Acid/Alkaline balance

June 28, 2009

I find it funny how chlorophyll is identicle to our own hemoglobin!

The only difference is that we have iron in the middle of our chlorophyll

molecule and call hemoglobin.

Most health foods- chlorophyll is with copper in the middle of the molecule.

Chlorophyllin!

This is the hemoglobin for all living moluscs. including octopus, squid, clams,

muscle, snails, cucumbers, etc.

(Kind of scary knowing how closely related our hemoglobin is to a squid!)

The Calvin Cycle of chlorophyll consumes carbon dioxide.

The main reaction; eats CO2 and produces oxygen as chlorophyll goes to higher

energy states.

Also, great detox!

Bret

p> Here is a million dollar question!

p> What is it in foods that makes the color green?

p> or

p> What is the major ingredient common to spirulina / chlorella,

p> parsley, alfalfa/wheatgrass/ barely grass?

p> Anybody????? ???

June 29, 2009

There are similarities between heme and chlorophyll. Both are porphyrin

pigments. Heme is at the center of hemoglobin in animals and carries

oxygen. The globin part of the molecule carries carbon dioxide Heme

has 4 iron atoms attached and chlorophyll has 1 magnesium ion (not

copper). So, there is a broad similarity between heme and chlorophyll,

not between hemoglobin and chlorophyll. I know a lot of books on

nutrition state it in a way similar to what you have said. They are

not, technically, accurate. Copper chlorophyll is a synthetic product

used in the food industry.

Mike

Bret Peirce wrote:

>

> I find it funny how chlorophyll is identicle to our own hemoglobin!

> The only difference is that we have iron in the middle of our

> chlorophyll molecule and call hemoglobin.

>

> Most health foods- chlorophyll is with copper in the middle of the

> molecule. Chlorophyllin!

> This is the hemoglobin for all living moluscs. including octopus,

> squid, clams, muscle, snails, cucumbers, etc.

>

> (Kind of scary knowing how closely related our hemoglobin is to a squid!)

>

> The Calvin Cycle of chlorophyll consumes carbon dioxide.

> The main reaction; eats CO2 and produces oxygen as chlorophyll goes to

> higher energy states.

>

> Also, great detox!

>

> Bret

>

> p> Here is a million dollar question!

> p> What is it in foods that makes the color green?

> p> or

> p> What is the major ingredient common to spirulina / chlorella,

> p> parsley, alfalfa/wheatgrass/ barely grass?

> p> Anybody????? ???

>

June 29, 2009

Line 4 should read: " Heme has 1 iron ion bounded to 4 nitrogen atoms "

(Sorry)

Mike Golden wrote:

>

> There are similarities between heme and chlorophyll. Both are porphyrin

> pigments. Heme is at the center of hemoglobin in animals and carries

> oxygen. The globin part of the molecule carries carbon dioxide Heme

> has 4 iron atoms attached and chlorophyll has 1 magnesium ion (not

> copper). So, there is a broad similarity between heme and chlorophyll,

> not between hemoglobin and chlorophyll. I know a lot of books on

> nutrition state it in a way similar to what you have said. They are

> not, technically, accurate. Copper chlorophyll is a synthetic product

> used in the food industry.

>

> Mike

>

> Bret Peirce wrote:

> >

> > I find it funny how chlorophyll is identicle to our own hemoglobin!

> > The only difference is that we have iron in the middle of our

> > chlorophyll molecule and call hemoglobin.

> >

> > Most health foods- chlorophyll is with copper in the middle of the

> > molecule. Chlorophyllin!

> > This is the hemoglobin for all living moluscs. including octopus,

> > squid, clams, muscle, snails, cucumbers, etc.

> >

> > (Kind of scary knowing how closely related our hemoglobin is to a

> squid!)

> >

> > The Calvin Cycle of chlorophyll consumes carbon dioxide.

> > The main reaction; eats CO2 and produces oxygen as chlorophyll goes to

> > higher energy states.

> >

> > Also, great detox!

> >

> > Bret

> >

> > p> Here is a million dollar question!

> > p> What is it in foods that makes the color green?

> > p> or

> > p> What is the major ingredient common to spirulina / chlorella,

> > p> parsley, alfalfa/wheatgrass/ barely grass?

> > p> Anybody????? ???

> >

>

June 30, 2009

thanks for the distinctions!

Chlorophyllin is found in, major constituent of, resembles hemoglobin molusks!

From: Mike Golden <goldenmike@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Acid/Alkaline Balance

Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 7:44 AM

There are similarities between heme and chlorophyll. Both are porphyrin

pigments.

July 1, 2009

Hi Bret,

What sort of citrate would you recommend? How much does one take? Are there any

other precautions with it? thx

> ***

> All of these offer alkaline salts do raise ph of fluid and cytoplasm, but they

also bring additional oxygen with it. Citrate may in fact be the biggest oxygen

donor there is. Citrate salts do exist but you must shop around. Wikipedia will

even admit citrate can prevent fermentation and cancers need fermentation.

> ***

>

> Research has proven that high levels of citrate actually shuts down anaerobic

respiration cycle. You can not ferment glucose if citrate is high.

>

> So, why wouldn't I take citrate to augment my alkaline therapy?

> ***

>

> Bicarbonates do reduce the pp of CO2 no doubt this has been proven but inside

cancer cells sodium, magnesium, calcium do not enter cancer cells as these are

weak electron attractors and will not diffuse readily. Strong electron

attractors are potassium, rhubidium, cesium, zinc, silver, copper, selenium! (By

virtue of their molecular weight.) So, alkaline therapy for active disease must

NEVER focus on calcium and sodium as these do nothing to change the internal ph

of the cancer cell.

