to get a handle on both this 7+ extra pounds I’m carrying and the holiday season. I don’t have any problem staying in the point guidelines, but feel that there is way too much processed food pushed to stay within those points. For example, I wanted to eat a piece of raw milk cheese the other day and it came out to 5 points for a small piece! I’m thinking that raw foods should have either no points at all (since they’re totally assimilated) or at the very least a reduced amount. And I eat a lot of raw foods, so want to be able not to include them in my daily points total. For instance, today I ate an apple (1 point), which I think should be 0 points because it’s raw. (At

least all non-starch veggies are 0 points, cooked or raw.) Anyone have any advice on how to enjoin these two paradigms? I realize that it’s best to eat 100% raw, but I just can’t do it. I have a husband who won’t go there and we eat out a lot and the holidays are here. At home, I don’t have any trouble staying 100% raw until dinner, though, so that HAS to account for something, doesn’t it?

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[Guest guest]

Oh, yes, I’m drinking plenty of

water. We have to check off at least eight glasses a day, and I’m

drinking more than that. Not taking enzymes, but eating a lot of raw.

I’ve lost 3.4 pounds since Tuesday,

eating pretty well. I’m just trying to figure how their point system

fits into raw eating…

Sharyn

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Suzanne

Sorry Sharyn,

I don't know much about weight watchers.

Are you drinking enough water? taking any enzymes?

How about incorporating some herbal teas (geared to weight loss)

in your daily regime?

Suzi

[Guest guest]

Sharyn,

Are you doing CARDIO? My trainer said cardio plus water I must do.

Raw is great, but for me making those small changes helped tons.

Raw people do eat lots of nuts, avoc and fruits.

My key is trainer telling me WHAT and HOW to use the

machines/exercises designed for my personal body. He weekly meets

with me and changes my program at that time totally. I'm sold out

to success seeing drastic results. My clothing is so big there is no

way to keep it in closet so being donated often now. I know it's a

big investment having a trainer, but then I am willing to sacrifice

and stand on my feet for hours just to make money and do this. At

24 fitness I am shocked at tons of people using trainers too. They

have cute clothing, but on sale there good deals; otherwise, pricey.

I am excited to share always. I am overwhelmed with all this gym

equipment and just walking around wondering what to do each time. It

takes the guess work out of my gym experience. I'm not saying I

will have trainer forever weekly, but always will have one that I

can get guidance from. I am self motivated and not everyone is

however so whether I see him at the gym daily doesn't impact my

showing up and doing what I am " told " to do being a good student.

hugs,

carolg

>

> Oh, yes, I'm drinking plenty of water. We have to check off at

least eight

> glasses a day, and I'm drinking more than that. Not taking

enzymes, but

> eating a lot of raw.

>

>

>

> I've lost 3.4 pounds since Tuesday, eating pretty well. I'm just

trying to

> figure how their point system fits into raw eating.

>

>

>

> Sharyn

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: health

> [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Suzanne

>

>

>

> Sorry Sharyn,

>

> I don't know much about weight watchers.

>

> Are you drinking enough water? taking any enzymes?

>

> How about incorporating some herbal teas (geared to weight loss)

in your

> daily regime?

>

> Suzi

>

[Guest guest]

Be careful with water. In large quantities it can kill!

Eight glasses of water spaced out through the day should be fine, but

don't try to drink that much in one sitting.

This past summer a woman died when she entered a contest to see who

could dring the most water the fastest.

Just a heads up as to what can happen when things are overdone.

Judith Alta

cgiambri wrote:

Sharyn,

Are you doing CARDIO? My trainer said cardio plus water I must do. Raw is great, but for me making those small changes helped tons. Raw people do eat lots of nuts, avoc and fruits. My key is trainer telling me WHAT and HOW to use the machines/exercises designed for my personal body. He weekly meets with me and changes my program at that time totally. I'm sold out to success seeing drastic results. My clothing is so big there is no way to keep it in closet so being donated often now. I know it's a big investment having a trainer, but then I am willing to sacrifice and stand on my feet for hours just to make money and do this. At 24 fitness I am shocked at tons of people using trainers too. They have cute clothing, but on sale there good deals; otherwise, pricey.

I am excited to share always. I am overwhelmed with all this gym equipment and just walking around wondering what to do each time. It takes the guess work out of my gym experience. I'm not saying I will have trainer forever weekly, but always will have one that I can get guidance from. I am self motivated and not everyone is however so whether I see him at the gym daily doesn't impact my showing up and doing what I am "told" to do being a good student.

hugs,

carolg

Oh, yes, I'm drinking plenty of water. We have to check off at

least eight

glasses a day, and I'm drinking more than that. Not taking

enzymes, but

eating a lot of raw.

I've lost 3.4 pounds since Tuesday, eating pretty well. I'm just

trying to

figure how their point system fits into raw eating.

Sharyn

_____ From: health

[mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Suzanne

Sorry Sharyn,

I don't know much about weight watchers.

