Re: diagnosed with ms

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>...Im fairly active and a nonsmoker)only to be diagnosed with MS. >

>Any advice or experience would be appreciated.

>Barb

Hi Barb -- I've been reading a lot about Vit D deficiency these days, and have seen MS come up in relation to that... you might want to research it further, and have your doc check your Vit D levels? There are also one or two (at least) MS disc groups at -- I was looking in to it for friends a couple years ago, and found a lot of info there. And, there was a website I came across while looking up Co Q10 information -- about a researcher who learned it was very good for nerve issues and the myelin sheath that's effected (he went on to use it with cancer before he passed away, so maybe the nerve thing wasn't explored enough), so there's another area to research... M

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I've also seen Virgin Coconut Oil mentioned whenever someone is asking about MS. It has medium chain fatty acids, and helps rebuild the myelin sheath on nerve endings also.

HTH~

Jan

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There are also some people who claim MS is a disguised form of Lyme disease. The bacteria that can cause Lyme's will appear to the drs in many ways.

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re: diagnosed with ms

>...Im fairly active and a nonsmoker)only to be diagnosed with MS. >>Any advice or experience would be appreciated.>Barb Hi Barb -- I've been reading a lot about Vit D deficiency these days, and have seen MS come up in relation to that... you might want to research it further, and have your doc check your Vit D levels? There are also one or two (at least) MS disc groups at -- I was looking in to it for friends a couple years ago, and found a lot of info there. And, there was a website I came across while looking up Co Q10 information -- about a researcher who learned it was very good for nerve issues and the myelin sheath that's effected (he went on to use it with cancer before he passed away, so maybe the nerve thing wasn't explored enough), so there's another area to research...

M

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Good article regarding dietary changes for people who have MS, or any

inflammatory or autoimmune condition:

NUTRITIONAL AND SUPPLEMENT STRATEGIES FOR INFLAMMATORY AND AUTOIMMUNE

CONDITIONS

- by Donia Alawi, Health Teacher and Nutritionist

I. REMOVE OFFENDING " TRIGGER " FOODS:

& #9679; Remove strong acid producing foods. Examples are beef, chicken

and pork. If you must eat any of these meats, at least reduce the

amounts significantly.

& #9679; Remove all dairy products (cheese and milk). These are also acid

producing foods. If you cannot avoid them, then buy goat-based cheese

(the soft kind) or raw goat milk.

& #9679; Avoid grains that are considered high-glycemic foods. Examples

are corn chips, instant processed grain mixes (i.e., puffed wheat),

cakes, pies, pastry, processed breakfast cereals, instant grain

cereals, white rice, white flour and white flour pastas.

& #9679; Avoid breads containing yeast. It may be prudent to consume types

of bread made from whole rye and leavened with lactobacillus.

& #9679; Remove hydrogenated oils and margarine from your diet. Use

coconut butter or oil (not processed) for cooking. Use extra virgin

olive oil or raw butter for any cold spreads.

& #9679; Avoid non-foods (i.e., salt, alcohol, artificial sweeteners,

coffee, tea, soft drinks, ....etc.).

& #9679; Avoid soy products, except for fermented soy products (miso,

tamari sauce, and tempeh).

II. YOUR DAILY ANTI-INFLAMMATORY DIET - FOR THE FIRST 14 DAYS:

Klapper, M.D., recommends this strict diet for the first 14

days. Eat only (in unlimited amounts):

A) Brown rice and sweet potatoes (for energy and protein).

Green and yellow vegetables (for vitamins and minerals).

C) Non-citrus fruits (for vitamins, minerals and fiber).

D) Vegetable soups, broth, and fresh vegetable juices.

E) Ample pure water, at least a 6 oz. glass every 1-2 hours.

Reconstruct your diet after 14 days with " safe " foods. You can add

oily fish, such as salmon, halibut or cod, soft goat cheeses, citrus

fruits, all types of vegetables, nuts, seeds...etc.

