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Thanks so much for the update. Please be sure to let us know how

their appts go with Dr. . I am happy to hear they have both

adjusted happily to tummy time! That's not an easy task, I know!

Good luck with repositioning in the mean time. I'll keep my fingers

crossed for you. Please keep us updated.

Debbie Abby's mom DOCgrad

MI

>

> We got our appointment at Children's Hospital in Boston for the end

> of May (with a Doctor ..anyone have any experience with

him?).

> In the meantime, we're doing what we can to round out those mellons

a

> little bit. Both of them have really taken to supervised tummy

> time..which is great as it's pretty relaxing watching them.

>

> Zoey definitely has no lack of neck motion. I got up this morning

> and readjused their heads and watched Zoey turn all the way to the

> left then back to the right about four times. I suspect she will

> round out prior to the doctor's appointment. Zack does seem to

have

> some limited range of motion..so I need to figure out how to loosen

> up that neck of his.

>

> > By the way, I really like how you used the same initial for both

> > twins.

> We had to go all the way through the baby name book, before we

agreed

> on names. We didn't go into the naming process looking to have them

> start with the same letter..it was more of a happy coincidence. So

> far, there have been no mixups in identifying them..though we still

> haven't got the birth certificates yet!

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Jungle_Buns, (sorry, I don't beleive I caught your name)

That is wonderful news that the twins have taken to tummy time so

well!!! By the time your appointment comes up in May, you might not

even need to go. Be sure to take plenty of pictures to help you

document all the improvement you are seeing, just so you know your

eyes aren't playing tricks on you! We have quite a few parents here

who are in the Boston area, hopefully they will chime in here and

tell you their experiences at Children's.

As for Zack and his limited range of motion, maybe you could call EI

(Early Intervention) and have a PT evaluate him and to show you some

stretches. Good luck with it all!

Niki

Kaylie & Danny (STAR grads)

Phila., PA

>

> We got our appointment at Children's Hospital in Boston for the end

> of May (with a Doctor ..anyone have any experience with

him?).

> In the meantime, we're doing what we can to round out those mellons

a

> little bit. Both of them have really taken to supervised tummy

> time..which is great as it's pretty relaxing watching them.

>

> Zoey definitely has no lack of neck motion. I got up this morning

> and readjused their heads and watched Zoey turn all the way to the

> left then back to the right about four times. I suspect she will

> round out prior to the doctor's appointment. Zack does seem to

have

> some limited range of motion..so I need to figure out how to loosen

> up that neck of his.

>

> > By the way, I really like how you used the same initial for both

> > twins.

> We had to go all the way through the baby name book, before we

agreed

> on names. We didn't go into the naming process looking to have them

> start with the same letter..it was more of a happy coincidence. So

> far, there have been no mixups in identifying them..though we still

> haven't got the birth certificates yet!

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Keep up the great work mom!!!! As for the range of motion, I will attach a link that shows a few exercises that would help. Good luck!!

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In a message dated 5/2/2002 8:54:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dj2kirby@... writes:

That was the exact same thing I was thinking! Sadly, not at all!!!!

I wish I could have gotten my husband to do some of the research for

me! You do both sound like amazing parents, keep up your great work

Debbie,

I agree. Sadly, not at all! If I hadn't done all the research for plagio, we wouldn't have known a thing. I have educated my husband while he watches Sports Center and Mariner's games. He cares about 's head, but when Edgar ez is hitting home runs, all I get are "uh-huh..."

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In a message dated 5/2/2002 11:34:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jungle_buns@... writes:

Sadly I'm the dad.

Ken,

Sorry Dad!!!! But no sadness about it- that's great that you are helping out so much- Mom has a lot going on too so teamwork is great!! Your all in this together- if it weren't for the help of my hubby I might have went crazy :)

Sounds like Zoey is enjoying that tummy time with her amazing thumb! :o) The hold does help a lot to seperate the neck and the shoulder and create a nice "space" that you don't often see when they tilt so much. Glad to hear things are truly working out- hats off to you Dad for all your hard work and cheers to mom for all her hard work too! Please keep us posted and if can help out in anyway, please email me!

