Guest guest Posted September 23, 2001 Report Share Posted September 23, 2001 Magnesium helps with that along with potassium. Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2001 Report Share Posted September 23, 2001 > Has anyone successfully given their child a supplement that deals with muscle > spasms? If they are neurological spasms, you can give minerals that are used for nerve firing, including calcium and phosphorous. > My son has improved so much since the enzymes but one of the few things > still noticeable is the facial and arm spasms when he gets excited. Are they spasms or stims? If they are stims, you can ignore them or try redirection. In > addition to this he grinds his teeth (although I do know that this goes away > when he is not taking TMG - this however is not an option at the moment). I have heard teeth grinding is a sign of mercury toxicity, have you had your child's metals tested or are you chelating? Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2001 Report Share Posted September 24, 2001 In a message dated 09/23/2001 9:33:40 PM Central Daylight Time, kjorn@... writes: > If they are > relatively serious, you might ask about a prescription med called > Baclofen. I take it as needed now but did take it daily for over a > , I have a group of symptoms that I call " brain symptoms. " They are a varying combination of scalding/burning/stinging feelings just under my scalp as well as sort of creepy-crawly sensations. Sometimes there is the accompanying feeling of my head being squeezed in a vise. Do you have any similar symptoms? I was wondering if Baclofen might be useful for me, as well, though I do generally avoid conventional medicines. n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2001 Report Share Posted September 24, 2001 magnesium is usually in short supply, there is plenty of phosphorus usually and calcium is used in ratio with magnesium. magensium oxide is a laxitive but chelated magnesium, magnesium glycinate or aspartate seem to be well tolerated forms. > > Has anyone successfully given their child a supplement that deals > with muscle > > spasms? > > If they are neurological spasms, you can give minerals that are used > for nerve firing, including calcium and phosphorous. > > > > My son has improved so much since the enzymes but one of the > few things > > still noticeable is the facial and arm spasms when he gets excited. > > Are they spasms or stims? If they are stims, you can ignore them or > try redirection. > > > In > > addition to this he grinds his teeth (although I do know that this > goes away > > when he is not taking TMG - this however is not an option at the > moment). > > I have heard teeth grinding is a sign of mercury toxicity, have you > had your child's metals tested or are you chelating? > > Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2001 Report Share Posted September 24, 2001 I also use magnesium (mag citrate as Natural Calm) which helps with my muscle spasms, particular facial/head " tics. " If they are relatively serious, you might ask about a prescription med called Baclofen. I take it as needed now but did take it daily for over a year to help with the spasms and headpain. It is very effective and only makes you feel relaxed, not drugged out or spacey. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2001 Report Share Posted September 24, 2001 Thank you everyone for your thoughts on this matter. Very interesting that you virtually all came up with the same answers - so good enough for me !! On thinking about it is most certainly deficient of calcium, something I hadn't considered previously with all the other vitamins he is taking. (I have to be careful as his Dad gets a bit funny about us 'experimenting' on our boy even though he has seen dramatic improvements!). So I will certainly sneek some in for starters and see where we go from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2001 Report Share Posted September 24, 2001 > , > I have a group of symptoms that I call " brain symptoms. " They are a varying > combination of scalding/burning/stinging feelings just under my scalp as well > as sort of creepy-crawly sensations. Sometimes there is the accompanying > feeling of my head being squeezed in a vise. > > Do you have any similar symptoms? I was wondering if Baclofen might be > useful for me, as well, though I do generally avoid conventional medicines. > > n > Well you did not ask me, but I will say that I have these head pains also, and sometimes so bad it feels like my head will explode. I have traced my own problem to high phenols, here is my info on that. http://home.pacbell.net/cscomp/phenol.htm I have to avoid these foods like the plague, otherwise there have been days when I took a single sip of red grape juice [for example], and even 8-10 extra strength excedrin within a four-hour period did not help. My head pain will last for 2-3 days. Nasty stuff. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2001 Report Share Posted September 25, 2001 I was always told that muscle spasms could be due to insufficient magnesium. Many autistic children seem to be very deficient in this area. Janet M. [ ] Muscle spasms Has anyone successfully given their child a supplement that deals with muscle spasms? My son has improved so much since the enzymes but one of the few things still noticeable is the facial and arm spasms when he gets excited. In addition to this he grinds his teeth (although I do know that this goes away when he is not taking TMG - this however is not an option at the moment). Any help appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Any ideas if a lack of minerals can cause muscle spasms? Or what causes them at all? Not cramps, just spasms. Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiahttp://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.htmlaeranch@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 There are a ton of things that they say can cause muscle spasms.. lol Hope this info helps Most cases of simple cramps require no medical treatment. However, because cramps hurt, a person suffering a cramp will want to stop the cramp. An effective method for stopping a cramp involves contracting the muscle that causes the opposite action of the cramping muscle. This technique requires some training and knowledge of muscular anatomy, so it may be more effective if done by a therapist. Gently and gradually stretching and massaging the affected muscle may ease the pain and hasten recovery. A massage technique that can work is applying broad pressure on the cramping muscle. Applying ice can help if cramps persist. Fluid and salt replacement, by drinking water or properly prepared "sports drinks," and/or eating fruits and salads bearing sodium, potassium, magnesium, and calcium (bananas are a good source) can also help. Cramps may be treated or prevented with gingko (Ginkgo biloba) or Japanese quince (Chaenomeles speciosa). Supplements of vitamin B12, folate, vitamin E, niacin, calcium, and magnesium may also help. Taken at bedtime, they may help to reduce the likelihood of night cramps. Guided imagery, relaxation, and meditation may all help lessen the pain associated with muscle cramps and spasms and may also dissipate the cramp or spasm. Allopathic treatment More prolonged or regular cramps may be treated with drugs such as carbamazepine, phenytoin, or quinine. Treatment of underlying metabolic or neurologic disease, where possible, may help relieve symptoms. Identified anemia can be treated with iron supplementation. Gayla <aeranch@...