Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Im going to try this one more time as I didnt get any replies the first time. We are looking at changing some of Sydnie's goals so that it meets her needs both in the reg classroom as well as her resource room. It struck me odd when her teacher said her goals in here are not the same as her goals in there....umm yeah I Think they are. But I think I know what she meant.....the work she does in there is a bit different than the extra help she's getting from resource. I think she should be working on the same stuff the class is working on when she's not in there. What are your thoughts? What are some good academic goals to add to the IEP....if they start pushing more hours in resource Im going to have to fight because Sydnie just goofs off in there.....in class she knows what is expected. Her asst right now (fill in) knows Sydnie doesnt do as well in resource why isnt anyone else listening? Our reg asst will be back from her 12 week leave the end of the month and she is very 1:1 with Sydnie and Sydnie isnt used to having someone hover over her. I mean realllllllly be on top of her at all times. So any we're going to really take a look at her goals and see what works best. Sydnie already hates the last hr in resource so now they are looking at putting the two hrs together????? Good luck with that! Im going with no increase cause its really going to piss her off being out of her reg class. I feel like ....HERE WE GO AGAIN~ May God Bless You As He Has Us ~Angie~ ~~DREAM BIG~~ An extra little chromosome, that's all it is, you see. Where all of you were born with two, She was blessed with three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Hi Angie, For us, goals are goals, and there are not different goals for the classroom and resource. She works on some goals primarily in resource (like math goals), and others wherever she is (reading comprehension, writing, social.... could be regular ed classroom, resource room, speech, OT). The Resource Teacher keeps track of 's IEP, and works with the classroom teacher and other specialists (if appropriate) on coordinating. You need to know who is in charge of the IEP, and how as a team they know who is responsible for each goal. 's work in Resource is not the same as her classroom work becuase if she could do the work that the class was doing, she'd be doing it in class with accomadations and support. For example, she's behind in math, so she's basically doing math at her pace, and being very successful. Last year was the last time we tried to have her do grade-level math by having extra support in the resource room in addition to the classroom, but math just got too much in 4th grade. So, RSP gives nightly math homework, and class does math while 's gone at resource, so it works for everyone. Other goals are worked on by the entire team... for example, we have a goal dealing with vocabulary words to help with reading comprehension, so the speech therapist has some " important " words that they work on as part of speech therapy (and are general and abstract.... more, less, better, worse, etc.... things that if you don't get it, make comprehending stories hard), the classroom teacher identifies vocab words critical to social studies and science, and the resource teacher works on the teacher-identified words in resource as part of comprehension work (so she's also getting science and/or social studies reading reinforced.) One goal, worked on by 3 different team members in 3 different settings. I was thinking about when you said she hates the 2nd hour of Resource... are you sure it's because it's the second amount of time she's there, or could it be what they are doing during this time, or other kids who are also there? Perhaps the reason she goofs off is that maybe she's thinking " yuk, another transition " and that it's in the afternoon, when kids tend to be more tired and less likely to comply. Maybe if she's there in only block, it will be better.... do you think that she has a good enough concept of time to know that she's in there longer? I would not assume it will be worse without trying it.... I think it would be hard to leave her (preferred) classroom twice a day, and maybe only leaving once will be better. If she's OK the first time, maybe it will just continue through the 2nd hour. If it doesn't then you could try something else. If it were my daughter, and I knew she didn't want to go twice, I'd make a big deal of " Oh, guess what, you are only going to go the the resouce room one time each day... wont' that be great! " and leave it at that... see what happens. In terms of the velcro 1:1 aide, I would talk to whomever is her supervisor (probably the resource teacher) and express your concerns about how she should assist Sydnie. No one wants to be hovered over, and the aide needs to be trained on how to step in when needed, and step back when Sydnie's doing fine without her. It took our 1:1 a bit of time to get this, but now she's really good at sitting in her desk, working on whatever she's doing, and just watching and monitering from 4 feet away (though this took time... she was more hovering in 1st grade, LOL) You will need to repeat this request often until the aide gets it, but it's less of a personal assault on her (because she's only doing it because she wants to help, and people don't take kindly to " you're being TOO helpful " ) if her supervisor mentions it too her... it's more like a " Oh, I noticed that Sydnie was doing really well on her map project today.... you could probably back off and give her some independence, since she was on task and coloring appropriately " Otherwise, it's an unappreciative mom complaining again, LOL. Good luck! angie wrote: > Im going to try this one more time as I didnt get any replies the > first time. We are looking at changing some of Sydnie's goals so that > it meets her needs both in the reg classroom as well as her resource room. > It struck me odd when her teacher said her goals in here are not the > same as her goals in there....umm yeah I Think they are. But I think I > know what she meant.....the work she does in there is a bit different > than the extra help she's getting from resource. I think she should be > working on the same stuff the class is working on when she's not in > there. What are your thoughts? > What are some good academic goals to add to the IEP....if they start > pushing more hours in resource Im going to have to fight because > Sydnie just goofs off in there.....in class she knows what is > expected. Her asst right now (fill in) knows Sydnie doesnt do as well > in resource why isnt anyone else listening? > Our reg asst will be back from her 12 week leave the end of the month > and she is very 1:1 with Sydnie and Sydnie isnt used to having someone > hover over her. I mean realllllllly be on top of her at all times. So > any we're going to really take a look at her goals and see what works > best. Sydnie already hates the last hr in resource so now they are > looking at putting the two hrs together????? Good luck with that! Im > going with no increase cause its really going to piss her off being > out of her reg class. > I feel like ....HERE WE GO AGAIN~ > May God Bless You As He Has Us > ~Angie~ > ~~DREAM BIG~~ > > An extra little chromosome, > that's all it is, you see. > Where all of you were born with two, > She was blessed with three. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Thats the way I thought it should be ...goals are goals you know? She even stated I know some of her goals but work with her on other stuff...sooooo...ugh I just felt like if she was out during math then she should be working on math in resource... Last year Sydnie was in resource for only one hour and before it was over she would say " Im ready to go back to my room now " Yes I believe it is because she's tired I also think she's bored in there. I dont have a real prob with trying the two full hours but dont know how she will keep her attention. The asst she normally has only knows 1:1...she was at the school we were at when Sydnie was in PreK....so all she knows is what a 1:1 does....not the let her do.....she doesnt have to be with her ALLLL the time. Ive even had to make a big deal out of ....DONT MEET HER AT THE CAR....thats ridiculous.....meet her down the hall...or at the corner going to class if you are THAT worried about it...but that was the teacher....so Ive stressed to her numerous times. soooo the one we have now...goes to church with us and I told her plenty of times.....she agrees that Sydnie is used to that independence..... She meets her down the hall or follows her in if Sydnie is ahead of her. Its just little things Ive had to get across to them....she doesnt need the constant monitoring....let her be!!!! No the resource teacher isnt her supervisor I would have to either get the teacher to tell her to back off or move on to someone else. Our asst will be back the end of this month and I'll have to start all over with getting her to understand. Sydnie's whole attitude has changed just since she's been gone...I started her on Omega 369.....wow what a diff lol I pray that all works out.....its stressful enough...especially when you think things are going fairly well...OH lets change it up a little YIKESSSSSSS...but no I do not want her out of that classroom. Did I mention NO? lol Thanks for getting back to me . May God Bless You As He Has Us ~Angie~ ~~DREAM BIG~~ An extra little chromosome, that's all it is, you see. Where all of you were born with two, She was blessed with three. Re: 1st grade IEP Hi Angie, For us, goals are goals, and there are not different goals for the classroom and resource. She works on some goals primarily in resource (like math goals), and others wherever she is (reading comprehension, writing, social.... could be regular ed classroom, resource room, speech, OT). The Resource Teacher keeps track of 's IEP, and works with the classroom teacher and other specialists (if appropriate) on coordinating. You need to know who is in charge of the IEP, and how as a team they know who is responsible for each goal. 