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Sadly I'm the dad.

SADLY???? Nooooooo! You sound like a GREAT Dad!! :o) Look at you doing all of this research while Mom is so busy! You both sound great!

Keep up the good work! (and I love your screen name!)

Kendra

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> Keep up the great work mom!!!! As for the range of motion, I will attach a > link that shows a few exercises that would help. Good luck!!> > ' Mom> <A HREF="http://www.orthoseek.com/articles/ifs-left.html">Stretches</A>Sadly I'm the dad. Anja the mom is much too busy feeding the twins, readjusting their heads, convincing them neck boppy's are fun, moving toys to the opposite side of their heads during tummy time, etc.... to possibly log into a group -> I do print out postings for her to read. She's happy if she has enough time to have a shower and eat lunch during the day. Thanks for the excercise tips..I just naturally did a couple of them on my own..but that carrying position should be fun. I've been amazed by how much Zack's neck strength has improved from the tummy time. He can hold his head up..turn it side to side..for at least 30 seconds now. Meanwhile Zoey uses the time to reacquaint herself with her thumb (it's so much easier on the tummy..the thumb is just sitting there waiting for you). KenZack & Zoey's dadFor more plagio info

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Ken, sounds like you and Anja have your hands full. I have a two month old that I'm working on repositioning. We just went to the Dr. yesterday and I told her about this group and all of our recent boppy purchases. : ) She is hoping that since we are going at repositioning so aggressively Kayla will not need to be banded. Kayla has a preference to look to the right, the same side as her flat spot. We decided it wouldn't hurt to go to physical therapy. We'll be starting that in the next couple of weeks.

Keep up the good work on repositioning!

Kathy

Brighton, MI

Re: Zack and Zoey update...

> Keep up the great work mom!!!! As for the range of motion, I will attach a > link that shows a few exercises that would help. Good luck!!> > ' Mom> <A HREF="http://www.orthoseek.com/articles/ifs-left.html">Stretches</A>Sadly I'm the dad. Anja the mom is much too busy feeding the twins, readjusting their heads, convincing them neck boppy's are fun, moving toys to the opposite side of their heads during tummy time, etc.... to possibly log into a group -> I do print out postings for her to read. She's happy if she has enough time to have a shower and eat lunch during the day. Thanks for the excercise tips..I just naturally did a couple of them on my own..but that carrying position should be fun. I've been amazed by how much Zack's neck strength has improved from the tummy time. He can hold his head up..turn it side to side..for at least 30 seconds now. Meanwhile Zoey uses the time to reacquaint herself with her thumb (it's so much easier on the tummy..the thumb is just sitting there waiting for you). KenZack & Zoey's dadFor more plagio info

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I tried to do some casting practice with Zack yesterday

Ken:

When my Hanna had her casting done, it wasn't so much the stocking over her head that bothered her. They played peek-a-boo with her and coochie-cooed her, so she didn't mind. It was me holding her down and the warm/wet feeling on her head that she didn't like. Like you've heard, it goes fairly quickly, and once the babies can be up in your arms for hugs and kisses, they should be just fine :o)

Who knows, you may not even have to go thru the casting at all - but it's good that you are aware and preparing for all possibilities!