> So, if you are alkalizing by diet, you are not alkalizing fast, you are not

reaching its maximum therapeutic benefit, becasue who knows how many strong

metalic salts are actually in your diet. Your saliva ph may go higher but that

has very little to do with cellular ph of cancer, (Brewer,) and you will NEVER

reach maximum benefit if you leave out COq10, vitamin c, and oxygen donors out

of your protocol!!!

July 2, 2009

Citrate, as any oxygen donor, can cause loose stools.

Calcium citrate, 600mg 3x daily or

Potasium citrate as recommended x2 dosings.

zinc oxide is highly recommended 3x the recommended dose. Orally!

Can be given I.V. as several different citrates without the loose stools.

This should be done in for stage 4 cancers and practitioners wont be familiar

with this therapy. THere are protocols and it's a matter of finding qualified

medical professional to supply those protocols.

This is why a nurse advocate is incredibly valuable.

They can bring the protocol to any primary care doctor and he simply has to

write the order. The the nurse advocate can get home health to establish the

I.V. and set up the infusions.

Now, ascorbate infusions can be readily implemented as well. Then you are off to

the races. Then home health would have daily contact to monitor for side affects

and changes.

Inspect the i.v. port.

If you have a central line you can disconnect i.v. at your own convenience, go

to store or to doctor, take showers, etc.

Stage III i.v citrate/ascorbates are still recommended!

Stage II, not necessary.

> ***

> All of these offer alkaline salts do raise ph of fluid and cytoplasm, but they

also bring additional oxygen with it. Citrate may in fact be the biggest oxygen

donor there is. Citrate salts do exist but you must shop around. Wikipedia will

even admit citrate can prevent fermentation and cancers need fermentation.

> ***

>

> Research has proven that high levels of citrate actually shuts down anaerobic

respiration cycle. You can not ferment glucose if citrate is high.

>

> So, why wouldn't I take citrate to augment my alkaline therapy?

> ***

>

> Bicarbonates do reduce the pp of CO2 no doubt this has been proven but inside

cancer cells sodium, magnesium, calcium do not enter cancer cells as these are

weak electron attractors and will not diffuse readily. Strong electron

attractors are potassium, rhubidium, cesium, zinc, silver, copper, selenium! (By

virtue of their molecular weight.) So, alkaline therapy for active disease must

NEVER focus on calcium and sodium as these do nothing to change the internal ph

of the cancer cell.

> So, if you are alkalizing by diet, you are not alkalizing fast, you are not

reaching its maximum therapeutic benefit, becasue who knows how many strong

metalic salts are actually in your diet. Your saliva ph may go higher but that

has very little to do with cellular ph of cancer, (Brewer,) and you will NEVER

reach maximum benefit if you leave out COq10, vitamin c, and oxygen donors out

of your protocol!!!

January 22, 2010

In general grains are gluten free and alkaline in their sprouted states...in

addition they are powerhouses of minerals and enzymes -hence the beauty of

sprouts. One of the biggest grain misconceptions re the grain sprouts is that

the multitudes who have wheat allergies/ reactions will have problems w/

sprouts-wheat grass juice. The fact is, as mentioned, that the sprout is gluten

free and as such should not cause any gluten allergic reactions. In addition,

they are chlorophyll rich green, and as such are very alkalizing to the body and

help with body cleansing and healing. It is generally only when the grains

mature and become glutenous, and are processed and baked into non living, energy

stealing entities that you have issues.

From: b.coole@...

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 03:08:40 +0000

Subject: Acid/Alkaline Balance

Do sprouted grains like rye acidify or alkalinize the body?

January 22, 2010

Thanks for the link....there is an ongoing debate on gluten tolerance in grain

sprouts/ wheatgrass juice and celiac disease....I have celiac disease friends on

both sides of the fence...although those who truly follow a strict vegan diet

tend not to have issues w/ wheatgrass .... I guess if I was dealing with the

disease, I would do a strict illimination diet to see what I was sensitive to,

and/ or attempt to stay away from all grains- sprouted or unsprouted...you can

meet all your nutritional needs without grains- although it's not an easy diet

if you love the grains...once again, the verdict is still out, and there is no

hard fast conclusion here...and I don't claim to be an expert ..... merely

working w/ years of nutritional research and experimentation......but I guess I

got away from the original question re: the acidity vs. alkalinity of

sprouts....and generally speaking sprouted green, chlopophyll rich sprouts are

alkaline. Sorry for any confusion, and keep on researching to death!!!

From: nicolajh@...

Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 04:50:23 +0000

Subject: Re: Acid/Alkaline Balance

,

I think you're right about wheatgrass, but I think this is a potentially

dangerous myth about sprouted grains. For those of us who don't have celiac

disease, my own sense is that sprouted wheat is healthier than unsprouted as you

say. But for those who have celiac disease, what you say doesn't ring true and

here is a reference:

From http://tinyurl.com/yd4tax5

The following was written by D. Kasarda who is a research chemist in the

Crop Improvement and Utilization Research Unit of the United States Department

of Agriculture. If you have any questions or comments regarding the piece, you

can address them to Don at: kasarda@....

Most sprouted wheat still has gluten or gluten peptides remaining. Although the

sprouting begins enzymatic action that starts to break down the gluten (a

storage protein for the plant) into peptides and even amino acids. Generally

this is not a complete process for sprouts used in foods so some active peptides

(active in celiac disease) remain.

Best wishes,

Nicola

>

> In general grains are gluten free and alkaline in their sprouted states...in