Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Does he have a positive behavioral support plan at school to address the behaviors? I don't know about studies, but there do seem to be changes in many children with ds that I know/ know of around puberty. Same as children without ds. My understanding was that Ritalin, etc. are stimulants that only have a benefit to children with ADHD/ ADD. Does your child have a dx of ADHD/ ADD in addition to ds? Because the drugs mentioned are stimulants, the child's cardiac status would be relevant, along with any other existing medical concerns. I'd ask to see the studies. Judi _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of little1sdaycare@... Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:23 PM Subject: Does any one have any comments? Good or bad? My son is 10 and will be 11 in February. He started junior high this year and he has had a very hard time. A lot has happened - there was no communicating between the 4th and 5th grade teachers b4 school started and the 4th grade teacher passed away in October .. My son was suspended 1 day and everyday is a laundry list of behavior issues. I spoke with the pediatitrison yesterday and she told me to think about adderall or ritalin. She said there have been studies ( that she has done also ) that in kids with DS it shows a night and day difference in behavior during puberty. Does anyone have any 1st hand knowledge of this ? I really hate the idea of " medicating " him but also want him to get the most out of school that he can. thanks **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 010> com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I would make sure that there is a positive behavior support program in place... as Judi mentioned. ALL children go through changes during puberty, I personally have not heard of putting a child with or without DS on stimulants during puberty, but I'm not a medical professional. I would be doing a lot of reading about it if I were going to consider it. My choice would be to get them going on an ABC chart..... writing down the incidents in ABC order with help show what the focus needs to be. I would also make sure that they are sending home a list of POSITIVE things that he is doing? If they don't, I would bluntly write a note and say... please tell me areas that is successful in. Please document these also. You may just have to teach THEM to focus on his successes and not on what he is doing wrong... go back to the basics. Just my opinion.. and we all know how I push the positive, positive, positive! LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Um, just a thought - is the behaviour related to him trying to tell you he is older and can do more than you think he is capable of? Sometimes our kids get very frustrated with us, the overprotective adult who doesn't know when to let go - perhaps try and figure out the why first. Also, schools can be a big pain as well, expecting the disabled student to be 100% text book perfect all the time - but make allowances for others as kids will be kids. I have never been in a position regarding the need for drugs for my kids, thus will refrain to comment on that. Keep smiling Jan, mother of Trent 24yo w/Ds from the LandDownUnder From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Dagmar Haes Sent: Thursday, 11 December 2008 5:23 PM and FRANK; little1sdaycare@...; Subject: AW: Does any one have any comments? Good or bad? Mmmh, here is just my comment. Changes during puperty happen with all kids. With or without DS. And believe me, I know what I'm talking about. (11, DS) starts to do those " Alpha-Dog " -things. He wants to be the master of all and he starts activities he never ever done before. At night he cannot sleep (or he do not want to sleep) and wakes up me and his sisters, too. He is often very agressive and believe me he wasn't agressive ever! Before medicate him with Ritalin I would try every other possibility. But if there would be no other way to keep him in school, I think I would do it! Good luck! Greetings from a snow-white winter-wonder-land in the very south of Germany Dagmar, wife to Bernd, mom to Magdalena 15, Franziska 13, and DS 11 -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: <mailto:%40> [mailto: <mailto:%40> ]Im Auftrag von and FRANK Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Dezember 2008 06:42 An: little1sdaycare@... <mailto:little1sdaycare%40aol.com> ; <mailto:%40> Betreff: Re: Does any one have any comments? Good or bad? I would make sure that there is a positive behavior support program in place... as Judi mentioned. ALL children go through changes during puberty, I personally have not heard of putting a child with or without DS on stimulants during puberty, but I'm not a medical professional. I would be doing a lot of reading about it if I were going to consider it. My choice would be to get them going on an ABC chart..... writing down the incidents in ABC order with help show what the focus needs to be. I would also make sure that they are sending home a list of POSITIVE things that he is doing? If they don't, I would bluntly write a note and say... please tell me areas that is successful in. Please document these also. You may just have to teach THEM to focus on his successes and not on what he is doing wrong... go back to the basics. Just my opinion.. and we all know how I push the positive, positive, positive! LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Nic has been medicated for ADHD since first grade. He is 11 now will be 12 3/1. We have seen much improvement in his behavior. On weekends we usually don't medicate unless we are attending a social event where his behavior needs to be under control. We tried Stattera (a non-stimulant) and it made him extremely violent. I know of 2 other children who had the same reaction to Stattera(2 others were non-DS) So if you do decide to medicate I would not try that. In addition, Strattera has to be built up in the system...therefore when you stop it, the child must be weaned off which only prolonged the negative behaviors. Nic is on dextroamphetimine (a stim like Ritalin, but not Ritalin.) Di Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven. Luke 6:37 Does any one have any comments? Good or bad? > > > > My son is 10 and will be 11 in February. He started junior high this year > and he has had a very hard time. > A lot has happened - there was no communicating between the 4th and 5th > grade teachers b4 school started and the 4th grade teacher passed away in > October > . My son was suspended 1 day and everyday is a laundry list of behavior > issues. > > I spoke with the pediatitrison yesterday and she told me to think about > adderall or ritalin. She said there have been studies ( that she has done > also ) > that in kids with DS it shows a night and day difference in behavior > during > puberty. Does anyone have any 1st hand knowledge of this ? I really hate > the idea of " medicating " him but also want him to get the most out of > school > that he can. > > thanks > > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol. > <http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 > 010> com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 OH, almost forgot....Nic has had heart surgery and his cardiologist said it was ok to use. He had a complete av canal defect, secendum asd, common valve and pda repair...........all at 11 weeks old Di Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven. Luke 6:37 Does any one have any comments? Good or bad? > > > > My son is 10 and will be 11 in February. He started junior high this year > and he has had a very hard time. > A lot has happened - there was no communicating between the 4th and 5th > grade teachers b4 school started and the 4th grade teacher passed away in > October > . My son was suspended 1 day and everyday is a laundry list of behavior > issues. > > I spoke with the pediatitrison yesterday and she told me to think about > adderall or ritalin. She said there have been studies ( that she has done > also ) > that in kids with DS it shows a night and day difference in behavior > during > puberty. Does anyone have any 1st hand knowledge of this ? I really hate > the idea of " medicating " him but also want him to get the most out of > school > that he can. > > thanks > > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol. > <http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 > 010> com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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