Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 One of my friends has his new book about weightloss, she's only on the 2nd or 3rd chapter, but apparently Dr. Phil is coming out with a line of meal replacement shakes and bars to go along with his weightloss plan. They're called (or are going to be called) Shape Up. I plan to watch the interview tonight. Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 ---I don't get it..how does that affect his credibility? I am a bit confused..anyone want to clear this up for me..lol Kathi In , " *~Beth~* " <saremca@a...> wrote: > The bars are already available at Walgreens. > > http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jhtml? PRODID=396707 & CATID=100984 > > I actually like Dr. Phil. But I think it's a little weird for him to come > out with a " line " of weightloss products. It sort of affects his > credibility, IMO. > > Beth > ----- Original Message ----- > Dr. Phil shakes and bars?!?! Oh, no, I hope that's not the case. I would > lose a lot of respect for him if he did that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 I think him coming out with bars and shakes just shows that he's in it for the money like everyone else. What does being a psychologist have to do with bars and shakes? At least someone like Dr. Atkins and Bill made weight loss and writing books about it their entire business, so the bars/shakes made some sense. But Dr. Phil? Yeah, he's becoming a brand, and to me that makes him lose credibility as a psychologist. Devyn > > > One of my friends has his new book about weightloss, she's only > on > > the 2nd > > > or 3rd chapter, but apparently Dr. Phil is coming out with a line > > of meal > > > replacement shakes and bars to go along with his weightloss > plan. > > They're > > > called (or are going to be called) Shape Up. > > > > > > I plan to watch the interview tonight. > > > > > > Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 --- I still don't get it. why not reap the rewards for being such a great psychologist to many? I don't know..I just don't see a problem. he has to make a living too. maybe he likes to make bars and shakes..I don't know. maybe he likes to cook. You still believe in him..don't loose your respect for him and support because he is doing something others have done. He still helps you out alot right? He just doesn't seem like one to me to be just out to be rich and not help others...even though I just don't always agree with him. and if those bars and shakes are good..hey..why not buy them..lol..we are always looking for nice bars and shakes. maybe they will be a good addition to our life. I just think it is a small thing to worry about. okay..I am really gonna shut my mouth now. boy..what has gotten into me..I am not always this opinionated..please forgive me..I am learning some assertiveness in my life I have never had. I have not quite mastered it yet..lol. Kathi In , " Devyn D. " <dancing_devyn@y...> wrote: > I think him coming out with bars and shakes just shows that he's in > it for the money like everyone else. What does being a psychologist > have to do with bars and shakes? At least someone like Dr. Atkins > and Bill made weight loss and writing books about it their > entire business, so the bars/shakes made some sense. But Dr. Phil? > Yeah, he's becoming a brand, and to me that makes him lose > credibility as a psychologist. > > Devyn > > > > > > One of my friends has his new book about weightloss, she's only > > on > > > the 2nd > > > > or 3rd chapter, but apparently Dr. Phil is coming out with a > line > > > of meal > > > > replacement shakes and bars to go along with his weightloss > > plan. > > > They're > > > > called (or are going to be called) Shape Up. > > > > > > > > I plan to watch the interview tonight. > > > > > > > > Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 I think I agree with Kathi on this one. I can't see anything wrong with Dr. Phil having shakes and bars if they go along with his book. If someone would buy products with my name on them, I would sure put my name on some, provided it was a product I believed in! Thats just being a smart business person. Re: Dr. Phil I think him coming out with bars and shakes just shows that he's in it for the money like everyone else. What does being a psychologist have to do with bars and shakes? At least someone like Dr. Atkins and Bill made weight loss and writing books about it their entire business, so the bars/shakes made some sense. But Dr. Phil? Yeah, he's becoming a brand, and to me that makes him lose credibility as a psychologist. Devyn > > > One of my friends has his new book about weightloss, she's only > on > > the 2nd > > > or 3rd chapter, but apparently Dr. Phil is coming out with a line > > of