> wrote: Any ideas if a lack of minerals can cause muscle spasms? Or what causes them at all? Not cramps, just spasms. Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiahttp://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.htmlaeranch@... Suzi List Owner health/ http://360./suziesgoats What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Thank you Suzi. Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiahttp://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.htmlaeranch@... Re: Muscle spasms There are a ton of things that they say can cause muscle spasms.. lol Hope this info helps Most cases of simple cramps require no medical treatment. However, because cramps hurt, a person suffering a cramp will want to stop the cramp. An effective method for stopping a cramp involves contracting the muscle that causes the opposite action of the cramping muscle. This technique requires some training and knowledge of muscular anatomy, so it may be more effective if done by a therapist. Gently and gradually stretching and massaging the affected muscle may ease the pain and hasten recovery. A massage technique that can work is applying broad pressure on the cramping muscle. Applying ice can help if cramps persist. Fluid and salt replacement, by drinking water or properly prepared "sports drinks," and/or eating fruits and salads bearing sodium, potassium, magnesium, and calcium (bananas are a good source) can also help. Cramps may be treated or prevented with gingko (Ginkgo biloba) or Japanese quince (Chaenomeles speciosa). Supplements of vitamin B12, folate, vitamin E, niacin, calcium, and magnesium may also help. Taken at bedtime, they may help to reduce the likelihood of night cramps. Guided imagery, relaxation, and meditation may all help lessen the pain associated with muscle cramps and spasms and may also dissipate the cramp or spasm. Allopathic treatment More prolonged or regular cramps may be treated with drugs such as carbamazepine, phenytoin, or quinine. Treatment of underlying metabolic or neurologic disease, where possible, may help relieve symptoms. Identified anemia can be treated with iron supplementation. Gayla <aeranch@...> wrote: Any ideas if a lack of minerals can cause muscle spasms? Or what causes them at all? Not cramps, just spasms. Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiahttp://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.htmlaeranch@... Suzi List Owner health/ http://360./suziesgoats What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Yes, and an overdose of minerals can cause them too. I would have to know the history of the person and what they eat and take everyday to get a clearer picture. Some vitamins can cause them as well. Janet From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Gayla Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 10:43 AM health Subject: Muscle spasms Any ideas if a lack of minerals can cause muscle spasms? Or what causes them at all? Not cramps, just spasms. Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html aeranchgmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Janet It is my back that is giving me fits. I have been taking loads of calcium and magnesium since my hip replacement. Plus C and Bs etc. What minerals will cause it? TIA! Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiahttp://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.htmlaeranch@... RE: Muscle spasms Yes, and an overdose of minerals can cause them too. I would have to know the history of the person and what they eat and take everyday to get a clearer picture. Some vitamins can cause them as well. Janet From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Gayla Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 10:43 AMhealth Subject: Muscle spasms Any ideas if a lack of minerals can cause muscle spasms? Or what causes them at all? Not cramps, just spasms. Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiahttp://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.htmlaeranchgmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Gayla, So sorry to hear of your back pain. I wish I had the mineral answer, but may try also curezone.com. Feel well. hugs, carol In health , " Gayla " <aeranch@...> wrote: > > Janet It is my back that is giving me fits. I have been taking loads of calcium and magnesium since my hip replacement. Plus C and Bs etc. What minerals will cause it? TIA! > Gayla > Always Enough Ranch > Acampo, California > http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html > aeranch@... > > Muscle spasms > > > > Any ideas if a lack of minerals can cause muscle spasms? Or what causes them at all? Not cramps, just spasms. > > Gayla > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Thanks Carol - I forgot about curezone. Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html aeranch@... Muscle spasms >> >> >> >> Any ideas if a lack of minerals can cause muscle spasms? Or what > causes them at all? Not cramps, just spasms. >> >> Gayla >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2007 Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 Janet, you nasty lady! <VBG> Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiahttp://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.htmlaeranch@... RE: Muscle spasms Gayla, perhaps stopping the calcium and magnesium for a few days would be wise here. Vitamins C and B’s are no problem, as your body will use what it needs and get rid of the extra. Minerals can build up, however, and if you get too much of one it will deplete some others. Potassium, magnesium, and calcium all have the potential to cause excess muscle spasms whether it is from deficiency (rare in the US) or overdose. If you eat plenty of leafy greens you should get plenty of minerals. Have a handful of nuts a day too. My other thought is that your back is adjusting to the way you are walking now. Your hip is different, so your back has to realign itself to your new posture. A good massage or maybe a chiropractor might be in order if we can’t get you more comfortable soon. Janet ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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