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I printed out this " Tough Love " too...its the first post going on my

door!

> > I don't know if this will help any, but when it comes to

> motivation,

> > I just plain don't give myself a choice. I dont' wake up and

> decide

> > I don't want to brush my teeth that day, or go to work that day,

> it's

> > just a given, barring something catastrophic. Same with working

> out,

> > there is NO option, no decision, I just do it. When I started

this

> > program I decided that I didn't want to do it half ass and be

> looking

> > back 3 months later saying, " Wow, what could I have done if I had

> > only put in 100% " .

> >

> > I'm 36 and in fabulous shape after 1.5 years of living this

> > lifestyle. What kills me is thinking where I would be if I had

done

> > this in my twenties. Quit wasting time. Quit making excuses.

Just

> > do it.

> >

> > Lynda

> > *sorry if anyone is offended by tough love. No, actually, I take

> that

> > back :)

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Or she found help with what you sent.Look on the brighter side.CE Grim MDOn Apr 26, 2009, at 5:17 AM, arthur springer wrote:Into each life a little tough love must fall. Sometimes that is exactly what people really need, however much they become indignant at the mere thought of being treated like anything less than fragile little flowers. I found that out in two ways this past week:First, I had almost forgotten that there is a simple solution whenever I begin to feel a little wobbly on the potassium front. But as I resume a much more active life, I think I may be burning up however much more potassium is floating around inside me because of the Inspra. So I reminded myself to pour some milk into the blender, peel a banana and drop that in, put the cap on, push the button, let it run for a minute, drink it down. And if I feel more than a little wobbly, I use orange juice instead of milk. That gives me 700 mg. of potassium in one delicious banana-orange smoothie. And it works. More than half the time. I don't know much about the metabolism of potassium, and why it may give me a bumpy ride now and then. A part of me doesn't want to know. But I know how to fix it. This works. Try it. Don't moan and groan your life away.A more difficult problem: I set out to help someone with what seemed to be a very difficult problem dealing with health coverage and access to quality care for a person with a disability. That's what I do. I'm an advocate for people with disabilities. I don't get paid for it. I learn what I need to know to lobby effectively for better health services for people with chronic, rare, disabling health problems. I don't get paid for that either.  Along the way, I help some people find what they need. I found two disability advocacy agencies within minutes of a particular person's home. A local phone call away. This individual had been posting horrifying accounts of desperate illness. So I sent this information to that individual quite a few days ago. Guess what? The horror stories stopped instantly. Everything stopped instantly. Not a word since then. Suddenly it hit me: Munchausen's Syndrome. You can look it up athttp://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=2561446 & blobtype=pdf.This is not a few paragraphs that can be dismissed lightly. Or angrily. It is a detailed scholarly report written in language anyone can understand. Two bits of tough love for this week: Stop flopping around like a fish out of water. Try a banana smoothie. And when you are hearing the next heartbreaking story of someone who has been screwed by the System and is desperately ill because of it, don't ask them for their life story. Because they will tell it. And tell it. And tell it. Offer some practical help. And if they  suddenly disappear, you may have learned something.============================================================================================ On Apr 25, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Clarence Grim wrote: Please get Guyton and Hall's Textbook of Medical Physiology from your local lib or invest in it yourself you can get old ones very cheap.Read the Chapters on the Regulation of the Circulation and Body Fluid Volumes.It will become clear to you that the only way to increase BP over the long hall-weeks+ is to eat more salt that your kidneys can get rid of.No salt no high blood pressure.FYI most Drs dont understand how to interpret "normal" renin and aldo. Please get the actual values and the "normal ranges".Also tell us how much salt you were eating when the test was done.What part of the menstrual cycle you were in.What time of day?How long you have been out of bed?What drugs etc you were taking at the time.And the results of the 24 hr urine collected on the day the renin and aldos were done.What is your ethnicity?  Renin levels are different in Blacks (lower and need different norms we think). On Apr 25, 2009, at 8:35 AM, dash wrote: Well I got a call yesterday, aldosteronin and renin? are "normal" and before I could ask numbers she said "I am transferring you to the appointment desk", click.  So I made an appointment for another two weeks.  She did not report to me about the potassium.  My BP is running about 142/85 probably average to 158/92 tops.   Am I running a really bad risk of stroke?    I ate at a friend's house on Wednesday.   I know she cooks with lower salt than most, but she uses a lot more than I do.  I held fluid and gained 4.5 pounds as the scale read the next day.  The day after that, having gone back to my own diet, the 4.5 pounds left.  However the blood pressure remained stable((((even with the weight gain which must have been edema although I didn't note any and it must have left because of dropping sodium again... I think))))and was I think about 150/83 or so.... so what would you think, if the alderstone test is correct?  My arteries are clear.  I am confused, what else would cause HBP and should I just go on some kind of BP medication that I have not been tried on, if the Doc can find any?    Anyway, I will be talking to the doctor in two weeks.  Any feed back?   dash  

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Is that a fact or your speculation?

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On Apr 26, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Clarence Grim wrote:

>

>

> Or she found help with what you sent.

>

> Look on the brighter side.

>

> CE Grim MD

> On Apr 26, 2009, at 5:17 AM, arthur springer wrote:

>

>> Into each life a little tough love must fall. Sometimes that is

>> exactly what people really need, however much they become indignant

>> at the mere thought of being treated like anything less than fragile

>> little flowers. 