meal > > > replacement shakes and bars to go along with his weightloss > plan. > > They're > > > called (or are going to be called) Shape Up. > > > > > > I plan to watch the interview tonight. > > > > > > Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Don't apologize, Kathi. I enjoy reading your posts. In most cases they agree with mine. You seem to be a very " to each his own " thinker and don't try to force your opinions on other people. (Stating them is not forcing ;-) Re: Dr. Phil --- I still don't get it. why not reap the rewards for being such a great psychologist to many? I don't know..I just don't see a problem. he has to make a living too. maybe he likes to make bars and shakes..I don't know. maybe he likes to cook. You still believe in him..don't loose your respect for him and support because he is doing something others have done. He still helps you out alot right? He just doesn't seem like one to me to be just out to be rich and not help others...even though I just don't always agree with him. and if those bars and shakes are good..hey..why not buy them..lol..we are always looking for nice bars and shakes. maybe they will be a good addition to our life. I just think it is a small thing to worry about. okay..I am really gonna shut my mouth now. boy..what has gotten into me..I am not always this opinionated..please forgive me..I am learning some assertiveness in my life I have never had. I have not quite mastered it yet..lol. Kathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 There's nothing wrong with having a difference of opinion, Kathi! Don't apologize for that. ) Beth ----- Original Message ----- okay..I am really gonna shut my mouth now. boy..what has gotten into me..I am not always this opinionated..please forgive me..I am learning some assertiveness in my life I have never had. I have not quite mastered it yet..lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 respect him or not did you guys notice the first few ingredients on these bars: Syrup Blend , Corn Syrup , Peanut Butter , Sugar , Hydrogenated Starch , High Fructose Corn Syrup , Salt , Lecithin , Natural Flavor , Carrageenan , Crisps , Soy Protein YUK! notice how far you have to go before you even get to any real protein. > The bars are already available at Walgreens. > > http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jhtml? PRODID=396707 & CATID=100984 > > I actually like Dr. Phil. But I think it's a little weird for him to come > out with a " line " of weightloss products. It sort of affects his > credibility, IMO. > > Beth > ----- Original Message ----- > Dr. Phil shakes and bars?!?! Oh, no, I hope that's not the case. I would > lose a lot of respect for him if he did that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 i've seen em. i dismissed them immediately because the ratios were wrong for me. they sell them at wallgreens. http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jhtml?PRODID=399267 & CATID=100984 his pills are based on first determining what type of body shape you have (apple, pear, etc.) and then you pick a specialized pill/bar/diet from there. -cera *~Beth~* wrote: >One of my friends has his new book about weightloss, she's only on the 2nd >or 3rd chapter, but apparently Dr. Phil is coming out with a line of meal >replacement shakes and bars to go along with his weightloss plan. They're >called (or are going to be called) Shape Up. > >I plan to watch the interview tonight. > >Beth > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Well...I was wrong about the good addition to our lives part! kee kee..but at least it was a nice try for him..lol. he will definatley grab the slim fast market. what does his nutrtion book say anyone know? Kathi In , " didimalouf " <didimalouf@y...> wrote: > respect him or not did you guys notice the first few ingredients on > these bars: > > Syrup Blend , Corn Syrup , Peanut Butter , Sugar , Hydrogenated > Starch , High Fructose Corn Syrup , Salt , Lecithin , Natural > Flavor , Carrageenan , Crisps , Soy Protein > > YUK! notice how far you have to go before you even get to any real > protein. > > > > > > The bars are already available at Walgreens. > > > > http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jhtml? > PRODID=396707 & CATID=100984 > > > > I actually like Dr. Phil. But I think it's a little weird for him > to come > > out with a " line " of weightloss products. It sort of affects his > > credibility, IMO. > > > > Beth > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Dr. Phil shakes and bars?!?! Oh, no, I hope that's not the case. > I would > > lose a lot of respect for him if he did that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 You know the whole thing of Dr Phil getting into supplements is