Are you drinking enough water? taking any enzymes?

How about incorporating some herbal teas (geared to weight loss)

in your

daily regime?

Suzi

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all that info, CarolG.

Just to clarify...I'm not having any problem losing weight, just trying to

fit the WW point system into a partially raw food diet. Maybe it can't be

done and I'll have to devise my own points for raw foods.

There isn't any 24-hour Fitness near me, Carol. I did Curves for a

year...saw improvements in the first six months, but not after that, so I

quit.

I have a big dog to walk, a swimming pool to swim in, a Rebounder to jump

on, and tons of yoga DVDs to practice with. I think those will do fine for

exercise...am just trying to fit the WW point system into raw foods. They

seem to use the same points for a food whether it's raw or cooked. I don't

think that's valid.

Sharyn

-----Original Message-----

From: health

[mailto:health ] On Behalf Of cgiambri

I joined 24 hour fitness.

http://24hourfit.schedulesource.com/public/

FL has some places.

[Guest guest]

Hi Sharyn,

If me, I would just then count a raw vs. a cooked veggie with the

same WW count. The key for me is to watch what/if I put on the

veggies. Yesterday, at seminar, we all went to Mexican restaurant

for lunch. Ordered large salad and out came a small plate

with " iceberg lettuce, a few bites of tomato, and a tiny bit of

sliced almonds. " It was horrible, but ate it. It was very skimpy.

Table had large bowls of deep fried chips. I had 3 tiny ones. The

salsa was fire hot. I don't like fire hot foods. I would think WW

would investigate some conversion talk about raw vs. cooked, but

maybe it's not an issue for them or enough people.

gym/spa: Great you have all the yoga dvds and lots of exercise

variations to do. For me I like doing the group thing which I get

at 24 hour, but I love the training portion with trainer. I know

trainer not your option, but for me he customizes my workout daily.

It helps me understand proper use of equipment, what exercises to do

and for which body parts. I am still wondering if you are getting

enough cardio to burn? I do cardio before I get into my actual

workout for a few minuites as warm up, then at end I conclude my

entire workout with a tough cardio. How much rebounding are you

doing daily? I know that's fabulous too. Trainer has me on the

treadmill presently for the cardio part. I am at the highest

incline, 15, and I play with the speed. The more I up the speed the

more I huff and puff to the max. It is quite a workout.

Best to you.

hugs,

carolg

>

> Thanks for all that info, CarolG.

>

> Just to clarify...I'm not having any problem losing weight, just

trying to

> fit the WW point system into a partially raw food diet. Maybe it

can't be

> done and I'll have to devise my own points for raw foods.

>

> There isn't any 24-hour Fitness near me, Carol. I did Curves for a

> year...saw improvements in the first six months, but not after

that, so I

> quit.

>

> I have a big dog to walk, a swimming pool to swim in, a Rebounder

to jump

> on, and tons of yoga DVDs to practice with. I think those will do

fine for

> exercise...am just trying to fit the WW point system into raw

foods. They

> seem to use the same points for a food whether it's raw or

cooked. I don't

> think that's valid.

>

> Sharyn

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: health

> [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of

cgiambri

>

> I joined 24 hour fitness.

> http://24hourfit.schedulesource.com/public/

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Carol. I'll use the same WW counts raw v. cooked. But I think I

should have more leeway with raw, although veggies don't have any points

anyway, and most fruit only has one.

I really don't want to go out somewhere to exercise. Especially when I've

got all these resources here. I don't need one more thing in my day to take

up time.<G>

Swimming is cardio...walking is cardio...rebounding is cardio...yoga is

weight. I think I'm getting enough.

Sharyn

-----Original Message-----

From: health

[mailto:health ] On Behalf Of cgiambri

If me, I would just then count a raw vs. a cooked veggie with the

same WW count.

gym/spa: Great you have all the yoga dvds and lots of exercise

variations to do. For me I like doing the group thing which I get

at 24 hour, but I love the training portion with trainer.

[Guest guest]

Sharyn,

Not familiar with the revised point system of WW since so long since

I have been attached to them.

Surely you have lots of cardio going, but for me away from the house

gets me among people which I need as people person otherwise I could

be a shut in here.

Best to you.

carolg

>

> Thanks, Carol. I'll use the same WW counts raw v. cooked. But I

think I

> should have more leeway with raw, although veggies don't have any

points

> anyway, and most fruit only has one.

>

> I really don't want to go out somewhere to exercise. Especially

when I've

> got all these resources here. I don't need one more thing in my

day to take

> up time.<G>

>

> Swimming is cardio...walking is cardio...rebounding is

cardio...yoga is

> weight. I think I'm getting enough.

>

> Sharyn

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: health

> [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of

cgiambri

>

> If me, I would just then count a raw vs. a cooked veggie with the

> same WW count.

>

> gym/spa: Great you have all the yoga dvds and lots of exercise

> variations to do. For me I like doing the group thing which I get

> at 24 hour, but I love the training portion with trainer.

>