When you add such foods back to your diet, it is a good idea to add

one food at a time, every two days. You need to observe carefully any

effects on your joints and other tissues while keeping a food diary to

record your body's reaction (if any) to each single reintroduced food.

Note any food that incites swelling, stiffness, pain in joints, or

other adverse bodily reactions within 2 days. As your list of " safe

foods " grows, base your daily meal choices on foods that cause no

problems and that make you feel your best.

III. REPAIR " LEAKY " GUT:

A) Friendly Bacteria supplementation:

Lynne McFarland, Ph.D., from the Department of Medicinal Chemistry at

the University of Washington School of Medicine in Seattle, WA.,

reported that oral supplementation of friendly bacteria such as

acidophilus (http://tinyurl.com/24ajq) and bifidus

(http://tinyurl.com/26rur) can help recolonize the intestinal tract

with good bacteria which can then force out toxic bacteria (Bland,

Genetic....p. 133).

One of the best friendly bacteria products in the market today is a

wide-spectrum friendly bacteria supplement micro-blended with

fructo-oligosaccharides. Following are its ingredients:

Lactobacillus acidophilus DDS-1, Bifidobacterium bifidum,

Lactobacillus bulgaricus, Lactobacillus casei, Lactobacillus

plantarum, Lactobacillus salivarius, Streptococcus faecium,

Streptococcus thermophilus, Acerola and Rose Hips blend, wild blue

green algae, Jerusalem Artichoke, Lipase, Amylase, Protease, and

Cellulase (http://tinyurl.com/6gzqa).

Enzyme Therapy:

Digestive enzyme therapy is used to improve the breakdown and

assimilation of food nutrients, reduce stress on the gastrointestinal

mucous, help maintain normal body pH levels, detoxify the body,

promote the growth of healthy intestinal flora, and strengthen the

body as a whole.

Systemic enzyme therapy is used to reduce inflammation and stimulate

the immune system. Enzymes improve circulation, help speed tissue

repair, bring nutrients to the damaged area, and remove waste products.

One of the best enzyme products in the market today is a wide-spectrum

blend of 13 active enzymes with digestive-enhancing ingredients such

as blue green algae (high mineral food), fennel, ginger and cayenne

pepper (http://tinyurl.com/ey8l).

C) High quality dietary fiber:

To maintain intestinal hygiene, you need about 35 to 40 grams of

different fiber sources everyday (i.e., bran, cellulose, lignin,

pectin, etc.), all found in different organically grown, ripe seasonal

fruits, seeds, whole grains, and vegetables. Dietary fiber helps

improve the production of short-chain fatty acids (SCFAs). Dietary

fiber is fermented into SCFAs by friendly bacteria like acidophilus

and bifidus. One of the best fiber sources is from brown rice and it

has no adverse reactions in the intestinal tract. Rice has both the

insoluble and soluble fiber, which friendly bacteria ferment to SCFAs.

SCFAs nourishes the critical intestinal lining.

Another source of good fiber is flax seed. Besides being a

well-rounded source of both the insoluble and soluble fibers, flax

contains another component called lignans. Lignans have

antibacterial, antifungal, and antiviral properties (grind flax seed

immediately just before you eat it).

IV. ENHANCE NATURAL ANTI-INFLAMMATORY PROCESSES THROUGH WHOLE FOOD

SUPPLEMENTS:

A) Wild-crafted organic blue Green Algae:

A specific amino acid, L-glutamine, is found to reduce inflammation.

According to Wilmore, M.D., a trauma care surgeon at Harvard

Medical School, the amino acid L-glutamine improves intestinal

function and can help preserve the gut lumen and heal a leaky gut

(Bland, Genetic, p. 135).

One of the most amazing foods high in L-glutamine is wild-crafted

organic blue green algae from Upper Klamath Lake, Oregon

http://tinyurl.com/g1iz and http://tinyurl.com/iw4k). It is nearly

two-thirds protein which is an unusually high proportion, particularly

for a " plant " food. Dietarily essential amino acids compose 49.1% and

non dietarily essential amino acids compose 50.9%. Supplementing with

4 capsules a day gives the body 78 mg. of L. Glutamine. High amounts

of blue green algae are needed to promote healing of a leaky gut.