>>

>> I found that out in two ways this past week:

>>

>> First, I had almost forgotten that there is a simple solution

>> whenever I begin to feel a little wobbly on the potassium front. But

>> as I resume a much more active life, I think I may be burning up

>> however much more potassium is floating around inside me because of

>> the Inspra. So I reminded myself to pour some milk into the blender,

>> peel a banana and drop that in, put the cap on, push the button, let

>> it run for a minute, drink it down. And if I feel more than a little

>> wobbly, I use orange juice instead of milk. That gives me 700 mg. of

>> potassium in one delicious banana-orange smoothie. And it works. More

>> than half the time. I don't know much about the metabolism of

>> potassium, and why it may give me a bumpy ride now and then. A part

>> of me doesn't want to know. But I know how to fix it. This works. Try

>> it. Don't moan and groan your life away.

>>

>> A more difficult problem: I set out to help someone with what seemed

>> to be a very difficult problem dealing with health coverage and

>> access to quality care for a person with a disability. That's what I

>> do. I'm an advocate for people with disabilities. I don't get paid

>> for it. I learn what I need to know to lobby effectively for better

>> health services for people with chronic, rare, disabling health

>> problems. I don't get paid for that either.  Along the way, I help

>> some people find what they need. I found two disability advocacy

>> agencies within minutes of a particular person's home. A local phone

>> call away. This individual had been posting horrifying accounts of

>> desperate illness. So I sent this information to that individual

>> quite a few days ago. Guess what? The horror stories stopped

>> instantly. Everything stopped instantly. Not a word since then.

>> Suddenly it hit me: Munchausen's Syndrome. You can look it up at

>> http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?

>> artid=2561446 & blobtype=pdf.

>> This is not a few paragraphs that can be dismissed lightly. Or

>> angrily. It is a detailed scholarly report written in language anyone

>> can understand. 

>>

>> Two bits of tough love for this week: Stop flopping around like a

>> fish out of water. Try a banana smoothie. And when you are hearing

>> the next heartbreaking story of someone who has been screwed by the

>> System and is desperately ill because of it, don't ask them for their

>> life story. Because they will tell it. And tell it. And tell it.

>> Offer some practical help. And if they  suddenly disappear, you may

>> have learned something.

>> ======================================================================

>> ====================== 

>>

>>

>> On Apr 25, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Clarence Grim wrote:

>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Please get Guyton and Hall's Textbook of Medical Physiology from

>>> your local lib or invest in it yourself you can get old ones very

>>> cheap.

>>>

>>> Read the Chapters on the Regulation of the Circulation and Body

>>> Fluid Volumes.

>>>

>>> It will become clear to you that the only way to increase BP over

>>> the long hall-weeks+ is to eat more salt that your kidneys can get

>>> rid of.

>>>

>>> No salt no high blood pressure.

>>>

>>> FYI most Drs dont understand how to interpret " normal " renin and

>>> aldo. Please get the actual values and the " normal ranges " .

>>>

>>> Also tell us how much salt you were eating when the test was done.

>>> What part of the menstrual cycle you were in.

>>> What time of day?

>>> How long you have been out of bed?

>>>

>>> What drugs etc you were taking at the time.

>>>

>>> And the results of the 24 hr urine collected on the day the renin

>>> and aldos were done.

>>>

>>> What is your ethnicity?  Renin levels are different in Blacks (lower

>>> and need different norms we think).

>>>

>>>

>>>  

>>> On Apr 25, 2009, at 8:35 AM, dash wrote:

>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Well I got a call yesterday, aldosteronin and renin? are " normal "

>>>> and before I could ask numbers she said " I am transferring you to

>>>> the appointment desk " , click.  So I made an appointment for another

>>>> two weeks.  She did not report to me about the potassium.

>>

>>>>

>>>>  

>>>> My BP is running about 142/85 probably average to 158/92 tops. 

>>

>>>>

>>>>  

>>>> Am I running a really bad risk of stroke?  

>>

>>>>

>>>>  

>>>> I ate at a friend's house on Wednesday.   I know she cooks with

>>>> lower salt than most, but she uses a lot more than I do.  I held

>>>> fluid and gained 4.5 pounds as the scale read the next day.  The

>>>> day after that, having gone back to my own diet, the 4.5 pounds

>>>> left.  However the blood pressure remained stable((((even with the

>>>> weight gain which must have been edema although I didn't note any

>>>> and it must have left because of dropping sodium again... I

>>>> think))))and was I think about 150/83 or so.... so what would you

>>>> think, if the alderstone test is correct?

>>

>>>>

>>>>  

>>>> My arteries are clear.  I am confused, what else would cause HBP

>>>> and should I just go on some kind of BP medication that I have not

>>>> been tried on, if the Doc can find any?  

>>

>>>>

>>>>  

>>>> Anyway, I will be talking to the doctor in two weeks.  Any feed

>>>> back?   dash

>>

>>>>

>>>>  

>>>>

>>>

>

>

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We've all been screwed by the " system " in some ways or other.

The most creative answer was a Galveston county judge during hurricane

Katrina, " Don't expect the gov't to do for you what you can do better

yourself. " BTW, he is no longer the judge.

The trick is finding out what it is we need to do. And it keeps changing.

I ate a banana too, because I like bananas, but it didn't tell me anything.

Regards

RE: Tough Love

Arthur, you are the most pathetic one I've seen in a long time. So you

" fixed " your low K with a banana! You want a gold star or what? If you

don't want to read people's life stories, leave. No one needs you here.

Val

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[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of arthur springer

Into each life a little tough love must fall. Sometimes that is exactly what

people really need, however much they become indignant at the mere thought

of being treated like anything less than fragile little flowers.

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