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Hello,

I would like some opinions about the accuracy of the expiration date of herbal formulas.

I have 2 bottles. One expired in 2006 and the other in February of this year. Both are ayurvedic formulas, were already open, but I kept them in the refrigerator and both seem to be ok.

What do you think? Can I still take them?

Thanks,

Rena

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Oh, I forgot to say that they were capsules.

expiration datehealth Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 12:29 PM

Hello,

I would like some opinions about the accuracy of the expiration date of herbal formulas.

I have 2 bottles. One expired in 2006 and the other in February of this year. Both are ayurvedic formulas, were already open, but I kept them in the refrigerator and both seem to be ok.

What do you think? Can I still take them?

Thanks,

Rena

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and much more difficult in many ways.

These are ayurvedic formulas and I don't have any idea where to find these herbs. One is for cleansing liver, the other for the kidneys, the other for helping eliminate mucus and the other for bowels.

I want to see if taking these I can help my system. I have been trying to eliminate some ovarian cysts which are filled with mucus. There's some stagnation. I eat well and I have been fasting regularly. Everything I do produces some improvement, but the main problem persists. So I keep trying and trying different avenues.

Rena

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"Oh, I forgot to say that they were capsules."

Well, they may appear "ok" but they are likely not effective past the expiration. I'd toss them and get some fresh ones!

What are the capsules for? Have you tried making your own herbal preparations? It's more fun, fresher and more effective.

:o)

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In my experience with encapsulated dry herbs, if they expired

recently, such as within 6 months, and have been kept in a cool dry

place, they will only lose some of their potentcy. They would be safe

to take, you would only have to take more for them to work.

> Hello,

>

> I would like some opinions about the accuracy of the expiration date

of herbal formulas.

> I have 2 bottles. One expired in 2006 and the other in February of

this year. Both are ayurvedic formulas, were already open, but I kept

them in the refrigerator and both seem to be ok.

> What do you think? Can I still take them?

> Thanks,

> Rena

>

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Thanks a lot for the info. I already tried the herbs that you mentioned and although they helped some, I need something else so I'm going to try these formulas.

Rena

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"Oh, I forgot to say that they were capsules."

Well, they may appear "ok" but they are likely not effective past the expiration. I'd toss them and get some fresh ones!

What are the capsules for? Have you tried making your own herbal preparations? It's more fun, fresher and more effective.

:o)

Connie

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www.LostRiverNatura ls.com

Handcrafted, Homemade

Organic Herbal Goodness

$35 One Hour Massage

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Rena,

how long and at what strengh?

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From: evergreengarden <evergreengarden@...>Subject: Re: expiration datehealth Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 6:30 PM

Thanks a lot for the info. I already tried the herbs that you mentioned and although they helped some, I need something else so I'm going to try these formulas.

Rena

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Dear Karin,

 

THANK YOU for your input regarding the 'sell date'.

A distributer of the milk places a sell by date on the milk. Then it is sold to

the grocery store. The grocery store does not sell it beyond that sell

date. But the milk does not expire the moment it is first sold from the

distributer to the grocery store.

That is the language that I am not accepting. 

 

I ahd to re-read what awas posted and written in the Reference # 2, and then

what you wrote for me  to 'get it'; the author wrote the last day it is sold or

to be sold determined by the manufacture. In this case the distributer of milk.

 

THANK YOU for your post as it made me re-read and realize that the author wrote

the last day not the first day.

 

So therefore the author: Noah Riefman is correct in that quote.

By the way I defintiltly have recommended his book for years and is the first

person to ever make such a book for techs to use to study for the PTCB exam..

 

Respectfully,

 

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

Founder/Owner

    

      

      GLAD to hear you checked out one of my TUTORIALS!!!

I rarely hear feedback from them. While I gather from many that  they have used

the site, I rarely get a feedback about the tutorials or a specific one. So I am

thrilled to read that you went to the tutorials and read, understood and made

use of the tutorial on Expired Meds.

Regarding your References #1 and #2

Reference #1 is correct in its description of what is important to know about

dispensing drugs with approaching expiration dates.

However it does not have enough specific information that would be asked of you

on a PTCB exam.  Allow me to give you an example of wht it is refering to:

The Rx you wish to fill is: Take one tablet four times a day for 10 days. This

would be a total of 40 tabs and the apatientmust take them over a period of 10

days.  Let us say that todays date is March 27, 2010 and the mfg exp date on the

bottle is: March 2010, which means March 30, 2010 .

To some this means if you dispense a drug before the exp date, then it is okay.

BUT GOOD PHARMACY PRACTICE would dictate that you do NOT dispense this drug,

because on the 6th day of the regimen will be April 1, 2010 and the drug will be

expired.  This is WHY most pharmacies 'pull outdates' from the shelf at least

one month before expiration. By the way it is the technicians duty or

responsibility to pull the outdates. However it is the responsibility of the RPh

to be sure it is done overall. Both are at fault if this is not done.

The following from #2 makes NO sense to me:

" The expiration date of a medicinal product is the last date of SALE as

determined by the manufacturer. "

If the above were truen then WHO could use this product after the sale of the

drug from the mfg to the pharmacy? WHAT pharmacy could resell an expired drug?

Makes NO sense and I wish to know what book has printed this? What author?

However the nexts part of this Ref #2 is correct:

" If the expiration date on a product states only the month and year (e.g., 3/04)

then this infers that the drug expires the last day of that month (midnight

3/31/2004). "

Reference #1 and part of #2 do not conflict. However the two statements of Part

of #2 seem to conflict with me. I am asking/calling upon all TEXPERTS and

Pharmacists toshed any light on the statement about a drug expiring with its

last sale from the mfg.  Again it makes no sense to me. Further in all my 25 +

years in Pharmacy  I have never heard of that.

Some pharmacies will pull outdates three months before just to be sure/safe. It

is also possible that VERY EXPENSIVE drugs might stay on the shelf up until the

very last day with an excellant inventory and tracking method, while pharmacy

personel are waiting/hoping that the $$$ drug will get used/prescribed for

before its expiration date.

YES some suppliers have a credit return policy or program for expired drugs.

I am glad the tutorial helped you. Thank you for sharing how the tutorial has

helped you to better understand what is written in your books.

Respectfully,

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

Pharm Tech Educator

Founder/Owner

NOTE: All that is written on this site by Jeanetta Mastron is considered

copyrighted. Internet information may be free to use and to know, but it is not

free for printing, publishing or reprinting in other works, other than for your

own personal use.

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