's work in Resource is not the same as her classroom work becuase if she could do the work that the class was doing, she'd be doing it in class with accomadations and support. For example, she's behind in math, so she's basically doing math at her pace, and being very successful. Last year was the last time we tried to have her do grade-level math by having extra support in the resource room in addition to the classroom, but math just got too much in 4th grade. So, RSP gives nightly math homework, and class does math while 's gone at resource, so it works for everyone. Other goals are worked on by the entire team... for example, we have a goal dealing with vocabulary words to help with reading comprehension, so the speech therapist has some " important " words that they work on as part of speech therapy (and are general and abstract.... more, less, better, worse, etc.... things that if you don't get it, make comprehending stories hard), the classroom teacher identifies vocab words critical to social studies and science, and the resource teacher works on the teacher-identified words in resource as part of comprehension work (so she's also getting science and/or social studies reading reinforced.) One goal, worked on by 3 different team members in 3 different settings. I was thinking about when you said she hates the 2nd hour of Resource... are you sure it's because it's the second amount of time she's there, or could it be what they are doing during this time, or other kids who are also there? Perhaps the reason she goofs off is that maybe she's thinking " yuk, another transition " and that it's in the afternoon, when kids tend to be more tired and less likely to comply. Maybe if she's there in only block, it will be better.... do you think that she has a good enough concept of time to know that she's in there longer? I would not assume it will be worse without trying it.... I think it would be hard to leave her (preferred) classroom twice a day, and maybe only leaving once will be better. If she's OK the first time, maybe it will just continue through the 2nd hour. If it doesn't then you could try something else. If it were my daughter, and I knew she didn't want to go twice, I'd make a big deal of " Oh, guess what, you are only going to go the the resouce room one time each day... wont' that be great! " and leave it at that... see what happens. In terms of the velcro 1:1 aide, I would talk to whomever is her supervisor (probably the resource teacher) and express your concerns about how she should assist Sydnie. No one wants to be hovered over, and the aide needs to be trained on how to step in when needed, and step back when Sydnie's doing fine without her. It took our 1:1 a bit of time to get this, but now she's really good at sitting in her desk, working on whatever she's doing, and just watching and monitering from 4 feet away (though this took time... she was more hovering in 1st grade, LOL) You will need to repeat this request often until the aide gets it, but it's less of a personal assault on her (because she's only doing it because she wants to help, and people don't take kindly to " you're being TOO helpful " ) if her supervisor mentions it too her... it's more like a " Oh, I noticed that Sydnie was doing really well on her map project today.... you could probably back off and give her some independence, since she was on task and coloring appropriately " Otherwise, it's an unappreciative mom complaining again, LOL. Good luck! angie wrote: Im going to try this one more time as I didnt get any replies the first time. We are looking at changing some of Sydnie's goals so that it meets her needs both in the reg classroom as well as her resource room. It struck me odd when her teacher said her goals in here are not the same as her goals in there....umm yeah I Think they are. But I think I know what she meant.....the work she does in there is a bit different than the extra help she's getting from resource. I think she should be working on the same stuff the class is working on when she's not in there. What are your thoughts? What are some good academic goals to add to the IEP....if they start pushing more hours in resource Im going to have to fight because Sydnie just goofs off in there.....in class she knows what is expected. Her asst right now (fill in) knows Sydnie doesnt do as well in resource why isnt anyone else listening? Our reg asst will be back from her 12 week leave the end of the month and she is very 1:1 with Sydnie and Sydnie isnt used to having someone hover over her. I mean realllllllly be on top of her at all times. So any we're going to really take a look at her goals and see what works best. Sydnie already hates the last hr in resource so now they are looking at putting the two hrs together????? Good luck with that! Im going with no increase cause its really going to piss her off being out of her reg class. I feel like ....HERE WE GO AGAIN~ May God Bless You As He Has Us ~Angie~ ~~DREAM BIG~~ An extra little chromosome, that's all it is, you see. Where all of you were born with two, She was blessed with three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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