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This is so interesting. I have never heard this mentioned before. What few

foods Seth does eat, they are either very spicy or very bland. There is no

in-between. The tears rolled down my face when I licked the wall where I had

put the cayenne pepper, yet Seth didn't seem to notice it was there. I

thought maybe it was old and had no taste, boy was I wrong! I put it there

to keep him from eating the wall, but that one backfired! I never tried it,

but I would assume the plaster walls are bland!

Gail

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Loren,

I am soooooo interested! Seth has a big problem with the feces issue and we

do the oils on cotton ball thing, (we call them smelling parties) but I, or

anyone else, have not thought of a tasting box! You can bet I will put this

one into use promptly! We knew his pica problem had a lot to do with oral

sensory, as he " explores " everything with his mouth and tongue also. We have

concentrated on the ingestion of these things more than on the reason for it.

Thanks so much for the info.

Gail

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I don't want to get in trouble again, but the problem we have is not smearing

the feces. Seth ingests a lot of very weird things, and that is one of them.

We do A LOT of sensory things with him daily, and so does school. This has

not cut down on his ingestion of " things " in the least. I am eager to try

the spicy things every couple of hours to see what happens. It's getting too

warm to continue to put his sleeper on backward now. Seth has no problem

smearing pudding, jello, whipped cream or any other smearable things, and he

doesn't eat those! Can't wait till he is potty trained and it is out of

reach!

Gail

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Several years ago, I worked in a group home which was designed to be an

extension of a school program for kids with autism (mostly adolescents) who

needed more intensive services than their parents could give them at home.

There was one boy who had some pretty unpleasant behaviors involving feces.

We struggled to try to figure out what need that behavior was fulfilling.

One idea we came up with was that it could be somehow related to his love of

strong smells and tastes. He was always snagging whole onions and raw

garlic cloves, loved the hottest, spiciest sauces we could get him, etc.

We created a smell and taste box for him which we kept stocked with a

variety of sauces and spreads which he could eat on crackers. We also got

all different extracts that we would dab on a cotton ball and let him smell.

We faithfully made sure he got his " fix " every couple of hours or so, and

the unpleasant behavior almost completely disappeared! If we became lax,

and didn't provide him with his fix on a regular basis throughout the day,

the behavior returned. I found it fascinating!

Loren

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> ,

> This is so interesting. I have never heard this mentioned before. What

few

> foods Seth does eat, they are either very spicy or very bland. There is

no

> in-between. The tears rolled down my face when I licked the wall where I

had

> put the cayenne pepper, yet Seth didn't seem to notice it was there. I

> thought maybe it was old and had no taste, boy was I wrong! I put it

there

> to keep him from eating the wall, but that one backfired! I never tried

it,

> but I would assume the plaster walls are bland!

> Gail

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Thanks for the tip - we are going to work in just such an environment starting

in July!! Would you mind sharing which agency or organization you worked with?/

Sara

>>> salori@... - 05/03/0 12:38 PM >>>

Several years ago, I worked in a group home which was designed to be an

extension of a school program for kids with autism (mostly adolescents) who

needed more intensive services than their parents could give them at home.

There was one boy who had some pretty unpleasant behaviors involving feces.

We struggled to try to figure out what need that behavior was fulfilling.

One idea we came up with was that it could be somehow related to his love of

strong smells and tastes. He was always snagging whole onions and raw

garlic cloves, loved the hottest, spiciest sauces we could get him, etc.

We created a smell and taste box for him which we kept stocked with a

variety of sauces and spreads which he could eat on crackers. We also got

all different extracts that we would dab on a cotton ball and let him smell.

We faithfully made sure he got his " fix " every couple of hours or so, and

the unpleasant behavior almost completely disappeared! If we became lax,

and didn't provide him with his fix on a regular basis throughout the day,

the behavior returned. I found it fascinating!

Loren

Re: pain tolerance

> ,

> This is so interesting. I have never heard this mentioned before. What

few

> foods Seth does eat, they are either very spicy or very bland. There is

no

> in-between. The tears rolled down my face when I licked the wall where I

had

> put the cayenne pepper, yet Seth didn't seem to notice it was there. I

> thought maybe it was old and had no taste, boy was I wrong! I put it

there

> to keep him from eating the wall, but that one backfired! I never tried

it,

> but I would assume the plaster walls are bland!

> Gail

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> If you love your Mother...

> Click Here

> 1/3653/6/_/691668/_/957370689/

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

>

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The feces thing can also be related to touch and texture. Some replacements for

that are chocolate pudding and hair mousse. the mousse and hair texture seems

to be a big thing for some kids and replaces the feces smearing behavior. Sara

>>> smilinggail@... - 05/03/0 1:03 PM >>>

Loren,

I am soooooo interested! Seth has a big problem with the feces issue and we

do the oils on cotton ball thing, (we call them smelling parties) but I, or

anyone else, have not thought of a tasting box! You can bet I will put this

one into use promptly! We knew his pica problem had a lot to do with oral

sensory, as he " explores " everything with his mouth and tongue also. We have

concentrated on the ingestion of these things more than on the reason for it.

Thanks so much for the info.

Gail

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Hi Sara-

The agency was called Peninsula Children's Center but has merged with

another agency called, Zonta. Their new name is Achieve. They are located

in Palo Alto and San in California.

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>

> > ,

> > This is so interesting. I have never heard this mentioned before. What

> few

> > foods Seth does eat, they are either very spicy or very bland. There is

> no

> > in-between. The tears rolled down my face when I licked the wall where

I

> had

> > put the cayenne pepper, yet Seth didn't seem to notice it was there. I

> > thought maybe it was old and had no taste, boy was I wrong! I put it

> there

> > to keep him from eating the wall, but that one backfired! I never tried

> it,

> > but I would assume the plaster walls are bland!

> > Gail

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > If you love your Mother...

> > Click Here

> > 1/3653/6/_/691668/_/957370689/

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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! I put

> it there

> to keep him from eating the wall, but that one backfired! I never

> tried it,

> but I would assume the plaster walls are bland!

> Gail

Gail,

Watch the plaster walls. They contain lead, and he can get lead poisoning

from it. (from experience with my oldest when she was small!)

S

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What kind of extremes are people facing with pain tolerance? I'm think I'm over

worried about . He busted his teeth had 3 exposed nerves and it didn't faze

him at all. 3 hours of sedated dental work including 2 root canals for the

busted teeth and he woke up with no pain at all didn't whine, cry or show any

sign of pain. We have seen a neurologist and have an MRI scheduled for the 25th

of this month and he said it could just be a down syndrome thing. Just want to

get other parents input.

Thanks,

mom to 9yrs old (DS, Bipolar, anxiety, agressive behaviors, complicated

behaviors, extremely high pain tolerance, autistic like tendencies

(overstimulation), asthma and allergies)

Abbey and a 3yrs old (my " normal " identical twins)

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High Pain Tolerance is often a sign in Down syndrome. My son had a compound

fracture of both bones in his leg and never needed pain meds throughout the

whole ordeal and even weeks later. He has also broken his wrist and didn't know

it until the next day. Now, don't confuse this with the other disorder where the

children feel no pain at all, because people with Ds do feel pain. It just isn't

as strong as some one without Ds.

 

It isn't something to worry about and there is nothing you can actually do about

it. Just be sure that if he falls he can move all of his parts so you know they

aren't broken.

Kristy Colvin

IMDSA President

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International Mosaic Down Syndrome Association

PH: 979-828-4177

Toll Free: 1-888-MDS-LINK

http://www.imdsa.org

http://www.mosaicmoments.today.com

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