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Kellie,

I'm in the same boat!!!! You know they are roughly the same age (January

babies!) and and I have the same routine- dinner, bath, book, bottle

(bottle part comes with mom (or Dad on occassion) attached, laying down next

to him, in our bed!). I am a real sucker- and he is testing me the same way

with the fake cry. Trying to stop the bottle too, so I tried just the cup

the other night, but he only took a little. I was tired and just so anxious

for him to conk out finally that I gave in and gave him the bottle. Then

after he falls asleep, we put him in his crib and by 3 am- he's back in with

us. Writing this down, I can see all the things I'm doing wrong- but that

crying that doesn't stop makes me so guilty too! I'm going to get tough too.

My Doc told me there is a book by Weissbluth with each child's age in one

chapter, so its not a lot of reading and to give you an idea of how to get

the job done in 2-3 days! I feel like you do, like your depriving them of

mommy's snuggles, but it can start to really control you and your life, and I

have to make some changes now! Maybe we can be in " the cryers club " and keep

up to date with our progress there too :o)

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It does definitely sound like we are in the same boat. wakes up around 3 or 4 every night and I subconsciously just go get him and bring him to bed with us. We all end up sleeping great, of course. For some reason, I did not have any trouble taking away the bottle. has had a cup since he was 11 months. He really didn't care what he drank out of, as long as he still got his milk. When he was still on formula, I started putting the formula in a cup and the next day, since he did all right with the cup, just stopped giving him the bottle. Never used them since.

However, sleeping is another story, as well as the separation anxiety when I have to leave him to go to work. I have to sneak out so he won't follow me to the door crying his little eyes out. When I was pregnant, I honestly couldn't see how anyone could ever be so attached to ME. Boy, was I ever wrong.

Well, , we'll just have to help each other on this one, huh? It sure is tough.

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I definitely recommend reading Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child by

Dr. Weissbluth. Everything he writes in that book has worked for

Allyson (5 months). He says to let children cry 1 hour max for naps

and until they fall asleep at night - but Allyson has never cried

that long. At night she doesn't cry at all and for naps she either

doesn't cry or maybe cries for a couple of minutes (the most she ever

cried was 21 minutes - that was torture, but it was the first day).

I had to resort to the book because every time I put Ally down for a

nap she would wake up and start crying. So I just held her all day

and she never slept all day! She was so overtired that she just

cried all day. Now that she's well rested, she is such a happy

camper. Definitely try out the book...it doesn't take long for it to

work.

Has anyone had the problem of their child waking up 30 minutes into

their naps? Allyson does this a lot during the day, but never at

night. She ends up crying for about 10 minutes (yes, this kills me)

and then goes back to sleep for 45 minutes to an hour.

(Ally's mom)

> Kellie,

> I'm in the same boat!!!! You know they are roughly the same age

(January

> babies!) and and I have the same routine- dinner, bath,

book, bottle

> (bottle part comes with mom (or Dad on occassion) attached, laying

down next

> to him, in our bed!). I am a real sucker- and he is testing me the

same way

> with the fake cry. Trying to stop the bottle too, so I tried just

the cup

> the other night, but he only took a little. I was tired and just

so anxious

> for him to conk out finally that I gave in and gave him the

bottle. Then

> after he falls asleep, we put him in his crib and by 3 am- he's

back in with

> us. Writing this down, I can see all the things I'm doing wrong-

but that

> crying that doesn't stop makes me so guilty too! I'm going to get

tough too.

> My Doc told me there is a book by Weissbluth with each child's age

in one

> chapter, so its not a lot of reading and to give you an idea of how

to get

> the job done in 2-3 days! I feel like you do, like your depriving

them of

> mommy's snuggles, but it can start to really control you and your

life, and I

> have to make some changes now! Maybe we can be in " the cryers

club " and keep

> up to date with our progress there too :o)

>

> ' Mom

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Kellie,

Well, slept until 5:30 am before I brought him in our bed again.

But, he woke 2-3 times and I just comforted him and left the room without

problem. I hope that it will continue until we're up to 6:30 or 7:00! I

started him on the sippy cup around 9 months and he does great with it. I

have just never stopped the nighttime bottle (and am guilty of using it on

the weekends to put him out for a nap). He does well at school all day long

with only sippy cup- so really its my fault for just not stopping the bottle.

I admit I end up doing things that make our lives easier (sleeping with us

we all get sleep, etc.). I'm getting a clue slowly but surely! Hope you had

a great weekend!! How did yours go?

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Thanks for your advice- I will have to check into that book for sure. 21

min- wow, I would have caved like a wimp! He does wake up at school at nap

time and cries and they tell me there is nothing that will console him (this

happened to me the other weekend, so I understand what they are saying). My

doc said it could be nightmares, which adds to my wanting to comfort him and

let him fall asleep in my arms. But I know this is a problem and I am

determined to get hard nosed here! I'll keep you posted and will look for

that book this week! Thanks again!

nicholas' Mom

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In a message dated 5/6/02 8:31:50 AM Central Daylight Time, rella1234@...

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<< He does well at school all day long

with only sippy cup- so really its my fault for just not stopping the

bottle. >>

We did the EXACT same thing. Daycare didn't use the bottle, but for some

reason I still used it at naptime and bedtime! I don't know what I was

thinking, but when it was time to stop it was not big deal - BTW we didn't

actually stop until after was 18 months!

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Marci,

Thanks for sharing that! I have many friends that have stopped the bottle

even before 1 year old- but I know its my fault because he has no problem

with the sippy cup and drinks (with help) from a normal cup since before he

turned 1 also. I think I am having more difficulty letting go of the bottle

than he is :o) Thanks again!

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In a message dated 5/7/2002 9:18:06 AM Central Daylight Time, rella1234@... writes:

Marci,

Thanks for sharing that! I have many friends that have stopped the bottle

even before 1 year old-but I know its my fault because he has no problem

with the Sippy cup and drinks (with help) from a normal cup since before he

turned 1 also. I think I am having more difficulty letting go of the bottle

than he is :o) Thanks again!

' Mom

Hey me too- I love cuddling and giving him the bottle and he has been using the Sippy cup since 9 months like a champ-what can I say???

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We're suckers for our kids!!! To make matters worse, this whole week he

seems to wake up at 2am and cries like he's teething- so we do tylenol,

orajel and then warm milk seems to calm him down and we're all asleep minutes

later- I hope this isn't becoming a bad habit and is over when the teeth come

in! I hate to admit I'm a sucker for my baby cuddles!

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Ps must be molars because does the same thing off and on as he has been

cutting his molars- a week of it then quiet then another few days then

quiet-we give him teething tablets a bottle and then back to bed-motrin if he

is really screaming. But we always give him the motrin before he even goes to

bed when he gets like this and that has seemed to help and it lasts longer

than Tylenol-which is why we use it.

On top of that he wakes when his diaper is the least bit full-he hates a full

diaper-so that doesn't help the sleeping routine any!

Keep up the good work mommy!

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Beck,

I did buy some teething tablets, not sure what kind, but they are supposed to

dissolve in the mouth and I was too scared to give it to him thinking he

would choke on it! I'll dig 'em out and give that a try! Thanks!

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Beck,

I think your right, I think he's cutting some teeth because he's gone a

couple of months now with no teeth where before it was a least one tooth

every month. We ran out of motrin and hubby bought this oversized bottle of

tylenol, so trying to use that up but I do like the motrin better too. Poor

kid, I think he's getting a couple at once so that can't be fun! For any of

us :) Thanks for your great advice!!

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