not so far off when you have follwed his program thru the Oprah show and beyond - its like a natural step that he believes you may need but ultimately he says this bit (in the specifics of the info in the previous link) which really is sooooo true: " Weight is managed, not cured. You know it's true. Honest to goodness weight loss requires changing your behavior and lifestyle. You need to eat a healthy low calorie diet and exercise more. I've developed a plan to help you succeed and, together with a team of nutritionists and health care professionals, I've helped to develop a line of nutrition products to support the plan. These products contain scientifically researched levels of ingredients that can help you change your behavior to take control of your weight. Remember, weight loss doesn't just happen. It happens one step at a time. " And btw if you read the list of ingredients of his products they are good balanced vitamins with a touch of other known ingredients that may help you lose bodyfat - nothing amazing but still a good product that I would buy the next time I switch around my vitamins. Btw they sell his complete line of stuff at WalMart too. <<joni>> *ever lurking in the shadows of this board* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 I believe that Dr. Phil has learned a lot over the past 4-5 years and now realizes that behaviour of some children are beyond their control and there are other reasons other than bad parenting for their child's behaviours. If one were to explore heavy metal poisoning how and where do you go to find this out? Canadian Mom aka Tammy >From: " markautismcharge " <mark.connolly.cgb5@...> >Reply-EOHarm >EOHarm >Subject: Dr. Phil >Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:39:53 -0000 > >I was just stumbled on Dr. Phil's show and he had the parents of a >severely ADHD kid who wanted to kill his parents. To my surprise Dr. >Phi said the child may me heavy metal toxic. Maybe that is nothing new >to the Dr. Phil followers out there but it surprised me. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 your best bet right now would be to test the child--with a urinary porphyrin test for lead and mercury toxicity.-if you question that someone you know is having these problems. Mtamrobinson@... wrote: I believe that Dr. Phil has learned a lot over the past 4-5 years and now realizes that behaviour of some children are beyond their control and there are other reasons other than bad parenting for their child's behaviours. If one were to explore heavy metal poisoning how and where do you go to find this out?Canadian Mom aka Tammy>From: "markautismcharge" <mark.connolly.cgb5statefarm>>Reply-EOHarm >EOHarm >Subject: Dr. Phil>Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:39:53 -0000>>I was just stumbled on Dr. Phil's show and he had the parents of a>severely ADHD kid who wanted to kill his parents. To my surprise Dr.>Phi said the child may me heavy metal toxic. Maybe that is nothing new>to the Dr. Phil followers out there but it surprised me.> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 I like the way Dr. Phil uses the words, "the parents should also look to a biological cause," when it comes to behavior in children...... I'm sure adults too.RoxMaurine Meleck <maurine_meleck@...> wrote: your best bet right now would be to test the child--with a urinary porphyrin test for lead and mercury toxicity.-if you question that someone you know is having these problems. Mtamrobinsonsympatico (DOT) ca wrote: I believe that Dr. Phil has learned a lot over the past 4-5 years and now realizes that behaviour of some children are beyond their control and there are other reasons other than bad parenting for their child's behaviours. If one were to explore heavy metal poisoning how and where do you go to find this out?Canadian Mom aka Tammy>From: "markautismcharge" <mark.connolly.cgb5statefarm>>Reply-EOHarm >EOHarm >Subject: Dr. Phil>Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:39:53 -0000>>I was just stumbled on Dr. Phil's show and he had the parents of a>severely ADHD kid who wanted to kill his parents. To my surprise Dr.>Phi said the child may me heavy metal toxic. Maybe that is nothing new>to the Dr. Phil followers out there but it surprised me.> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Mark Connolly wrote: I just stumbled on Dr. Phil's show and he had the parents of aseverely ADHD kid who wanted to kill his parents. To my surprise Dr.Phi said the child may me heavy metal toxic. Maybe that is nothing newto the Dr. Phil followers out there but it surprised me. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I, too, happened to "stumble" upon Dr. Phil's Show yesterday and was equally surprised by what I learned. Here is an "edited" synopsis of the show ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Phil addresses a statement Cole made on tape when was talking to him about the cat. “He said, 'They don’t feel anything,'†he says. “That tells me that this young man has not developed empathy. He doesn’t have the ability to see things through somebody else’s — the cat’s eyes, the dog’s eyes — another person’s eyes. Empathy usually develops around 6 or 7 years old. He has not developed that at this point, so he doesn’t understand pain that he inflicts on somebody else.†“.........But before you even get to that point, I think there are very possibly neurological issues that are going on here. I think this is the point at which his brain is not functioning the way that you would normally expect it to function,†he explains. He notes that Cole’s inhibition centers may not be functioning properly, and he may have toxicity from heavy metals. “There are environmental toxins that we see in children that affect their brain to the point that they don’t have that shut off switch. They go into a rage,†he explains. “You know how miserable he’s making you and everybody else, can you imagine how miserable he must be inside Dr. Phil introduces Dr. Lawlis, Chairman of the Dr. Phil advisory board, expert on ADD and ADHD and author of The IQ Answer, and asks him, “What do you think is going on here, and what would you do map-wise, brain-wise with this young man first?†Dr. Lawlis points out that feeds Cole chocolate, even though he’s allergic to it. “Every time you feed a child something they’re allergic to, you’re building up inflammation in the brain,†he explains. “One of the things that we need to do is find out — from a brain map — what’s going on, what’s he sensitive to, how much toxicity he has, and is he metabolizing his foods so that he actually can feed his brain to make it a happy brain.†Dr. Phil tells the couple that Dr. Lawlis is willing to do a work-up on Cole at his premiere diagnostic center, the Lawlis-Peavey PsychoNeuroPlasticity Center, located in Dallas, Texas. “We will take you and Cole to Dallas, to the PNP Center, and do this evaluation and find out what's going on with him neurologically and brain-wise, so we can see if those are things that need to be dealt with," he explains. "If that’s taken off the table, then now we know that we're dealing with a social development issue, and we can start dealing with that from a parenting standpoint.†The Lawlis Peavey PNP Center is a clinic founded by Dr Lawlis and Dr Barbara Peavey providing comprehensive integrated assessment and treatment planning for individuals dealing with problems involving neurological issues and related symptoms, including Attention Deficit Disorder (ADHD), Mood Disorders, Bipolar Disorder, Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, Anxiety, Depression, Memory & Attention Disorders as well as other Neurological and Spectrum Disorders ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am greatly encouraged by what I see being expressed by highly credentialed "psychiatrists", such as, Harvard pediatric neurologist Martha Herbert, author of a 14,000 word paper in the journal Clinical Neuropsychiatry that reconceptualizes the universe of autism, pulling the brain down from its privileged perch as an organ isolated from the rest of the body. Herbert is quoted in Jill Niemark's ground breaking Discover Magazine article as saying: "I no longer see autism as a disorder of the brain but as a disorder that affects the brain....it also affects the immune system and the gut." Dr. Phil's "heavy metal toxicity" comments are a welcomed indication the disorder diagnosed as "autism" will eventually be pried from the "cold dead hands" of the psychiatric profession, where, after at least 60 years of opportunity to identify both the "cause" and "cure", it remains a total "mystery". Autism Speaks will soon have to acknowledge the foolishness of continuing to rely upon the "cold dead hands" of their resident "experts" who are locked within a profession that has produced nothing but failure. Refrigerator moms? Spontaneous gene mutations? Spontaneous recoveries? Older men? Watching too much television? Thanks to all those wonderful, courageous moms, who began "unlocking" autism decades ago, such as, Moms Against Mercury, Safe-Minds, etc. Your lonely labors are beginning to bear fruit that will benefit generations of children not yet born. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------P.S. Autism Speaks is soon going to have to make a critical decision. Either lead the way or get out of the way, because, a NEW DAY IS COMING!!!! Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I watched. the boy w/ Downs and autism was 12. It was hard to watch his self injury and feces smearing. I was discouraged when Dr. Phil said he was directing the family to Kennedy Kreiger for follow up. Is there anyone there that knows or does anything about bio-med issues? When Dr. Granpeesheh spoke she had reviewed his medical records and said had been on antibiotics so many times in his life that she couldn't even count them all. She went on to discuss why that was a problem and how we treat the behaviors and not the underlying medical issues. I think Dr. Phil asked her to keep talking with the family after the show at the very end of the show. Also, Dr. Phil left the impression that there are so many resources available to the family (and families like them) which as we know is total BS. > > I was just stumbled on Dr. Phil's show and he had the parents of a > severely ADHD kid who wanted to kill his parents. To my surprise Dr. > Phi said the child may me heavy metal toxic. Maybe that is nothing new > to the Dr. Phil followers out there but it surprised me. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 We need to E-mail the DR Phil show and direct him and the producers to DR's who can help these kids, as well as books, testing too. In EOHarm , " andrea52521991 " <mkeller@...> wrote: > > I watched. the boy w/ Downs and autism was 12. It was hard to > watch his self injury and feces smearing. I was discouraged when Dr. > Phil said he was directing the family to Kennedy Kreiger for follow up. > Is there anyone there that knows or does anything about bio-med issues? > When Dr. Granpeesheh spoke she had reviewed his medical records and > said had been on antibiotics so many times in his life that she > couldn't even count them all. She went on to discuss why that was a > problem and how we treat the behaviors and not the underlying medical > issues. I think Dr. Phil asked her to keep talking with the family > after the show at the very end of the show. Also, Dr. Phil left the > impression that there are so many resources available to the family > (and families like them) which as we know is total BS. > > > > > > > > I was just stumbled on Dr. Phil's show and he had the parents of a > > severely ADHD kid who wanted to kill his parents. To my surprise Dr. > > Phi said the child may me heavy metal toxic. Maybe that is nothing new > > to the Dr. Phil followers out there but it surprised me. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Are you serious? Dr. Granpesheh talked about addressing behaviors and NOT the medical issues? Re: Dr. Phil We need to E-mail the DR Phil show and direct him and the producers to DR's who can help these kids, as well as books, testing too. In EOHarmgroups (DOT) com, "andrea52521991" <mkeller@... > wrote: > > I watched. the boy w/ Downs and autism was 12. It was hard to > watch his self injury and feces smearing. I was discouraged when Dr. > Phil said he was directing the family to Kennedy Kreiger for follow up. > Is there anyone there that knows or does anything about bio-med issues? > When Dr. Granpeesheh spoke she had reviewed his medical records and > said had been on antibiotics so many times in his life that she > couldn't even count them all. She went on to discuss why that was a > problem and how we treat the behaviors and not the underlying medical > issues. I think Dr. Phil asked her to keep talking with the family > after the show at the very end of the show. Also, Dr. Phil left the > impression that there are so many resources available to the family > (and families like them) which as we know is total BS. > > > > > > > > I was just stumbled on Dr. Phil's show and he had the parents of a > > severely ADHD kid who wanted to kill his parents. To my surprise Dr. > > Phi said the child may me heavy metal toxic. Maybe that is nothing new > > to the Dr. Phil followers out there but it surprised me. > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 I think Dr. Granpeesheh said that the boy had been on *antipsychotics* so many times that they'd lost count, not " antibiotics " . > > > > I was just stumbled on Dr. Phil's show and he had the parents of a > > severely ADHD kid who wanted to kill his parents. To my surprise Dr. > > Phi said the child may me heavy metal toxic. Maybe that is nothing new > > to the Dr. Phil followers out there but it surprised me. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 From the transcript: Dr. Phil introduces Dr. Doreen Granpeesheh, who sits on the board of the Autism Society of American. " Now that you've seen some of the video and all, and you've been through the medical records as well, there are some health issues going on here, " Dr. Phil says. " I can't even count the number of times in his life that he's been on antibiotics, " she replies. " The problem with the antibiotics is you've got to give them when he has a problem, but you can take them so much, that they compromise your ability for your body to function properly, " Dr. Phil adds. " Typically, when you take that level of antibiotics as a young child, you start to destroy all of the healthy bacteria as well, " Dr. Granpeesheh explains. " None of this is being treated because, unfortunately, what we see with kids with Downs, and particularly with autism, is that we focus more on the external symptoms and we don't really focus on any of the medical symptoms, which are also causing some of these behaviors. " > > I think Dr. Granpeesheh said that the boy had been on > *antipsychotics* so many times that they'd lost count, > not " antibiotics " . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 I heard it as anti-biotics. For those of you who saw the show, I didn’t like how Dr. Phil turned things around and blamed the parents. They are doing their best and NEED HELP. Real help. - On 3/26/08 7:08 PM, " andrea52521991 " <mkeller@...> wrote: From the transcript: Dr. Phil introduces Dr. Doreen Granpeesheh, who sits on the board of the Autism Society of American. " Now that you've seen some of the video and all, and you've been through the medical records as well, there are some health issues going on here, " Dr. Phil says. " I can't even count the number of times in his life that he's been on antibiotics, " she replies. " The problem with the antibiotics is you've got to give them when he has a problem, but you can take them so much, that they compromise your ability for your body to function properly, " Dr. Phil adds. " Typically, when you take that level of antibiotics as a young child, you start to destroy all of the healthy bacteria as well, " Dr. Granpeesheh explains. " None of this is being treated because, unfortunately, what we see with kids with Downs, and particularly with autism, is that we focus more on the external symptoms and we don't really focus on any of the medical symptoms, which are also causing some of these behaviors. " > > I think Dr. Granpeesheh said that the boy had been on > *antipsychotics* so many times that they'd lost count, > not " antibiotics " . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 So sorry! I heard the first remark about " giving when having a problem " and could have sworn they said " antipsychotics " . Then I left the room for the usual minor kid emergency and the ensueing dialogue heard through a wall or two just increased my confusion that they were discussing psych drugs. I've been following the Nate Tseglin case and it's getting to me. I think a big bottle of Seroquel is following me. :-@ At least they got into the discussion of gut flora. That's something. But it also bothers me as well how easily things slip back into finding fault with parents when children are clearly environmentally injured. There just seems to be this need to distantiate or quarantine the issue to certain families as a way for some to convince themselves that it " couldn't happen to them " . A stupid knee- jerk of victim-blaming, really. > >> > > >> > I think Dr. Granpeesheh said that the boy had been on > >> > *antipsychotics* so many times that they'd lost count, > >> > not " antibiotics " . > >> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Below is the letter NDSS sent to the Dr. Phil Show regarding the episode “Tired of Being a Mom?” I am glad that they sent this letter. The episode made my cry and it did not provide enough information about DS or autism. It showed a preteen child in a diaper and I thought that was not respectful at all. They did not mention in home care or other programs but instead Dr. Phil arranged to have him sent away. Dawn --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------------------------ March 26, 2008 Dear Dr. Phil: I’m writing to you on behalf of the National Down Syndrome Society to express our deepest concern with a recent episode, “Tired of Being a Mom?” which aired on Tuesday, March 25. It is clear that the context of the story is to reveal images of ’s physical inabilities, due to his dual diagnosis of Down syndrome and autism. It is also clear that the parents, Cyndie and Ulis, are having a hard time raising their son. While we appreciate the resource from the Kennedy-Krieger Institute in Baltimore you provided the family, we are extremely concerned with the storyline and overall intent of the episode. We feel you did not define or explain the difference between autism and Down syndrome or the conditions of a dual diagnosis. The story you shared with your viewers was only one exception and quite an unusually rare one. You did not provide accurate or up-to-date information on the actual conditions and/or dual