In addition, wild-crafted organic blue green algae provides the

vitamins and minerals that can put messages of inflammation to sleep.

For example, blue green algae is high in vitamin B-complex, including

vitamin B3 or niacinamide. B3 can prevent inflammation by reducing

immune system activation and the resulting oxidant stress, which

ultimately produces the pain, swelling, redness and tissue destruction

of arthritis (p. 137).

Virgin coconut oil:

Coconut oil can reduce inflammation. In a study reported by Dr. S.

Sadeghi, coconut oil decreased pro-inflammatory chemicals in the body.

The researcher suggested that coconut oil might be useful in

therapies involving a number of acute and chronic inflammatory

diseases (Sadeghi, S. et al, 1999, dietary lipids modify the cytokine

response to bacterial lipopolysaccharide in mice. Immunology

96(3):404).

Coconut oil has strong antimicrobial effects and can eliminate harmful

and toxic organisms and therefore can prevent/relieve the inflammation

and pain they cause.

To get a therapeutic benefit from consuming coconut oil, 3½

tablespoons is the recommended daily intake. You can also incorporate

more coconut meat and milk into your diet. For example, seven ounces

of dried coconut provides 3½ tablespoons of oil.

C) Wheat Sprouts:

Wheat sprouts as a whole food supplement provides one of the most

potent antioxidant enzymes to fight inflammation; superoxide dismutase

(SOD). Since SOD requires copper and zinc as cofacters to initiate

maximum effectiveness, a whole food supplement that combines other

foods high in minerals would be the best type of supplement. We

recommend a whole food antioxidant made of organic wheat sprouts,

organic blue green algae and red beta algae (dunaliella salina)

(http://tinyurl.com/6vxtu).

D) Turmeric and Ginger:

Take turmeric powder internally as an anti-inflammatory food. Taken

internally, turmeric can inhibit TNF which is a chemical mediator of

inflammation. Take one teaspoon three times daily with or without

meals. Best taken at bed time.

Ginger is considered an important anti-pain and anti-inflammation food

in the very old Ayurvedic and Tibb system of medicine in India. Buy

organic ginger powder and start by taking a heaping teaspoon per day.

Mix the ginger with your favorite beverage. Or if you don't mind the

taste, mix it in water (ideal way of taking it).

SUPPORT YOUR BODY'S OWN REPAIR SYSTEM:

Feed, support and regenerate the stem cells you already have - your

OWN stem cells that are naturally occurring in your body. All stem

cells are capable of dividing and renewing themselves for long periods

of time, and they can give rise to specialized cells. According to the

National Institutes of Health, stem cells have the remarkable

potential to develop into many different cell types in the body. When

a stem cell divides, each new cell has the potential to either remain

a stem cell or become another type of cell with a more specialized

function, such as a muscle cell, a red blood cell, a skin cell, etc.

When released, new stem cells work on problem areas of the body that

often arise as we grow older. Serving as a repair system for the body,

stem cells can theoretically divide without limit to replenish other

cells as long as a person or animal is alive. This all natural

product increases the growth of your own existing stem cells and helps

protect them from free radicals (http://tinyurl.com/2f7t3w).

NUTRITION AND THE INFLAMMATION PROCESS:

Your first course of action might be to utilize the above recommended

dietary changes and whole food supplements. Look for ways as to how

your diet and lifestyle can interrelate to reduce the outcome of

inflammation. By modifying your diet and lifestyle, you may be able

to realize considerable improvements in your body's immune system

function and thereby lower the level of " alarm substances " traveling

in your bloodstream that trigger inflammation.

References:

The 20-day Rejuvenation Diet Program - Bland

Genetic Nutritioneering - Bland

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I am currently taking the complete nutrition amd some cayenne each day. I am also going to add the Nerve formula to help this "major blowout" of my mylalin. Any other recommendations of daily or temporary herbs would be great.