Kendra

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> I agree. Sadly, not at all! If I hadn't done all the research for plagio, > I have educated my husband while he watches > Sports Center and Mariner's games. He cares about 's head, but when > Edgar ez is hitting home runs, all I get are "uh-huh..."Ha..well admittedly while my wife was out for dinner last night with a friend, I was enjoying tummy-time with the twins while watching the Celtics playoff game. My view shifted from: Zoey breathing, Zack breathing, drat that Iverson scored again..Zoey breathing, Zack breathing, etc...I do internet research for everything, so it's only natural to use everything available to us to make life better for our babies. I mean if I spent 4 hours trying to decide on the best home speakers, surely I can spend some time researching the first thing wrong with our babies. You have all inspired me to keep it going, though I admit I can't talk to anyone without checking out their head shape. I tried to do some casting practice with Zack yesterday (as I pulled his sleeper off I let it rest over his eyes and top of head). He thrashed around gasping like a fish out of water. We definitely have some work to do if he ends up needing a band of some kind.For more plagio info

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Kathy..good luck with the repositioning. I'm still a little frustrated by this because we knew about plagio and bought a special sleep position system (which claimed the pillow was made of a foam designed by neuro-surgeons to greatly reduce plagio). Hence, we wrongly thought we were not in danger and their little heads would round out in no time. Still, I'm lucky to have a pediatrician who took it seriously right away, knew about the bands (!) and referred us to an expert to kick off the process. He said he refers at least 2 or 3 kids a year to get banded.

Still, we've seen modest signs of improved in both noggins with ever so slight areas of roundess in the flat spots. I'm really hopeful that we can avoid the banding..but that sounds alot better than surgery! Good luck!

Ken

Kathy <kathy_m_wilson@...> wrote:

Ken, sounds like you and Anja have your hands full. I have a two month old that I'm working on repositioning. We just went to the Dr. yesterday and I told her about this group and all of our recent boppy purchases. : ) She is hoping that since we are going at repositioning so aggressively Kayla will not need to be banded. Kayla has a preference to look to the right, the same side as her flat spot. We decided it wouldn't hurt to go to physical therapy. We'll be starting that in the next couple of weeks.

Keep up the good work on repositioning!

Kathy

Brighton, MI

Re: Zack and Zoey update...

> Keep up the great work mom!!!! As for the range of motion, I will attach a > link that shows a few exercises that would help. Good luck!!> > ' Mom> <A HREF="http://www.orthoseek.com/articles/ifs-left.html">Stretches</A>Sadly I'm the dad. Anja the mom is much too busy feeding the twins, readjusting their heads, convincing them neck boppy's are fun, moving toys to the opposite side of their heads during tummy time, etc.... to possibly log into a group -> I do print out postings for her to read. She's happy if she has enough time to have a shower and eat lunch during the day. Thanks for the excercise tips..I just naturally did a couple of them on my own..but that carrying position should be fun. I've been amazed by how much Zack's neck strength has improved from the tummy time. He can hold his head up..turn it side to side..for at least 30 seconds now. Meanwhile Zoey uses the time to reacquaint herself with her thumb (it's so much easier on the tummy..the thumb is just sitting there waiting for you). KenZack & Zoey's dadFor more plagio info

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In a message dated 5/2/02 12:24:43 PM Central Daylight Time,

jungle_buns@... writes:

<< Ha..well admittedly while my wife was out for dinner last night with

a friend, I was enjoying tummy-time with the twins while watching the

Celtics playoff game. My view shifted from: Zoey breathing, Zack

breathing, drat that Iverson scored again..Zoey breathing, Zack

breathing, etc... >>

Hillarious!!! Good for you for sticking with that tummy time and

repositioning. I can only imagine how challenging that must be for you and

your wife. Sounds like you guys are an awesome team - keep up the good work!!

Marci (Mom to )

Oklahoma

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Kathy,

Good for you that your being proactive and having a therapist check out the

preference to the right- this could be causing flatness on that side. Your

repositioning will certainly help and please keep us posted on how its going!

Good luck!

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Hahahhaha! You crack me up Dad! Hey, as long as their breathing! And you

are now officially part of the head police too! How great! You will never

be able to look at a baby's head without checking for that flat spot!!! I

hope you don't have to go the helmet route for Zack but if you do, the

casting process is over in 10 min. Good luck to you all and please keep us

posted!

' Mom

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