diagnosis. Did you know that having a dual diagnosis of Down syndrome and autism is rare, about 1-7%? Did you know that most children with Down syndrome do not have a psychiatric or neurobehavioral disorder? Did you know that there are countless programs and services available to serve children with Down syndrome and other intellectual disabilities so they can be raised at home with their family and not put in an institution? There are more than 400,000 people in the United States that have Down syndrome. Individuals with Down syndrome and other intellectual disabilities work very hard—harder than most people—to learn how to read, write, play musical instruments, participate in sports, live independently, and become valuable members of their communities. More often than not, these individuals are underestimated their whole lives by people who focus on their disability, rather than their abilities. When the media portrays people with Down syndrome in this way and does not provide alternative and appropriate facts on all the achievements and advancements that people with Down syndrome have accomplished, it sustains and perpetuates low expectations and negative stereotypes. It further impedes the acceptance of people with disabilities in schools, the workplace, and the community. Negative and inaccurate public perceptions are the greatest barrier that the National Down Syndrome Society faces in achieving acceptance and inclusion of people with Down syndrome. We request that you consider booking a program that provides an alternative view. We would like to arrange for you to interview another family who has a child with a dual diagnosis of Down syndrome and autism that has a different, more positive perspective. I also invite you to interview Burke, (formerly Corky from the TV series “Life Goes On”) who is the NDSS Goodwill Ambassador and a truly dedicated self advocate. We can also have our clinical advisory board offer a series of medical experts to speak on this topic. I think you and your viewers will be pleasantly surprised to hear how many advances have been made in last 30 years! I look forward to our future discussions. Sincerely, Schleider VP of Marketing and Communication National Down Syndrome Society 666 Broadway, 8th Floor New York, NY 10014 212-763-4369 sschleider@... --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Hi Girl I almost called you when his show was on (since it touched on RAD) but I was such a crybaby during the show. I have never wrote to any talk show host BUT I did DR PHIL I was appalled he showed a 12 yr old in a diaper, I was appalled the mother allowed it. I am so glad the national org got involved in this heehee instead of this crazy mom writing in complaining and I hope I wasn't alone, even if you agree or disagree with the mom and how she deals with life raising a child with DS/Autism ....... the teen should have never been on TV wearing a diaper, I can't imagine Dr Phil allowing a typical child dressed like that on his show. Kathy mom to Sara 16 ................ still ticked with this show Re: Dr. Phil I'm glad that letter was sent. That show was very disturbing to me. I am not only mother to a child with down syndrome and caregiver to an adult with down syndrome, but I am a mother to three children with reactive attachment disorder (RAD). I didn't feel that he met the needs of either mother and certainly not of the children. I am willing to bet he hears from people on both fronts and hope he can learn and share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 This is a great letter. I watched the show and was upset as well. I have friends who have children with a dual diagnosis and although some are rather heavily affected, I have not seen what I saw on Dr. Phil. My first instinct was to send him here and we'll help get him on the right track. It's interesting how his behaviour was quite different when it wasn't his mom caring for him. I wonder if the stress is so great for her that he senses it and is reacting to it by his actions. I felt that in some way he was communicating that something was very wrong for him and he would like those who care for him to fix it. He was quite clear in saying the word " mean " . And it seemed to be used in appropriate context. I also wondered at mom's statement at the beginning that if she had known, she likely would have terminated. It certainly was the case for Tim's biological family and we are so grateful she didn't know. That child has brought more into our lives in his nearly 18 years with us (I can hardly believe that..time goes by so fast) than we could have imagined in our wildest dreams. Val in Winnipeg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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