Barb

Re: diagnosed with ms

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ok this is a new one for me... mylalin... is that the nerve covering? What do you mean by blow out? Nerve formula is good for calming nerves. Complete tonic would also be good for everyday... and with tumeric in it it calms inflamation.

Suzi

I am currently taking the complete nutrition amd some cayenne each day. I am also going to add the Nerve formula to help this "major blowout" of my mylalin. Any other recommendations of daily or temporary herbs would be great.

Barb

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yes, the nerve covering. With ms it destroys it. Right now I'm in phyical therapy 4 times a week due to weakness on my right side. Of course my muscles are still there, but my brain isnt connecting. Its like I'm being rewired. The nerves have to find a new way to connect.

I hear coconut oil is really good for ms. I know somebody on this list has a good source for quality oil so hoping they can pass it along.

I'm getting better each day and hopefully the ms meds will stop me from getting further symptoms, I hate the idea of interferon drugs but I dont want to ever go thru this again. I just want to do all I can to help my situation.

thanks so much.

Barb

Re: Re: diagnosed with ms

ok this is a new one for me... mylalin... is that the nerve covering? What do you mean by blow out? Nerve formula is good for calming nerves. Complete tonic would also be good for everyday... and with tumeric in it it calms inflamation.

Suzi

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>>>I hear coconut oil is really good for ms. I know somebody on this list has a good source for quality oil so hoping they can pass it along.<<<

A great source of Virgin Coconut Oil (IMO) is Tropical Traditions: http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/

HTH!

Jan

SAHM of 9, breastfeeding advocate

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You might consider nerve regenerative formula in the files under Dr and Schulz....

Eating healthy and staying active is good.

I believe that Tropical Tradition (i think that is the name) has quality coconut oil. i used to order manuka honey from them... Very good.

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From: barb g <themainers@...>Subject: Re: Re: diagnosed with mshealth Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 12:55 PM

yes, the nerve covering. With ms it destroys it. Right now I'm in phyical therapy 4 times a week due to weakness on my right side. Of course my muscles are still there, but my brain isnt connecting. Its like I'm being rewired. The nerves have to find a new way to connect.

I hear coconut oil is really good for ms. I know somebody on this list has a good source for quality oil so hoping they can pass it along.

I'm getting better each day and hopefully the ms meds will stop me from getting further symptoms, I hate the idea of interferon drugs but I dont want to ever go thru this again. I just want to do all I can to help my situation.

thanks so much.

Barb

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yes, I'm going to buy the herbs (anybody know where to buy Lady's Slipper?) from Mountain Rose this week.

Thanks for the sources for coconut oil( also thanks to Jan & Shari). I'll keep you posted... it's a weird desease.

Barb

Re: [HAWK_Health_ Awareness] Re: diagnosed with msHAWK_Health_ AwarenessDate: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 12:55 PM

yes, the nerve covering. With ms it destroys it. Right now I'm in phyical therapy 4 times a week due to weakness on my right side. Of course my muscles are still there, but my brain isnt connecting. Its like I'm being rewired. The nerves have to find a new way to connect.

I hear coconut oil is really good for ms. I know somebody on this list has a good source for quality oil so hoping they can pass it along.

I'm getting better each day and hopefully the ms meds will stop me from getting further symptoms, I hate the idea of interferon drugs but I dont want to ever go thru this again. I just want to do all I can to help my situation.

thanks so much.

Barb

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http://www.appalachia-adventures.com/wildherbs.htm is one place.

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From: barb g <themainers@...>Subject: Re: Re: diagnosed with mshealth Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 1:37 PM

yes, I'm going to buy the herbs (anybody know where to buy Lady's Slipper?) from Mountain Rose this week.

Thanks for the sources for coconut oil( also thanks to Jan & Shari). I'll keep you posted... it's a weird desease.

Barb